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Post by jusay_mitch29 on Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:37 am

i think its better to be intuitive than memorize algos since you could easily memorize your own thought-up algo and algos for f2l seems like its just the use of common sense to put the 2 piece together therfore i think it just written intuitive f2l... this is my opinion can you give your pls Very Happy

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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by xiphuscube on Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:56 am

Meron cases na dapat may memorize ka din na F2l algos lalo na pag mga unwanted cases un. In some cases it might be better to look up a solution algorithm that guarantees the shortest number of moves.

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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by magickero on Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:07 pm

Intuitive has always worked for me. I never tried algo F2L... Hehehe.

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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by jusay_mitch29 on Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:35 pm

ang algo ko lang ata kapag nakapasok na sa slot tapos reverse ung middle piece f2l ko is intuitive which take 24 sec average mabagal ako mag recognize ng colors...

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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by lorcan on Sat Mar 15, 2008 3:15 pm

never memorize algo . . just look for a patern or the movements of

the parts of the cube . . mkkta mo nmn kaagad pag mppsok mo ung

f2l kc as in common sense lng tlga hehe

peo may mga algo sa f2l na dumadaan sa d mo inaakalng

pde dumaan at mas mgnda ang finger tricks

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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by superken on Sat Mar 15, 2008 3:19 pm

Alam ko yung mga cases, pero hindi ko sila kabisado,
parang naka-embed lang sila sa utak or something, kasi pag
kabisado mo sila narerestrict ka sa FR slot, ako alam ko yung galaw niya or something kaya in any slot kaya ko siyang i-execute, wala namang kaso ang intuitive same lang din naman siya ng mga "algo" f2l, pero i suggest na tignan niyo din yun, para makita niyo yung mga lesser move solutions.

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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by Jome on Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:20 pm

Algo F2L's are basically Intuitive F2L's reduced to the least number of moves.

And if you're really using common sense, I think that would be the best way to go. Pero as Ken says, dapat di niyo i-limit ang sarili niyo sa FR slot. Dapat adjustable and executable from all sides kung pwede.

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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by pajodaep on Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:50 pm

ang opinion ko naman, it's better if you try to do intuitive f2l muna, then just memorize those really hard cases...

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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by magickero on Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:26 pm

Actually sakin pareho lang ang mga cases... Hahaha. May mga nadiscover din akong patterns. XD

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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by pancho86 on Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:01 pm

ako memorized ko lahat... hehehe. puera na lang ung iba na di nakasulat sa tutorials, basta marami pang di kasama na cases dun eh...

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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by xiphuscube on Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:14 pm

Ang kulit nga ng intuitive F2L ko, puro empty slot ung ginagawa ko. Pag mismatch pairs mejo dumadami ung moves na nagagawa ko T_T

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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by thugster_9904 on Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:40 am

@TPAMS

Sundin nio si superken!! Galing yan!! Naging fan na ako nian since nakita Q ung vid nia sa G perm Ahehehe!

Ako intuitive muna.. Kaso, planning to memorize and UNDERSTAND the movements para ndi ka KABISOTE!!!!

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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by jesus-paolo on Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:03 pm

i use intuitive f2l....saan ba mkakakuha ng "algo F2L"?
c superken idol ko yan,ambilis.nkta ko xa 1 time s cubemeet...sub20 yta un....

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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by cmdsaved on Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:10 pm

it's the other way around for me haha. nauna ko kasing kabisaduhin ung algs ng f2l. kaya ngayon habang walang ginagawa pinagaaralan ko siyang gawin katulad nung sinasabi ni ken na ipapasok kahit hindi sa FR slot. kaya parang nagaaral ako ng intuitive f2l ngayon. ngak! hehe. si ken super yan sa intuitive!

