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Re: Share Your V-CUBES Experience

Post by 3stan08 on Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:54 pm

**Update

Just wanna THANK the_joker for the tips
...i followed your advises and as of today, I can solve the V7 with lesser time. I downloaded vids (including yours) to see the techniques. From there I saw my problem in solving big cubes...the edge solving part.
What I am doing in the past was to solve the edge one by one (sets)...but after watching several vids, i noticed that most of you speedBIGcubers solve the edges like "at-once" with disregard to centers...w/c later on will be fixed.
Man it took me long to noticed this technique......this is one of the effect of not attending Cubemeets. he he he..
My fastest time in solving V7 is 22min..I am practicing more to lessen the time.
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So once again, THANKS A LOT SIR ALLAN...it was you who gave me the idea on the edge solving part.

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Re: Share Your V-CUBES Experience

Post by TheJoker on Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:34 pm

the edge method was Frank Morris method... we called it GARBAGE METHOD... kasi salpak ka lang ng salpak eh...

another variant is Free Slice... 85% Frank Morris with additional set-up... this is fast if you recognition and look ahead is good...

another edge method is MULTI-REDUCTION... solve the 3 inner edge... then kung buo na lahat solve it like 5x5x5 edges...

eto lang alam kong method na ginagamit ko... pero malimit kong gamitin ang FRANK MORRIS... pagnakakita lang ako ng FREE SLICE minsan ginagamit ko...

pero pag dating sa last 4 edges... isang glance lang... then decide which to use... pero mabilis ang MULTI-REDUCTION sa last 4 edges... i recommend learning and practicing it...

okay... keep on V7 cubing... hehehehehehhe... Very Happy:D:D:D:D

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Re: Share Your V-CUBES Experience

Post by paololzki on Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:08 pm

TheJoker wrote:the edge method was Frank Morris method... we called it GARBAGE METHOD... kasi salpak ka lang ng salpak eh...

another variant is Free Slice... 85% Frank Morris with additional set-up... this is fast if you recognition and look ahead is good...

another edge method is MULTI-REDUCTION... solve the 3 inner edge... then kung buo na lahat solve it like 5x5x5 edges...

eto lang alam kong method na ginagamit ko... pero malimit kong gamitin ang FRANK MORRIS... pagnakakita lang ako ng FREE SLICE minsan ginagamit ko...

pero pag dating sa last 4 edges... isang glance lang... then decide which to use... pero mabilis ang MULTI-REDUCTION sa last 4 edges... i recommend learning and practicing it...

okay... keep on V7 cubing... hehehehehehhe... Very Happy:D:D:D:D


paturo ng last 4 edges ha. multi-reduction. thanks thanks

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Re: Share Your V-CUBES Experience

Post by SkibuRebuc on Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:48 pm

mga sirs,
v7 ko madalas magpop yung isa sa center piece. at lagi lockup.
bakit kaya? any tip?
as a beginner malaking tulong sakin video ni arnaud van galen:

5x5x5 edge-pairing 2 edges at a time (beginner)


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Re: Share Your V-CUBES Experience

Post by TheJoker on Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:02 pm

yup... we call it AVG... from the inventor himself...

our jonathan papa "unscarred" uses that method from the MASTER NEIL ORTEGA... and di sa nagmamayabang i also learned that... kaso bano me sa look ahead at recognition... that is why i stayed with frank morris method and free slice method...

malakas din talaga magpop ang v7... konting maling ikot lang tilapon agad yung center-corner piece... pero with practice you can avoided that... how you grip the cube is one good solution for avoiding v7 to pop...

hope i help... thanks a lot... hehehehehhehe... Very Happy:D:D:D:D

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Re: Share Your V-CUBES Experience

Post by SkibuRebuc on Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:34 am

thanks @TheJoker
the best ka talaga!

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Re: Share Your V-CUBES Experience

Post by Brian Nicole Uy on Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:07 pm

I got a White V-Cube 5x5x5 from Venom, today(November 23,2008).
The first time I opened it, the stickers were sticky, probably because of the lubricant that came with the package.
It was rough at first, so i thought of disassembling it then assemble while lubricating it when I get home.
I finished doing it, it was still rough, not as smooth as my eastsheen.

