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Post by pajodaep on Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:17 am

by the way, there's a link on Nakajima's 106 advanced f2l cases at the bottom of this post. they're incredibly good! i wonder why i discovered it only 2 days ago. i should really read speedsolving.com forum more often.

so, here it goes:

I - Current Average 1:30 or do not know how to solve
Goal Average: 1:00-1:19
Use Leyan’s Beginners Method (http://www.stanford.edu/%7Eleyanlo/cube_solution.pdf), or Badmephisto's Youtube Video Tutorial. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ofZFUgaxlTQ&feature=PlayList&p=4A19F1D174B975BD&index=4)
You could also achieve sub-1 min with these methods
If you are still stuck, follow these tips:
-Try to reduce Pauses.
-Sand (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPC17CMPDTU), Break in (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xQ0ywP-bbU), and Lubricate Your Cube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0rjg7ckq-0) (In that order).
-Decrease Last layer times.
-Use Finger Tricks
-Practice!!!
You can decrease Last Layer times by improving your recognition for each case.
-Make sure you solve the cross on the bottom. It will help you later. For now, try to get a cross in an average of less than 10 seconds on the Bottom of the cube. Here are some links which will help you:
http://www.cubefreak.net/cross.html
http://www.cubestation.co.uk/cs2/index.php?page=3x3x3/cfop/cross/cross
Note: You can also do inserting from different angles See Macky's take: http://cubefreak.net/easy_fast.html

-Use a timer to see your progression : www.cubetimer.com (http://www.cubetimer.com/) if you want the timers like the "pros" use check bottom of post.
Estimation Time: 3 Weeks

II - Current Average 1:00-1:19
Goal Average: 40 - 50 seconds
Once you acheive these times;
-I strongly suggest you learn 4 look last layer. (Links to where to learn them will be at the bottom of this post.)
-DO NOT learn F2L yet.
Edge Orientation - 2 algorithms
Corner Orientation - 7 algorithms
Edge Permutation - 4 algorithms - Ua, Ub, Zb, H
Corner Permutation - 3 Algorithms Aa, Ab, E
Estimation Time: 3 weeks - 1.5 months

III - Current Average: 40-55 seconds
Goal Average: 30-40 seconds
-Now learn intuitive First Two Layers (http://youtube.com/watch?v=k-xbcAMfWwM&feature=PlayList&p=0B7E0E5922B76D76&index=7) (F2L).
-Your times will temporarily get worse, but after a few days of practicing, they will become better greatly!
-Practice your F2L, and never give up!
-If you even think about giving up just take a break and come back to watch the video again. Theres are other F2l tutorials and will be listed on bottom.
Estimation Time: 2 Weeks

IV - Current Average:30-40 seconds
Goal Average:20-30 seconds
-Now, learn all the PLLs - 21 Algorithms (Links where to learn them will be at the bottom of this post)
Estimation Time: 2-3 Months

V - Current Average: 20-30 seconds
Goal Average: Sub 20 seconds
-Work on your F2L, maybe learn the algorithms. (Links for F2L algorithms at the bottom of this post)
-Master all your PLLs and OLLs that you know. Meaning optimize it to your maximum speed, try to use the triggers, and try to get all of them under 3 seconds.
-Get your cross sub 5 seconds consistently(make sure you have cross on bottom)
-Possibly get a new cube(DIY) if your still using a SLOW Rubik's brand cube.
Estimation Time: 3-4 Months

VI - Current Average: Sub 20 Seconds
Goal Average: 15 Seconds or less
-Master your F2L, try to get it down to sub 12 seconds average
-Get your cross to sub 2 seconds average
-Learn the rest of the OLLs! - 57 algorithms (Note that you should COMPLETELY master everything else before learning these, as they will only help you by about 2 seconds or less)
-To learn Oll's easier look at Badmephisto's video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=I1Lb-eFXzro)
Estimation Time: 3+ months

Alg list:

F2L Algorithms:
http://www.cubestation.co.uk/cs2/index.php?page=3x3x3/cfop/f2l/f2l
http://www.cubewhiz.com/f2l.html
http://www.cubefreak.net/F2L.html
http://solvethecube.co.uk/

OLL Algorithms: http://www.speedsolving.com/showthread.php?t=766
2 Look OLL for Corner Orientation are cases 21-27.
http://cubewhiz.com/ollprint.html
2 Look Oll are cases 4-10

