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Post by paragon Wed May 28, 2008 4:29 pm

Guys help naman or need your advise just recently lang po ako nka buo ng cube using LBL kay pogobats methods nka 5.45 mins na po average ko. Gusto ko sana mas mapabilis pa. Ano method na gamitin ko . thanks po sa n u. Laughing Laughing Razz Sad
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Post by bonoan1027 Wed May 28, 2008 4:31 pm

Fridrich CFOP method

Cross F2L OLL PLL

oh... and yeah... practice
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Post by jm_01133 Wed May 28, 2008 4:36 pm

uu tama c bonoan1027...

hNap ka pa ng OLL at PLL ...bi2lis ka dUN.. cheers
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Post by jolo_mat2008 Wed May 28, 2008 5:53 pm

kung ako sau intuitive f2l muna while studying basi cross OLLS and PLLs...search mo na lang sa youtube intuitive f2l fridrich blahblah..or dito mismo sa forums..madami nang threads tungkol sa CFOP system..Smile


uhmm..pero ewan ko din ah..kung 5 mins average ka..mas ok cguro kung onting practice pa bago magswitch to CFOP..kc masadvance method talaga un..kelangan medyo may experience ka na DAW sa cube..kc ako 1 min average na ko nung nagswitch ako eh..ewan ko lang din..try mo din po..Smile
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Post by Erika Gomez Wed May 28, 2008 6:20 pm

fridrich/cfop search ka
type ka sa search box tapos me mga links ng websites dun kung san ka pede matuto .. andami dun

ex. tingnan mo yung sa 3x3 dun
https://pinoyspeedcubers.forumotion.com/speedcubing-f7/favorite-speedcubing-websites-t3692.htm?highlight=favorite


(super incomplete ka muna)
CFOP muna na gawin mo
--intuitive f2l .. or eto
http://www.ws.binghamton.edu/fridrich/Mike/middle.html
--then dahil bago pa, eto muna:
1) gawa ka cross sa LL (last layer)
2) then sa oll memo mo muna 7 cases lang muna
(all edges flipped correctly)
http://www.ws.binghamton.edu/fridrich/Mike/orient.html
3) memo mo muna (pede isa pede dalawa) A-perm tsaka (pede isa, pede dalawa na)u perm
http://www.ws.binghamton.edu/fridrich/Mike/permute.html


search ka kuya sa susunod .. basta kung aaralin mo fridrich, ganun nalang muna gawin mo .. marami pang ibang sites, hanap ka nalang .. tinatamad ako e ... basta search ka lang

marami pang mas magandang site kesa sa binigay ko .. yun lang kasi nakita ko agad kaya dun nalang ..
hanap ka
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Post by i.luv.cube Wed May 28, 2008 6:25 pm

according to the existing threads I've read, unfortunately, I forgot where are those na. Basta ang important yung nabasa ko, so here it goes:

Before ka lumipat sa ibang method na mas advance, try reducing first your time upto less than 1 min, after that tsaka ka palang dapat lumipat sa mas advance. Though I did not followed it, gawin mo na muna siguro yan then sure ako bibilis ka din.

I noticed nga pala na may solution si pogobat na mas mabilis kaysa sa OLL/PLL pero sobrang unti ng chance para manngyari yun Smile
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Post by jolo_mat2008 Wed May 28, 2008 6:31 pm

yup..that's exactly my point..kung 5 min average ka..dalawa lang dahilan nya..ung method mo po eh nd pangmabilisan..AND medyo mabagal pa po ung recognition mo ng colors and pieces nung cube..pag nagswitch ka agad sa CFOP..malamang nyan ay mabaliw ka sa paghahanap ng f2l pairs..kaya i suggest na pababain muna ung time to at least below 1min 10 seconds..Smile ayun..Very Happy suggestion lang po..madali lang naman yan..mabilis lang maabot ganung time eh..Wink
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Post by jhameel_killua03 Wed May 28, 2008 7:22 pm

sir paragon gamitin nyo po yung CFOP system... garantisado po .... Very Happy .... bibilis ka talaga sa method na yun.... gud luck po ... and happy cubing...
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Post by supercuber Wed May 28, 2008 7:46 pm

Dapat pababain mo muna yung time mo...
Tama sila...
Ako nagswitch ako sa CFOP nung nag 1min na average ko eh
siguro mga 1 month mo pa gamitin LBL...
After that pagaralan mo F2l
then Oll and Pll
Parang ako rin ikaw ah...
5 mins first solve ko....
Hehe....
pero bababa din yan time mo promise.....
Practice lang.....
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Post by strawberryshake Wed May 28, 2008 8:28 pm


mg f2l (fridrich) method ka...
ung CFOP (Cross F2L OLL PLL)
tas mg memo k ng mga OLL at PLL
practice everday
bibilis k den
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Post by jolo_mat2008 Wed May 28, 2008 9:25 pm