But it really cuts corners sooooooooooo well. I notice that it hardly pops because every pieces in the 5x5x5 supports every other pieces, like "anchorage". It only pops when the alignment of the layers is too much misaligned. If it is misaligned, two things can happen, either one of the pieces move out of the alignment then making the 5x5 immovable, or only ONE piece will pop.

i will put more updates about my experience.

One question: Did you guys also experience the V-cube to be rough at first?
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Re: Share Your V-CUBES Experience

Post by shiner on Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:39 pm

[quote=\"Brian Nicole Uy\"]
One question: Did you guys also experience the V-cube to be rough at first?
thanks [/quote]

YES. the 1st time my Friend used his V5 and I Smile . it was quite rough. but after a few turns. it was not that rough nah.

just lube it with silicone. and let it dry for a night. Smile although di xah magkakaroon ng much difference. pero, may pagbabago padin ng konti. Smile

PS: mabigat padin!* Smile Smile Smile


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Re: Share Your V-CUBES Experience

Post by Brian Nicole Uy on Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:40 pm

How long did it took you to play after it became smooth? A week?

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Re: Share Your V-CUBES Experience

Post by shiner on Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:49 pm

NO. not even a day. hours lang ata un. tas Lube pagkagabi. Smile ng silicone. **just dont unscrew it. rivets din naman ung centers. just look for the tips of Erik sa youtube. Smile basta sa wing side mo tatangalan ng piece.

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Re: Share Your V-CUBES Experience

Post by Brian Nicole Uy on Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:51 pm

What if I unscrew those Rivets? Nothing is going to go wrong right?

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Re: Share Your V-CUBES Experience

Post by shiner on Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:57 pm

di naman un. naa-unscrew. bastat sa wing side ka lang magtanggal ng piece. Smile tas lube.

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Re: Share Your V-CUBES Experience

Post by TheJoker on Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:38 pm

guys... kaya konti lang nakikita nyong improvement pag nilube nyo yun V5 nyo is because the silicone oil is still there...

here is a major TIP... upon opening the box for the first time... use it several times... solve lang kayo mga 5 solve okay na...

then disassemble the V5... then clean it with a clean cotton cloth... para masipsip nya ng maayos yung silicone oil...

then assemble it back... tapos solve it again several times... 5 solve is okay...

then spray it with SILICONE SPRAY... CYCLO... konti lang on different side... then solve it again several times to distribute evenly the LUBE inside...

tapos ayun na... dudulas na lang siya on time...

if you forgot to clean the CUBE first... it is now hard to do it... although possible pa syang dumulas talaga...

kay EMZ hunter357... super smooth ng cube nya... V5... nya para kang nag 3x3x3 cube lang...

hope i help... hehehehehhehe... Very Happy:D:D:D:D

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Re: Share Your V-CUBES Experience

Post by shiner on Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:32 am

The Joker. THANK YOU!! ^_^ ehehe. ill do this as soon as I have my V5 nah. Smile Smile Smile

`i-she`share ko to sa kaibigan kong may V5. Smile Smile

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Re: Share Your V-CUBES Experience

Post by Brian Nicole Uy on Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:49 pm

I'm beating my PB now, even though I haven't did what "The Joker" told us to do. I'm going to do that later... Thanks "The Joker".

I noticed that having springs in Eastsheens or Rubik's is not really good because each of the pieces of the eastsheens and rubik's are not well anchored deeply inside unlike the V-Cube 5x5x5. That's why the V-Cube 5x5x5 doesn't pop, but the problem with V-Cube 5x5x5, if you misalign too much, and force to turn it, some of the pieces will go off a little and making the whole V-Cube 5x5x5 immovable, but this can be simply fixed by returning the piece that moved and undo the move.

I also notice when the V-Cube 5x5x5 pops, always only one piece pops. Anyway, the popping is so rare. I already made around 20 fast solves, and it only popped two times. And the piece that always pops only one of the 24 outer edge wings, which is very easy to put back.

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