Subject: Re: For the cubers who solve the cube in 20-25 seconds Wed May 07, 2008 10:56 pm
add ko lang tong isa pang f2l slow solving video from Sinpei Araki of japan, currently ranked 32nd with the average of 13.59secs (as of this writing). again, this video is "prescribed*" for sub-25 cubers only (sorry, for sub-35cubers, practice the normal cross and the 41 basic corner-edge pairing algs first. if you get the hang of it and you managed to achieve sub-25, you can start doing slow solves and f2l shortcuts on your own, and you will see that it will be easy to achieve sub-20)
warning: japanese color scheme toh...
disclaimer: i meant "prescribed," not necessarily required/absolute _________________ hell yeah! i'm really bald! one day, i just woke up and decided to shave my head. and it beats the sh*t out of me.
kingpsyzor 5x5x5
Age : 20 Joined : 21 Jan 2008 Posts : 725 Location : sampaloc ,manila (espana)
Subject: Re: For the cubers who solve the cube in 20-25 seconds Wed May 07, 2008 11:06 pm
anu ba dapat training pra bumaba ng sub30?... 3 weeks na kc ako sub30 at hnd ko alam kung pano bumaba ng sub25... slow solve lng din ba dpat???
pajodaep 5x5x5
Age : 23 Joined : 16 Jul 2007 Posts : 779
Subject: Re: For the cubers who solve the cube in 20-25 seconds Wed May 07, 2008 11:14 pm
kingpsyzor wrote:
anu ba dapat training pra bumaba ng sub30?... 3 weeks na kc ako sub30 at hnd ko alam kung pano bumaba ng sub25... slow solve lng din ba dpat???
hmm... practice lang. as much as possible, dapat masaulo mo muna lahat ng PLL, OLL, corner-edge pairing algs. try to practice the algs individually para makabisado mo talaga. then, for the f2l, "slow down and look ahead" gaya ng sabi ni macky. pero, gamitin mo muna yung mga basic algs sa mga cubing site, and if you can, try to execute the f2l algs from all angles (intuitively or cubeloop f2l all symmetryalgs). pag sub-25 ka na, you can try slow solves with f2l shortcuts. you're slow-solving while looking for the shortest way possible when doing the f2l. madaming tricks to which you can discover on your own or in cubeloop.com advanced f2l algs. halimbawa, you don't have to set-up the f2l anymore kasi minsan yung position ng pairs, nasa middle na pala ng isang algorithm, so you don't have to set-up then undo the set-up. mga ganung tricks. and it's necessary na at least sub-25 to be able to do that. basta, practice lang talaga ng practice... _________________ hell yeah! i'm really bald! one day, i just woke up and decided to shave my head. and it beats the sh*t out of me.
kingpsyzor 5x5x5
Age : 20 Joined : 21 Jan 2008 Posts : 725 Location : sampaloc ,manila (espana)
Subject: Re: For the cubers who solve the cube in 20-25 seconds Wed May 07, 2008 11:31 pm
ahh okie okie ngets ko ung point... ^^ intuitive lng kc f2l ko eh... cguro mga 1 week ang magpraktis ng f2l.. @_@
omar 3x3x3
Age : 20 Joined : 05 Dec 2007 Posts : 208 Location : Meycauayan, Bulacan
Subject: Re: For the cubers who solve the cube in 20-25 seconds Thu May 08, 2008 2:28 pm
cool, galing after a day... mas tumino na slow solves ko.. 22s, kaso naiilang ako bilisan ung LL ko. haha.. _________________ "Don't be a fool, follow the rules." - Mrs. Puff
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Jome 3x3x3
Age : 20 Joined : 25 Nov 2007 Posts : 398 Location : Malate, Manila
Subject: Re: For the cubers who solve the cube in 20-25 seconds Thu May 08, 2008 5:16 pm
Ganitong ganitong ganito ang sinanay kong style. So far, it's been fruitful. Kaunting multi-slot and less cube rotations, I average a good 12s on the F2L part when doing it slowly. Ang problem lang dito, nakakainis pakawalan yung speed at the LL. Pwede kang madala nung hang ng kabagalan ng F2L. _________________ 3x3x3 SS: 12.79s, 12.12 (PLL skip) 3x3x3 PB ave.: of 10, 18.37s; of 5, 17.62s Official WCA Record
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pajodaep 5x5x5
Age : 23 Joined : 16 Jul 2007 Posts : 779
Subject: Re: For the cubers who solve the cube in 20-25 seconds Thu May 08, 2008 5:19 pm
Jome wrote:
Ganitong ganitong ganito ang sinanay kong style. So far, it's been fruitful. Kaunting multi-slot and less cube rotations, I average a good 12s on the F2L part when doing it slowly. Ang problem lang dito, nakakainis pakawalan yung speed at the LL. Pwede kang madala nung hang ng kabagalan ng F2L.
yeah, naaaddict na din ako sa ganitong style. it's ironic, and i never imagined bibilis ako dahil sa slow solving. i just got another sub-17 average today after practicing slow solving with metronome for 4 straight hours. _________________ hell yeah! i'm really bald! one day, i just woke up and decided to shave my head. and it beats the sh*t out of me.
