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Post by kmcruz09 on Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:26 pm

Need help on F2L please.
Pa'no po madali magrecognize ng F2L pairs? Which one do you look for first, the corner or the edge? Where do you usually position it?
How do you learn intuitive F2L?
Advisable ba ang multislotting?

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Re: F2L Questions, Tips & Tricks

Post by Jome on Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:45 pm

You don't 'learn' intuitive F2L. Kaya nga intuitive. You make it on your own as you go.

You can do two things to recognize pairs: prediction and look ahead. Avoid inserting the corners while making the cross. Otherwise, you'll have a hard time finding their corresponding edges.

Positioning most probably should be learned everywhere, but the most probable would have to be the front and back. You must be able to insert an F2L pair from the front or back.

Multislotting? No. If you're still asking basic questions about F2L, you will not get multislotting at all. I am not undermining your capability. That is the situation of it. Multislotting needs both prediction and look ahead. And a whole lot of cube movement awareness.

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Re: F2L Questions, Tips & Tricks

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Re: F2L Questions, Tips & Tricks

Post by kmcruz09 on Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:08 pm

I'm not really a noob in F2L, I just can't do it fast, that's why I'm asking for tips on how to be fast in F2L.

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Re: F2L Questions, Tips & Tricks

Post by Nube on Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:25 pm

Just practice. Try solving the cube 100,000 times anf you'll see.

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Re: F2L Questions, Tips & Tricks

Post by kmcruz09 on Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:28 pm

OMG 100,000 times. Hahah. Anyway, magccube lang naman ako buong summer eh, so maybe before pasukan sub-20 na ako. BTW Sub35 ave. ko sa LBL, but then I decided to switch to Fridrich since ang limit ng LBL ko hanggang sub25 lng. Oh well. Practice, practice, practice. That's what I should do.

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Re: F2L Questions, Tips & Tricks

Post by lorcan on Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:35 pm

scrmble solve until you improve ur vultures eye in finding the pieces

icipin mo din n hanapin n agad ung isang pair while slotting d 1st pair

ako kc pde mag slot ng patalikod pagilid hehe kya blis n ko sa f2l

peo

nid improvements pa rin just improve ur vision

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Re: F2L Questions, Tips & Tricks

Post by Nube on Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:54 am

kmcruz09 wrote:OMG 100,000 times. Hahah. Anyway, magccube lang naman ako buong summer eh, so maybe before pasukan sub-20 na ako. BTW Sub35 ave. ko sa LBL, but then I decided to switch to Fridrich since ang limit ng LBL ko hanggang sub25 lng. Oh well. Practice, practice, practice. That's what I should do.

Talaga sub 35 ka sa LBL? Lupit mo naman. Sigurado kapag na- master mo na Fridrich sub 20 ka na.

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Re: F2L Questions, Tips & Tricks

Post by kmcruz09 on Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:26 am

Pero hanggang sub25 lang kinakaya ng LBL ko, di na kaya below. Kaya I decided to move to F2L.

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Re: F2L Questions, Tips & Tricks

Post by wawell24 on Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:59 pm

wajah..d k p b msaya nun..ahhahah..ako lbl ko sub 50 eh..wahahaha..astig ka..n_n

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Re: F2L Questions, Tips & Tricks

Post by lorcan on Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:08 pm

Nube wrote:
kmcruz09 wrote:OMG 100,000 times. Hahah. Anyway, magccube lang naman ako buong summer eh, so maybe before pasukan sub-20 na ako. BTW Sub35 ave. ko sa LBL, but then I decided to switch to Fridrich since ang limit ng LBL ko hanggang sub25 lng. Oh well. Practice, practice, practice. That's what I should do.

Talaga sub 35 ka sa LBL? Lupit mo naman. Sigurado kapag na- master mo na Fridrich sub 20 ka na.

wat? ang pagkakaintindi ko kc ung LBL nya sub 35 pero d p buo ung last layer? gnun b un?

hehehe d ko kc inimprove ung LBL ko hnggang sub 50 lng tpos jump to fridrich

ung LBL ko kc sub 25 hehe dati tpos ala p ko taob bale fish method amfufuf

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Re: F2L Questions, Tips & Tricks

Post by omar on Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:56 am

Ang nakit ko tungkol sa Multislotting:

inserting first pair, after that the next pair is prepared/positioned to be inserted. At first sabi ko "ayos ah". Kaso mahirap pala, requires a little memo, kung saan at paano mo ma i conect ung next pairs.

