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PostSubject: math and cubing... bestfriends?!   Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:36 pm
ayon sa aking pag-aaral sa unibersidad ng aking kwarto...

i mean, tunay ba na kapag magaling magsolve ng cube, magaling sa math?
especially yung mga nagsosolve ng hindi nagpapaturo o nagreresearch...

wala lang, pansin ko lang...
hehe...

lahat kasi ng kakilala ko na nagrurubiks, may dunong(ang lalim) sa math e,,,
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PostSubject: Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!   Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:31 pm
i think so. i think (just my opinion) that the same parts of the brain are being used for math and speedcubing. kasi, puro analysis (f2l slow solving) ang kailangan mo para mag-improve. kailangan mo din ng i-program sa utak mo ang mga algorithms as if bahagi na siya ng system mo. the same thing with math, may mga formula na sobrang basic na dapat sa iyo that you just have to use them upon your disposal when soving really difficult math problems. (unlike studying language and literature which uses a totally different part of the brain - puro reasoning naman ang gamit mo dito).
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PostSubject: Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!   Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:00 pm
hindi magaling sa math ang marunong mag-cube since there are tutorials ngayon available sa internet, one has the option not to solve the cube in a mathematical manner..

but in rephrasing the question:

magaling ba sa math ang kayang mag-paliwanag kung paano nag-wowork ang rubik's cube using group theory (w/o any reference sa internet)?

my answer is, "he may be a mathematician tulad ni benjo".. haha
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LET:
>>cxcxc be a Rubik's Cube
>>U be the set of all tangible Rubik's Cubes,
>>i.e., U={cxcxc | c is an integer and lies in the interval [2,11]}
>>C be the set of my cubes on hand
>>S={2, 3, 4, 5}
MY CUBES ON HAND CAN BE THE DESCRIBED BY THE SET C where...
>>C={nxnxn element of set U | n is an element of S}

UPD. MATH MAJOR. PERIOD.
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PostSubject: Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!   Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:51 pm
Nope. Walang kinalaman ang Algs sa Log. That's what most people think.
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PostSubject: Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!   Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:11 pm
marc_rendl wrote:
hindi magaling sa math ang marunong mag-cube since there are tutorials ngayon available sa internet, one has the option not to solve the cube in a mathematical manner..

but in rephrasing the question:

magaling ba sa math ang kayang mag-paliwanag kung paano nag-wowork ang rubik's cube using group theory (w/o any reference sa internet)?

my answer is, "he may be a mathematician tulad ni benjo".. haha


kaya nga po sabi ko,

Hwoarang wrote:
especially yung mga nagsosolve ng hindi nagpapaturo o nagreresearch...


wahehe..
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PostSubject: Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!   Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:22 pm
hmmmm...seguro, usually in our class those who speedcube are the ones having high grades in our math class.. that's my observation..
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PostSubject: Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!   Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:07 pm
Simple answer: no. No need to expound this. Kahit sinong magaling mag-memo, research, or what-have-you eh kayang maging magaling sa cube.

Although yung mga pinakamalulupit sa cubing world, mathematicians talaga, tulad nina Pochmann, Stern, Garron, and Bruchem.
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PostSubject: Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!   Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:38 am
dipende sa tau kung saan sya seryoso ahahaha
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PostSubject: Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!   Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:42 pm
Jome wrote:
Although yung mga pinakamalulupit sa cubing world, mathematicians talaga, tulad nina Pochmann, Stern, Garron, and Bruchem.


idagdag ko dito si macky. sumasali siya sa mga math olympiads.
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PostSubject: Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!   Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:16 pm
Hwoarang wrote:
marc_rendl wrote:
hindi magaling sa math ang marunong mag-cube since there are tutorials ngayon available sa internet, one has the option not to solve the cube in a mathematical manner..

but in rephrasing the question:

magaling ba sa math ang kayang mag-paliwanag kung paano nag-wowork ang rubik's cube using group theory (w/o any reference sa internet)?

my answer is, "he may be a mathematician tulad ni benjo".. haha


kaya nga po sabi ko,

Hwoarang wrote:
especially yung mga nagsosolve ng hindi nagpapaturo o nagreresearch...


wahehe..
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hindi kita kinonkontra.. pero kinokorek lang kita sa grammar...