Jome 3x3x3
Age : 20 Joined : 25 Nov 2007 Posts : 398 Location : Malate, Manila
Subject: Re: For the cubers who solve the cube in 20-25 seconds Thu May 08, 2008 5:32 pm
My sister (and camerawoman) always berates me dahil mukha raw akong siraulo while solving. I stretch my neck side to side and do it, in her words, in a relaxed manner and then suddenly execute the LL like a speed devil. Haha.
I haven't used a metronome yet for long practice sessions. It's too noisy at home to even hear the ticking, but I've used it some time ago the see how much pacing I need. So far, without cross problems, I average a good 3-4 turns per second, which is rather consistent with the total time and number of moves of my F2L (36-48 moves).
The only problem I see with this approach is I tend to think of a lot of variations (Winter, edge preserve, edge-corner set-up, etc.), kaya minsan nagkakagulo. When I use the normal approach, ie. locate and execute algo, I don't feel satisfied at all.
Meh. Maybe it's just the French style of speedcubing that really inspires me. Slow, easy 14s. That's the ultimate goal before I do neck-breaking solves (Yu's 8.72s FTW, second or third pair pa lang ako nun, haha). _________________ 3x3x3 SS: 12.79s, 12.12 (PLL skip) 3x3x3 PB ave.: of 10, 18.37s; of 5, 17.62s Official WCA Record
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pajodaep 5x5x5
Age : 23 Joined : 16 Jul 2007 Posts : 779
Subject: Re: For the cubers who solve the cube in 20-25 seconds Thu May 08, 2008 5:34 pm
yeah, metronome is only advisable for cubers who can't control their pace (like me). madalas kasi, magsisimula ako ng slow solves, tapos, biglang di ko makontrol at bibilis ulit ako. They say you can't depend on the metronome all the time. eventually, you have to let go and depend on your own pace. but for starters, metronome is really good. _________________ hell yeah! i'm really bald! one day, i just woke up and decided to shave my head. and it beats the sh*t out of me.
jonfrix 3x3x3
Age : 17 Joined : 09 Jan 2008 Posts : 290
Subject: Re: For the cubers who solve the cube in 20-25 seconds Thu May 08, 2008 7:10 pm
bkt sa mga sub 15 or like ken parang kahit huminto sila i mean nawalan nang look ahead parang humihinto ung oras nila? ano un naka minimize tlga ung mga moves?
pajodaep 5x5x5
Age : 23 Joined : 16 Jul 2007 Posts : 779
Subject: Re: For the cubers who solve the cube in 20-25 seconds Thu May 08, 2008 10:22 pm
jonfrix wrote:
bkt sa mga sub 15 or like ken parang kahit huminto sila i mean nawalan nang look ahead parang humihinto ung oras nila? ano un naka minimize tlga ung mga moves?
di ko magets to. what do you mean? paelaborate po. _________________ hell yeah! i'm really bald! one day, i just woke up and decided to shave my head. and it beats the sh*t out of me.
Syalang 5x5x5
Age : 16 Joined : 06 Apr 2008 Posts : 765
Subject: Re: For the cubers who solve the cube in 20-25 seconds Thu May 08, 2008 10:25 pm
guys! anong drills gagawin para makapagpractise sa look ahead at recognition? hirap talaga
MrShiva 3x3x3
Age : 18 Joined : 26 Feb 2008 Posts : 314 Location : *TALIM ISLAND*BINANGONAN,(^.^)SUB45 EVER
Subject: Re: For the cubers who solve the cube in 20-25 seconds Fri May 09, 2008 6:04 pm
100/100 totoo.... y? ganyan gamit ko eh. and... may isa pang techniques.... after mo ma master un slow turning hehehe
trane2122 3x3x3
Age : 85 Joined : 08 Mar 2008 Posts : 309
Subject: Re: For the cubers who solve the cube in 20-25 seconds Sat May 10, 2008 9:09 am
hi... average ko is 36sec. then tinry ko sya since nung pinost ko siya dito, 4 days ago i think. yung sa F2L is ayos naman yung nagagawa ko kasi sobrang look ahead ang ginagawa ko pero mejo hirap pa din kasi color neutral ako. hehe. pero nung ginagawa ko sya is napansin ko na yung pause ko is na minimize. yun nga lang, like jome said. nakakainis pakawalan yung speed sa LL kasi madadala ka dun sa pag slow turn. pero with that sub 35 na ako and best time ko is 21sec. happy cubing^^, _________________
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omar 3x3x3
Age : 20 Joined : 05 Dec 2007 Posts : 208 Location : Meycauayan, Bulacan
Subject: Re: For the cubers who solve the cube in 20-25 seconds Sat May 10, 2008 6:09 pm
haha, nakakatuwa talaga tong training nato, ung pinsan ko na stuck sa sub35, kagabi pinag slow solve, plus metronome, 80bpm. After mga siguro 1hr testing namin, akalain niyo instant 24s solve, tapos ung race namin kanina... nakaka 21s solve siya.. haha, astig _________________ "Don't be a fool, follow the rules." - Mrs. Puff
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For the cubers who solve the cube in 20-25 seconds
Subject: Re: For the cubers who solve the cube in 20-25 seconds 
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