@ supercuber...nd naman cguro one month..after 1 week of lbl napababa ko na time ko from about 3-4 mins to 1 min flat eh.. mabilis lang magimprove kapag lbl ka pa..nd naman cguro one month..Razz after 1 1/2 weeks of lbl nagswitch na ko sa f2l eh..pero wala pang olls and plls kc tinatamad ako magmemo that time..Smile after one month of f2l cguro sub-45 average ako without any olls and plls..tapos ayun..after 3 whole months of cubing..bale about 2 months of cfop..ayun..nakasub 30 average din ako sa wakas..my point is..kapag mataas pa ung time tulad ko..mabilis magimprove..Smile kapag sub 25 na cguro saka sobrang bagal magimprove..pero dpende rin cguro sa tao..Smile
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Post by tungkel_08 Wed May 28, 2008 11:12 pm

magswitch ka na sa Fridrich

or hanap ka ng method that best suits you well

aq petrus f2l and fridrich for LL

ndi kc lahat eh hiyang oh bagay sa fridrich

pero naun sinusubukan ko mag full fridrich

pero cyempre mabagal pa koh sa full fridrich

magsearch ka muna poh tol

plsssssssssss

ok

geh tol
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Post by cupid Thu May 29, 2008 12:04 am


CFOP.,
OLL nd PLL prctice.,
F2L memo.,
=)
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Post by kmcruz09 Fri May 30, 2008 12:00 pm

Switching to CFOP at that point is somehow unreasonable. Try to reduce your times first up to sub1min or less. (Katulad ko nasobrahan, sub-30 sa LBL nung nagswitch sa CFOP haha) Basta ayun, practice lang nung old method mo or find a way to optimize your LBL. Then pag comfortable ka na and you intend to continue your "speedcubing carreer" to the max, it would be the time to switch to a much advance method like Fridrich or so.
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Post by luk Fri May 30, 2008 4:57 pm

Fridrich method po...

CFOP...^_^.

Cross,F2L(1st 2 layers sabay), Orrientation tapos Permutaion..

Try mo 2ng cite na2... cubestation.co.uk
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Post by jolo_mat2008 Fri May 30, 2008 6:32 pm

* agreeing 100 % with kmcruz..Smile* it's really advisable to trim down your time to sub 1:10 first b4 switching to CFOP..Smile
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Post by dotdotdot Fri May 30, 2008 9:36 pm

uu nga!...ung 1st solve ko averaging ako ng 4 - 5 mins..^^....praktis mo finger trickz mo at cross...makaka ave ka na ng 1.20 sa lbl..^^
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Post by supercuber Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:16 pm

jolo_mat2008 wrote:@ supercuber...nd naman cguro one month..after 1 week of lbl napababa ko na time ko from about 3-4 mins to 1 min flat eh.. mabilis lang magimprove kapag lbl ka pa..nd naman cguro one month..Razz after 1 1/2 weeks of lbl nagswitch na ko sa f2l eh..pero wala pang olls and plls kc tinatamad ako magmemo that time..Smile after one month of f2l cguro sub-45 average ako without any olls and plls..tapos ayun..after 3 whole months of cubing..bale about 2 months of cfop..ayun..nakasub 30 average din ako sa wakas..my point is..kapag mataas pa ung time tulad ko..mabilis magimprove..Smile kapag sub 25 na cguro saka sobrang bagal magimprove..pero dpende rin cguro sa tao..Smile


hehe... tama ka nga... hehe.. kasi almost 1 month ko gamit yung LBL kaya yun ang naisuggest ko.. hindi ko pa kasi alam yung mga fridrich noon eh... hehehe
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Post by van21691 Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:36 am

5 mins LBL?

Here's my suggestion.
Fingertricks
Buy DIY Cube
Fingertricks
Fingertricks
Practice
Learn CFOP or any method you want
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Post by rafael1991 Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:28 pm

ang masusugest ko lng.. search mo sa youtube ung 2Look OLL or Orient Last Layer 2LOOK and UNg Permute last layer 2Look PLL.. and try to praktice the F2L=First 2 Layers... magsasama ka ng isang Corner at isang edge... un lng masusugest ko.. pro pag di mo type un.. try prakticing Lars Pertus Method ok...
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Post by wawell24 Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:35 pm

-practice muna sir,dati nung ganyan pa time ko gsto ko na mgswitch agad,eh mahihirapan p daw ako,sanayin mo muna sarili mo sa cube mo,bili ka maganda at madulas na cube.iwasan ang grip turns.pag sanay ka na sa LBL method tska ka mgswitch,1:10 ang average ko nung ngswitch ako sa fridrich.practice muna,may maibaba pa yang time mo kahit LBL padin yan.
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