"especially..." does not mean your limiting the question sa "mga nagsosolve ng hindi nagpapaturo o nagreresearch..."

so ibig sabihin, hindi mo parin tinanggal sa saklaw ng tanong yung mga nagresearch.. haha.. sana sinabi mo "excluding people who used other sources to solve the cube"..

ok? hehe
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LET:
>>cxcxc be a Rubik's Cube
>>U be the set of all tangible Rubik's Cubes,
>>i.e., U={cxcxc | c is an integer and lies in the interval [2,11]}
>>C be the set of my cubes on hand
>>S={2, 3, 4, 5}
MY CUBES ON HAND CAN BE THE DESCRIBED BY THE SET C where...
>>C={nxnxn element of set U | n is an element of S}

UPD. MATH MAJOR. PERIOD.
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PostSubject: Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!   Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:44 am
you can not say na mathematician agad eh.

memorizing alg's is not being good in math

pero may mga taong ganun talga

tulad nung sinabi ni kuya jome

cla pochmann, bruchem are really good in mathematics

aq i'm not good in math

marunong lang.xe kung magaling aq sa math

eh d sana sisiw lang saken engineering sa BSU

i'm not good in that but i can say na may ibabatbat aq

kung PHYSICS lang ang paguusapan

tingin q nga ndi sa math magagaling ang cubers eh

tingin q sa PHYSICS

tingin q lang

may pagkakatulad xe eh.

mahirap iexplain

so think on why did i say na may pagkakatulad.
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PostSubject: Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!   Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:43 pm
marc_rendl wrote:

hindi kita kinonkontra.. pero kinokorek lang kita sa grammar...

"especially..." does not mean your limiting the question sa "mga nagsosolve ng hindi nagpapaturo o nagreresearch..."

so ibig sabihin, hindi mo parin tinanggal sa saklaw ng tanong yung mga nagresearch.. haha.. sana sinabi mo "excluding people who used other sources to solve the cube"..

ok? hehe


sino ba maysabing
ineexclude ko ang nagpapaturo?

kasi PWEDENG MAGPATURO ANG MAGALING SA MATH...

haha..
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nagets ko naman sinasabi mo..
yups.. maybe tama ka nga

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PostSubject: Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!   Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:07 pm
ewan ko lang.. hmm.. depende kung pano mo isosolve ang isang cube..

kung mgaling ka talga sa math (logic part and reasoning) makakgawa ka ng algo mo..

on the other hand kung malakas ka mag memorize kaya kya mo rin isolve ang cube kahit walang logic or reasoning (oo meron kahit konti) .. kasi may mga cubers na base lang sa algo, di nila tinitingnan kung papaano gumagalw ang mga cubies.. hehehe..

@tungkel
cubing = physics ? hahahaha.. pwde the change of cubies position over the change of time.. hahaha..

sakin math at physics ang mag best friend.. math proves physics.. hehehe.. example newton's thermodynamics can be prove prove by using linear algbra concept..

hehehe.. peace..
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PostSubject: Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!   Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:12 pm
Ah di ako pwede
79 average ko sa math last year
partida na walang 2nd and 3rd grading period
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PostSubject: Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!   Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:32 pm
testing101 wrote:
ewan ko lang.. hmm.. depende kung pano mo isosolve ang isang cube..

kung mgaling ka talga sa math (logic part and reasoning) makakgawa ka ng algo mo..

on the other hand kung malakas ka mag memorize kaya kya mo rin isolve ang cube kahit walang logic or reasoning (oo meron kahit konti) .. kasi may mga cubers na base lang sa algo, di nila tinitingnan kung papaano gumagalw ang mga cubies.. hehehe..

@tungkel
cubing = physics ? hahahaha.. pwde the change of cubies position over the change of time.. hahaha..

sakin math at physics ang mag best friend.. math proves physics.. hehehe.. example newton's thermodynamics can be prove prove by using linear algbra concept..

hehehe.. peace..



tama ka dun physics and math

physics use mathematics for every problem you encouter

they are the ones that really are related to each other
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