Re: Pano kayo natuto ng CFOP/Fridrich?

by xiphuscube Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:15 pm

Ako I tried learning the intuitive F2L, para practice na rin for color/pairing recognition. Then I jumped to learning PLLs. So far, mga 16 cases p lng memorize ko. But now, I average mga 54sec na. Mejo mabagal pa kasi F2l color/pairing recognition ko hehehehe. Up to now, puro two look OLL pa rin ako kasi andami kelangan imemorize. And I think mejo mabilis na ko na rin ung two look OLL so siguro pag na-master ko n lng ung F2l and PLLs then saka ko na imememorize ung OLL ^_^

by S a s o r i Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:18 pm

intuitive F2L ako less 7 OLL tapos more than half PLL lang ang alam ko... average ko mga 41 something... more than 2 months na ako nag cucube.. sadyang mabagal lang improvements ko

by xiphuscube Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:22 pm

hehehe HENSHIN!

Newei, try mo muna memorize ung PLLs. kasi para sakin ok lng na kahit two look muna sa OLL. Tsaka sobrang daming cases kasi ung sa OLL. Kakabanas XD.

by iruel117 Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:23 pm

bundat wrote:Tinatry ko na derecho na sa memorization ng all full F2L, OLL, and PLL algos... di ko kaya

So few questions lang na gusto kong malaman from you, the reader...
- dumaan ba ikaw sa intuitive F2L, or straight to algos na?
Yes,hanggang ngayon gamit ko parin
- Nag 2-look PLL and OLL ka ba, or full algos na kagad?
Nope,nagsipag akong aralin lahat
- Ganong katagal bago ka natuto?
3 weeks
- Average solve time mo.
pagkatpos nyun sub35 ngayon sub 23

So far, nagiintuitive F2L ako, pero antagal nya talaga (30-40 secs).
Yung PLL and OLL, may kodigo pa waa.

by jusay_mitch29 Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:27 pm

what is 2look pll and oll

ako intuitive f2l which takes 35sec the least... 17 pll and i never counted the oll's i avarage 48 sec... indi ko po kinakarir kakatamad kasi e...

by **ynajatrice** Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:29 pm

dumaan ba ikaw sa intuitive F2L, or straight to algos na?
- sinubukan ko ang intuitive pero ambagal talaga
Nag 2-look PLL and OLL ka ba, or full algos na kagad?
- 4-look LL, yung 2-step OLL at PLL
Ganong katagal bago ka natuto?
- i'm in PLL training sa ngaun, targeting sub-25 in 4 months
Average solve time mo.
- sub-30

by eaU^ Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:16 am

So few questions lang na gusto kong malaman from you, the reader...
- dumaan ba ikaw sa intuitive F2L, or straight to algos na?

*intuitive gamit ko gang naun sa F2L.

- Nag 2-look PLL and OLL ka ba, or full algos na kagad?

*2lok OLL ako gang naun kasi cross casses plng alam ko tapos sa PLL dati din 2 look ako pero ngaun FULL PLL na..katamad mag memo ng OLL kasi hirap set-up

- Ganong katagal bago ka natuto?

*forgot*

- Average solve time mo.

nguan sub 30 prin dna umusad

by bnonymous Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:21 am

noob question: 2 Look PLL and OLL??

by igiul Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:42 am

follow up ko lang question ni bnonymous. ano po ang 2look pll? hehehe.. pati narin ang intuitive f2l?

sarry kakastart ko lang po mag cube XD

by lorcan Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:15 am

tyaga lng sa pag mememo

by thugster_9904 Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:34 am

Hi guys.. Ako din intuitive parin, ayokong cram ung utak Q ng F2L.. Instead, OLL's and PLL's muna Sub 50 sec na Q with only 5 OLL and 5 PLL's...

