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F2L Comparison.

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Post by superken Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:19 am

DISCLAIMER: This thread is not noob-friendly. Any noob posts will be deleted.

So here how it goes.
- Everyone can join!
- Scramble, solve, sulat.
- No optimizations, think of it like a normal speed-kabado-solve.
- Do check your post about a hundred times.
- If you're too scared to join this thread. Good.
- If you wan't to ask how to improve your f2l, im so, slow help me pow pleaSeSe?!?!, then post your own solve so we can work things out.
- Bryan Manzana, I miss you!
- Please. Don`t delete this. Please?

This post will constantly be updated, ie. new scrambles, etc.

Scramble with White on Top and Green on Front.
Start solving whichever way you want. Just dont forget cube rotations.


Scramble:
R2 D2 B' F R' D' L2 F U2 F' B R2 B' F U R2 U F U D2 F U2 F U' D


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BOY Scheme.


Ken

Cross: x2 F u' F R y R' u' R
1: L' U L F U2 F'
2: U R' U' R U' R' U R
3: d L' U2 L U L' U' L
4: U2 y R U' R' U R U R'
Time of Fluent Execution: 11.08s

Jome

Cross: z2 L y L' R D' F R u'
1: y U' R' U' R
2: R U' R' U2 y' R' U' R
3: U' L' U L U y L' U2 L
4: L U' L' U2 y' L' U' L
Time of Fluent Execution: 14.29s


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Post by Jome Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:22 am

Ako 'tong nagsasabi ng less rotations, pero ako madami. Haha. Nakakabwisit yung mga pasok ng F2L ko. Iwas, iwas.

Please don't clutter this thread with questions and inane comments. Post your own UN-OPTIMIZED solves for the F2L ALONE. Thanks. Smile
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Post by 4GO57O Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:37 am

Bryan
Cross:d' R2 U2 F' U M x'
1:U' R' U R U' R' U' R
2:U' R U R' U2 R U R'
3:U' D(sabay)L' U L D'
4:U d L' U' L

paano iooptimize yung nakasolve na yung corners?or kung nakasolve na yung edge?


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Post by papplazy Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:48 am

Green Front White Up scramble. Here's my take.

z2-Yellow up Green front.

Cross= D' L' B2 D' B' F' R U R' F2

1. U L U' L' U F' U' F
2. F U F' R' U R'
3. L U' L' U B' U B
4. U2 L' U' L

If only all of my solves were like this. Hingger Dingger


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Post by superken Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:08 am

Agosto: I like the third slot, Empty slot technique! Ganda ng solve walang rotations. 'd 'moves lang. lol.
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Post by benjediman Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:26 am

z2 U' L U L F' y' L' u L' u

y' L U2 L' U y' L' U' L

U' R U R'

U2 R' U' R U2 L U L'

y2 U L' U L U2 y L U L'

sorry for all those rotations! haha!

i donno what "fluent execution" means. but if you mean the time you get after trying to master it, then i got 10.90. if not, then i got 16-18 secs haha.



And now, allow me to critique Very Happy :


Hmm. I tried Ken's solve, and he has a very nice starting cross and the f2l cases are my favorites, i wouldn't have thought of that. although, what i would have done though is z2 y2 F u' F U l U' f' x for the last edge. and boy, it led me to a sweet f2l haha!

U L' U' L

U' R U' R' y U L' U L

U' R U' R'

R' U' R

only one rotation Very Happy

of course, its kinda by accident Razz

Jome's F2L is already good, i cant find anything better (at normal speed, i mean). but, i found a rather good execution for for the same moves in his cross.


z2 y' F R' y2 R u' l U f', which leads to the same first CE pair with no rotation Smile

i optimized it for myself, a leftie, giving me L F' y' L u' L F u', also leading to the same first CE pair without rotation Smile

of course, these are already optimizations for fingertricks. but, with practice, they can also be thought of during pre-inspection.
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Post by superken Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:30 pm

Bryan: Double layer turns, much? Lol.

Like the approach, but I think I can`t see that in pre-inspection that fast. Abt your solve, i wouldve done.

z2 U' L U L F' y' L' u L' u

U R U2 R2 U' R

U' L U L'

U' L U L' R U R'

U2 y' R U' R' U R U R'

one rotation!