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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by erickjaja13 on Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:31 pm

saan makikita yung guide for intuitive F2L??
anong site

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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by xpoiled7 on Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:35 pm

@erickjaja13
marami pong tutorial sa youtube nun

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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by SlowestCuber on Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:42 pm

ako una kong napag aralan ung algo f2l kasi... mabait akong bata sinusunod sunod ko "noob eh hahah"
tpos tyaka lng modify...
sa ngaun puro modify ako sa OLL medyo successful nmn puro RUF na lng xa haha ... nakakalimutan ko pa... haha
Actually pareho lang talga xa medyo nag kakaiba lang sa recognition... in a sense... kasi rerecognize mo kung anung case xa pag nilagay mo xa sa FR....
d ko lang alam sa intuitive pero kasi pag pinapanuod ko ung ibang cuber na nag iintuitive f2l kakaiba recognition nya...
pero practice lang... kya mo na rin mag lagay sa ibang slot ehehe
pero mas kumportable ako Sa FR sob...T_T

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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by xyborgcubinots on Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:28 pm

hehe ako full intuitive algos ehehehe.... d pa me ngccmula magmememorze magmemo ng f2l method eh...hehehe...but im sub 27 im stll memorizing OLL cases.. i only nid 15 cases...hehe then f2l na! pll complete q na...hmh

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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by wawell24 on Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:29 am

bngyan ako tip ni ate jc..

-pag intuitive,sarili mong algs..ikaw mgiisip..

-sa algs f2l,memo..

-sbi nya mas ok ung memo algs kesa intuitive kc dun,mgiisip ka pa,sa algs,hndi na msydo..khit ppno mbbwasan ung tym mo khit point(.)..


my point nmn sya dun..


-ako?intuitive..hehehehe..tska emptyslot..nyahahaha..

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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by isaganiesteron on Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:37 am

algs is better, because with intuitive you might not get the least amount of moves and thats whats improtant with f2l.. also when your learning the algs and performing them, you can see how the pieces move so its not just alg application.. intuitive is just good when starting out...

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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by NoWi on Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:52 am

ALGS n Intuitive both 4 me qng anu mai mas fewer moves

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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by S a s o r i on Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:50 am

erickjaja13 wrote:saan makikita yung guide for intuitive F2L??
anong site

uhm.. kaya nga intuitive eh... Very Happy
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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by tungkel_08 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:41 am

both are good aman ah

ganda ung intuitive kase ur own way of solving the cube.

maipagmamalaki mo

xe kaw ang gumawa

mas madli mo din magagamit kaxe nga kaw ang gumawa db

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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by TheJoker on Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:32 pm

Ken and JOme is correct... even pajodaep... maganda intuitive... tapos tingnan mo kung saan at ano ang daan ng F2L...

tapos pag parang alam mo na... matutulad ka kay ken... kahit saan slot nagsosolve ng F2L... ganun din ata sina Jome at Pajodaep...

ako naman in my case... di rin ako dependent sa FR... gamit ko kaliwa ko... nasanay eh... pag nasa bandang kaliwa ko yun pairs... kaliwa ginagamit ko... since alam ko naman yun moves... pag malapit sa kanan... kanan ginagamit ko... palitan sila... tinatanong nga me kung di me nalilito... kasi minsan SAME case sila pero minsan kaliwa ginagamit ko minsan kanan gamit pang execute...

mabilis naman execution ko... ang problema ko lang talaga is RECOGNITION... grabe... nasa HARAP ko na yung PAIRs di ko pa rin makita... heheheheheh... Very Happy:D:D

si CMDSAVED namang grabe... kabisado ALGS ng F2L... pero ang bilis din ng F2L nya... LL lang din sya may sabit...

dun malalaman yun nagsasabi ng totoo... na INTUITIVE F2L daw sila pero DEPENDENT sila sa FR... kasi ako ang mga DEPENDENT ang F2L sa FR eh mga ALGS F2L gamit... tulad ni CMDSAVED... di sya nahihiya na ALGS F2L gamit nya...

pero napansin ko... ilan na ang kilala kong ALGS F2L... bilis ng F2L nila... depende din siguro talaga sa RECOGNITION...

di naman ako color blind... o blind lang talaga ako...???

heheheheheh... Very Happy:D:D:D

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Re: intuitive f2l and algo f2l

Post by markgic on Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:43 am

when your starting maganda pag intuitive muna this way ma memo mo husto yung PLL and OLL then saka ka mag algo sa F2l like they say you really donot need to memo each try to look for good patter na mas mabilis and cases na shortcuts

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