A una kong hinanap is edges, medyo mabagal recognition ko dito, then next ung corresponding corner [me white sticker naman kaya madaling ma recognize ung sakin].

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Re: F2L Questions, Tips & Tricks

Post by Jome on Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:20 am

Well, kung LBL ka, that would explain half the situation. All you should do now is continue solving in F2L form. Hindi ko rin talaga alam kung paano ako bumaba ng todo sa aspect na yun. All I know is that after a lot of practice, it came naturally.

Pero advice ko lang, ganito. Try mong hindi i-rotate ang cube mo during a solve unless necessary. Then try mong hulaan kung anong kulay yung 'hidden' edges and corners. Siyempre you do this as you solve the F2L. Yun ang ginagawa ko ngayon eh.

Prediction eventually leads to great look ahead.

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Re: F2L Questions, Tips & Tricks

Post by kmcruz09 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:25 am

So LBL ka din po dati? I decided to switch to F2L when I came here. I can't proceed less than sub 25s sa LBL ko eh, pero aware na ko sa Fridrich before. I just didn't have the time to study it since we have classes then. Pero since summer break na ngayon, I can switch to Fridrich na para when I come back to school on June, 1st na ko sa school nmen. ;D

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Re: F2L Questions, Tips & Tricks

Post by silvester on Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:15 pm

learn first ung lhat mgkdkit pairs s U sunod ung makhwlay den ung inserted n on right slotaagnun gnw q kya mblis aqng grumaduate s f2l

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Re: F2L Questions, Tips & Tricks

Post by jolo_mat2008 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:21 pm

ako kc..ginagawa ko pag kabuo nung cross..tinitignan ko kung merong corner pieces sa 1st layer..pag meron..ung mga un ung una kong binubuo..hinahanap ko na lang ung edges corresponding sa kanila..Very Happy kaya mo yan..cguro mga 1 week pa lang nung natutunan ko ung f2l..ngayon..inimprove nya ung best time ko from 1min4sec dati..(yeah mabagal pa po ako..Razz) to 45 seconds..Very Happy hehe..Smile mejo swerte pa ung 45 seconds ko..kc maganda position ng colors..madali nasolve top layer ko..Razz pero tingin ko ang nagpabilis talaga ay yung f2l..Smile

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Re: F2L Questions, Tips & Tricks

Post by kmcruz09 on Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:28 pm

hehe, ganun din ako, Very Happy best time ko sa full F2L, so far 37.xx s.

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Re: F2L Questions, Tips & Tricks

Post by xyborgcubinots on Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:05 pm

kelangan alerto ka para mrecognize mo agad ung kulay

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Re: F2L Questions, Tips & Tricks

Post by shogakukan on Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:15 pm

Twisted Evil tongue guys pnu ung pattern sa 3rd layer na fish?????hrap kxe kakalito eh.......pkipost pouh.....tnx

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Post by shogakukan on Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:17 pm

pnu pouh ung f2L???
3rd layer pouh ba??
best time koh pouh kxe .....

1 min and 51 secs eh

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Re: F2L Questions, Tips & Tricks

Post by shogakukan on Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:18 pm

i use ung cross eh......

ung may Ri Di R D sa huli..bgal pouh nun eh...pnu pouh ba bibilis ung best time q??

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Re: F2L Questions, Tips & Tricks

Post by kmcruz09 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:23 pm

8 Fingers yata tawag dun. Di ako sure. Kung gusto mo bumilis, switch ka sa Fridrich. Very Happy Or, pabilisin mo muna yang current method mo, improve mo yung pagrerecognize mo ng colors, tapos switch ka sa Fridrich.

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Re: F2L Questions, Tips & Tricks

Post by shogakukan on Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:44 pm

guys...do u have some tricks sa F2L??? para mbilis mkahanap ng pairs????hrap kxe eh...mdyo nkakalito sa umpsa lalo na kxe d ko kbisado ung mga cases eh...........

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Re: F2L Questions, Tips & Tricks

Post by shogakukan on Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:46 pm

Question kya q na pouh ung F2L..kakalito lng ung mga cases pg nsa mirror eh

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Re: F2L Questions, Tips & Tricks

Post by shogakukan on Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:50 pm

guys pnu ung mblis na F2L??? ilan pouh ba lhat ung mga cases??


at least kya q n ung F2L,pnapraktis q n dn ung OLL at ung PLL

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