I guess it`s not just optimized algs e. Iniisip ko yung concept ng F2L decision making shiznit. Para basta malabo pa yung idea ko. meh.
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Post by jesus-paolo Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:36 pm

CROSS: z' l U L' e' y L' U

1. x' U' R U
2. x R2 U' R' U l2 U R U'
3. R' U' R' U l U R U'
4. z' R U R'

**I'm a left-crosser.....
length of execution: 14.77 seconds

@superken
you can optimize your {z2 y2} to x2 alone...just my observation.. peace! Neutral Neutral
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Post by iruel117 Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:51 pm

IRUEL
scramble white top green front
Cross:x2 F D U L F R' D'
1:U R2 U2 R U R' U R2
2:U2 L' R U' R' L
3:U2 L U' L' y' R U R'
4:U2 L' U L U' L' U L
time of fluent execution: 9.87
yey 1 rotation


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Post by Jome Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:34 pm

@Iruel

Follow the scramble. White top, green front. Di ka nag-specify ng itsura ng cube sa solution. Kung yellow top, red front ka, i-specify mo. Di gagana ang solution mo sa setup namin. Thanks.
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Post by pepesmith Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:33 pm

orange front yellow top solution

cross:

R D' U F R B' D'

F2L:

1st: L' U2 L U F' L F L

U

2ND: L U2 L' U' L U L'

d

3RD:R' U' R U' R' U R

U'

4TH:L U2 L' U2 L U' L'

moves in between are preparation moves LOLx ^_^

time of execution:12.96 sec

ndi fluent kasi bleh sinasanay ko p left turns ko saka im trying to do F group moves s f2l para less cube rotations... kea bumagal ave ko ngaun T_T
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Post by ynajatrice Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:30 pm

cross: x' U2 L U' L F'
1: y' U R U2 R' U R U' R'
2: y' U R U' R' U' F' U F
3: y' R U' R' y U' L' U2 L U' L' U L
4: y2 R U' R' U R U' R'

execution: 13.67 (i suck LOL :p)

hnd ko pa memorized lahat ng f2l algs

sorry din sa rotations

hehehe

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Post by kmcruz09 Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:12 pm

Scramble with green on U and white on F

cross - B U2 L D' S L z'

D2 y' R' U' R y
D' U R U' R' U2 R U R' D'
U2 y R U' R' y' R' U2 R
y U' L' U' L U' y R U R'

execution time: 13.54s
i suck. >.< andaming y/y' rotations
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Post by terisiare121 Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:57 pm

Scramble with green on front and white on top

z2 y'

Cross:
U' F U L' F R' U L2 D2 (too many moves I guess)

CE Pairs:
1. L' U L d L U' L'
2. d' L' U L U2 L' U L
3. d' L' U2 L U2 L' U' L
4. d' R U' R' d' L' U L

9 move cross >.<

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Post by Nero_IV Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:49 pm

Cross: z2 y' L D' y' U L F R' D'
1. L U' L' y R' U2 R
2. U L U' L' d R' U' R U' R' U R
3. U R U' R'
4. U' L' U L y' R U R'

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Post by cubecubecube Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:55 pm

x y F' R2 u' L2 D2 (cross on blue)

U2 y R' U' R

y R' U' R U' R' U R

U2 L' U L U2 L' U L

U2 y R' U R

actual time: 7.69s
time of fluent execution: 7.12s

lucky!!!


Last edited by cubecubecube on Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:37 pm; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : nagkamali ng type ng solution.)

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Post by chaos2121 Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:24 pm

CROSS= z2 y R u R B' L' u L

1ST pair= R' U R B' U2 B

2ND pair= y' R' U2 R U2 R B R' B

3RD pair= U2 R U R' U R U' R' U R U R'

4TH pair= y' R U R' U2 R U R'

Ang pangit ng solve ko ang dami plang moves heheh

actual time: 18.11
time of fluent execution: 16.52
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Post by rodel_0521 Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:34 pm

here's mine..

cross: x2 U F' D R' L D L

1. y' U R U R'2 U' R

2. U R U R' y' L' U L

3. U2 y L' U L

4. U' R U' R' U2 R U' R'

time of fluent execution: 16.66 sec.


kabagal...haizt..
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Post by jracelis22 Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:52 pm

Scramble with grin F yellow U
Cross: y' L F D' L B' R B D
1. L' U L U2 R U' R'
2. U' L U' L' U B' U B
3. U F U2 F' U2 F U' F'
4. U' R' U' R U R' U2 R U' R' U R

hehehehe... d q memorize f2l
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Post by jusay_mitch29 Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:53 pm

y L R2 D R' U2 L B L U' L F2 = XCROSS ON YELLOW

U' B U B' U R' U R U L' U2 L R U' R' U F' U' F = ALL SIDES FILLED
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