PLL Algorithms: http://www.speedsolving.com/showthread.php?t=708
Corner Permutation are the Aa, Ab, and E permutation algorithms.
Edge Permutation are the Ua, Ub, H, and Zb permutation algorithms.
http://cubewhiz.com/pllprint.html

Tutorials:
Tyson Mao Layer by Layer http://www.rubiks.com/Academy/Tyson%20Video.aspx
Leyan Lo Layer by Layer http://www.stanford.edu/%7Eleyanlo/cube_solution.pdf
Dan Brown Layer by layer http://youtube.com/watch?v=HsQIoPyfQzM
Bob Burton Layer by layer http://www.monkeysee.com/play/1113-solve-a-rubiks-cube

- pjk

Remarks: How can i get as fast as Nakajima?

Speed up your f2l. Nakajima has crazy f2l. If you want to study advanced f2l, forget cubeloop! almost half of the algs there are inefficient and are difficult to recognize. Nakajima's 106 advanced f2l cases are way better! here's the link:

http://www.cubingtechniques.com/cubing/algorithmsbank/f2l/

It's in japanese though, so you might not understand the explanations but the algorithms are right there for your disposal. Try also Jason Baum's cubing page. It contains the best OLL and PLL algs (i think, they're even better than macky's or vandenbergh's) for ambidextrous cubers.
hell yeah! i'm really bald! one day, i just woke up and decided to shave my head. and it beats the sh*t out of me.


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Re: Training tips for cubers with stuck averages (credit: pjk)

Post by AnotherCuber on Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:38 am

ooohh...
nice compilation...
hirap lang intindihin yung sa site ni nakajima
good job
thanks...

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Re: Training tips for cubers with stuck averages (credit: pjk)

Post by pajodaep on Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:43 am

AnotherCuber wrote:ooohh...
nice compilation...
hirap lang intindihin yung sa site ni nakajima
good job
thanks...


you don't need to read the explanations naman. andun na naman yung algs eh. yesterday, i looked over all those algs. nagulat ako sa mga shortcuts na ginagamit ni nakajima. sobrang ganda mga finger tricks.
hell yeah! i'm really bald! one day, i just woke up and decided to shave my head. and it beats the sh*t out of me.

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Re: Training tips for cubers with stuck averages (credit: pjk)

Post by AnotherCuber on Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:45 am

umabot na ako nang sub 40 ave... hindi ko pa alam pano basahin lahat ng notations... yung may small letters... hehe XD

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Re: Training tips for cubers with stuck averages (credit: pjk)

Post by pmarcelino5 on Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:45 am

Rw?
MEANING?

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Post by xion06 on Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:42 pm

Rw = pihitin mo ung right ksama ung middle gets?
Give me 4 weeks to sub 20
dbz dragon ball z

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Post by ert_anjo on Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:55 pm

ung site ni nkaji nde mbasa.,.,

meron din sa cubestation.com ata un.,

my profile kz c nakaji dun ehh.,

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Post by ynajatrice on Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:37 pm

aral tayo ng japanese!!!

hahaha

nice one kuya pajo

kukumpletuhin ko pa lang yung f2l algs ko by this year

tapos OLL next year (estudyante po ako, si kuya pajo tapos na, hehehe)

praktisin na yang mga algs na yan!!!

hehehe

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Post by pangungusap on Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:59 pm

pmarcelino5 wrote:Rw?
MEANING?


same as r

edit: use google language tools to translate cubingtechniques...
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Post by bonoan1027 on Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:28 pm

THANKS KUYA PAJO! I think I can cut my average down greatly with this

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Post by luigiyotoko on Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:18 pm

what happens if i started f2l when i was 1 minute Sad(

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Post by MrShiva on Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:40 pm

PAJO!!!!

THANK YOU PO Smile
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im 4 ever sub 45 im 4 ever sub 45

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Post by ert_anjo on Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:09 pm

luigiyotoko wrote:what happens if i started f2l when i was 1 minute Sad(


magiging sub30 or masmbaba pa dun.,

nasa sau rin kz kung masipag ka mgmemo.,

ako kz mbagal magmemo.,

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Post by DevilMayCry on Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:22 pm

which should be first

memorize all pll and oll then f2l or the other way around?

pwede 2 look oll then complete pll?

ganun style ni ryan patricio eh


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Post by Syalang on Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:32 pm

wat the? gumagamit pala ng small leters na algo c nakajima sa f2l?? inde ko yan nakita sa solves nya ah...
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