Lastly, Hndi Q force sarili Q na magkabisa, kung kelan Q lng magustuhan.. Saka me klasm8 kasi me na mahilig gumawa ng shortcuts sa OLL tulad nung "TANK shape na nasa harap ung ilaw" Ahehe...

by xiphuscube Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:43 pm

igiul wrote:follow up ko lang question ni bnonymous. ano po ang 2look pll? hehehe.. pati narin ang intuitive f2l?

sarry kakastart ko lang po mag cube XD

Two-Look OLL and PLL split each of the two steps of Fridrich last layer into two, corners and edges. As this greatly reduces the number of algorithms required, these serve as perfect stepping stones before advancing to full PLL and OLL.

by **basilcute** Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:36 pm

na try ko pong e memo lahat ng algo sa F2L, pero ang hirap... kaya intuitive F2L nalang gamit ko... ang bagal nga eh... 20-40 secs sa F2L palang... 2 secs sa cross... den memo ko OLL na may cross... haha! mga 8 algo lahat un... mabilis naman ang pag execute ko, kaya mga 20-30 sec... den 2 look PLL naman... haha! kaya, TOTAL=ang bagal!! bounce

sana mag-improve ako ngaung summer... bounce

by jaypee Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:56 pm

aq intuitive f2l dn... pero mga 35 secs lng lhat.. sa cross aq nabobobo... halos kinain 10 sec.. haiz... tpos oll ko... mga 3 convert pa... kxe sune lng ang alam ko ee... T_T pero kpag sinuwerte... dretcho sune... wow!! ang bilis... tpos sa pll.. isang convert lng sa u perm... ayos na... sakto 1min,... hehe ^^,

by meaty21 Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:28 pm

ako din, intuitive f2l, pero nagulat ako kasi ung intuitive f2l ko, halos kapareho nung algos na nasa danscubestation. except dun sa corner piece facing up. dun ako natatagalan mejo. OLL ko, maximum of 3 look kasi 16 lang ata kabisado ko. PLL ko 2 look kasi kulang pa ko ng 2 PLL cases. 1 week kasi ko nag LBL tapos derecho CFOP na. im averaging(12 cubes) 27.xx kada session. practice lang ng look ahead sa f2l, un kasi ung pinaka kumakain ng time eh. ngayon im aiming na maka 11-14 sec f2l para bilis oras. practice lang! at wag magsasawa! Very Happy

by McNizzty Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:09 am

ako din intuitive f2l ang ginagawa ko ehh... mas madali sa cross lang ako nag kakalat..

by kmcruz09 Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:12 am

intuitive F2L ginagawa ko, pero mabagal pa. 2days plang akong F2L. 2-look OLL for most cases (around 15 memorized ko) tapos sa PLL V, F tska yung 2 NPerm nlang kulang ko. Average = Around 50s, compared to sub 35 pag LBL ako. Hay.

by trane2122 Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:27 am

waaaaaaaa.... grabeh... aq near 1 minute ee. F2L plang. tpos sune then pll. aun lagpas 1 minute T_T

by bulleteliz Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:27 pm

xiphuscube wrote:
igiul wrote:follow up ko lang question ni bnonymous. ano po ang 2look pll? hehehe.. pati narin ang intuitive f2l?

sarry kakastart ko lang po mag cube XD

Two-Look OLL and PLL split each of the two steps of Fridrich last layer into two, corners and edges. As this greatly reduces the number of algorithms required, these serve as perfect stepping stones before advancing to full PLL and OLL.

Ah!! un pob ung 2-look?? eh ung 4-look LL?? nuh pu un?!my 3-look LL P?

by **Jonathan M. Tipay** Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:07 am

2 Look LL means you solve the orientation and permutation of the last layer with 1 algorithm each.

3 Look LL means you solve the orientation with 2 algorithms and the permutation with 1 algorithm (or vice versa... haven't heard of a 1-look OLL and 2-look PLL though)

4 Look LL means you solve the orientation with 2 algorithms and the permutation with 2 algorithms. I think this is divided into stages: Edge orientation, corner orientation, edge permutation and corner permutation (much like the BLD methods).

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