F2L Comparison.
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F2L Comparison.
DISCLAIMER: This thread is not noob-friendly. Any noob posts will be deleted.
So here how it goes.
- Everyone can join!
- Scramble, solve, sulat.
- No optimizations, think of it like a normal speed-kabado-solve.
- Do check your post about a hundred times.
- If you're too scared to join this thread. Good.
- If you wan't to ask how to improve your f2l, im so, slow help me pow pleaSeSe?!?!, then post your own solve so we can work things out.
- Bryan Manzana, I miss you!
- Please. Don`t delete this. Please?
This post will constantly be updated, ie. new scrambles, etc.
Scramble with White on Top and Green on Front.
Start solving whichever way you want. Just dont forget cube rotations.
Scramble:
R2 D2 B' F R' D' L2 F U2 F' B R2 B' F U R2 U F U D2 F U2 F U' D
BOY Scheme.
Ken
Cross: x2 F u' F R y R' u' R
1: L' U L F U2 F'
2: U R' U' R U' R' U R
3: d L' U2 L U L' U' L
4: U2 y R U' R' U R U R'
Time of Fluent Execution: 11.08s
Jome
Cross: z2 L y L' R D' F R u'
1: y U' R' U' R
2: R U' R' U2 y' R' U' R
3: U' L' U L U y L' U2 L
4: L U' L' U2 y' L' U' L
Time of Fluent Execution: 14.29s
So here how it goes.
- Everyone can join!
- Scramble, solve, sulat.
- No optimizations, think of it like a normal speed-kabado-solve.
- Do check your post about a hundred times.
- If you're too scared to join this thread. Good.
- If you wan't to ask how to improve your f2l, im so, slow help me pow pleaSeSe?!?!, then post your own solve so we can work things out.
- Bryan Manzana, I miss you!
- Please. Don`t delete this. Please?
This post will constantly be updated, ie. new scrambles, etc.
Scramble with White on Top and Green on Front.
Start solving whichever way you want. Just dont forget cube rotations.
Scramble:
R2 D2 B' F R' D' L2 F U2 F' B R2 B' F U R2 U F U D2 F U2 F U' D
BOY Scheme.
Ken
Cross: x2 F u' F R y R' u' R
1: L' U L F U2 F'
2: U R' U' R U' R' U R
3: d L' U2 L U L' U' L
4: U2 y R U' R' U R U R'
Time of Fluent Execution: 11.08s
Jome
Cross: z2 L y L' R D' F R u'
1: y U' R' U' R
2: R U' R' U2 y' R' U' R
3: U' L' U L U y L' U2 L
4: L U' L' U2 y' L' U' L
Time of Fluent Execution: 14.29s
Last edited by superken on Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:41 pm; edited 6 times in total
Re: F2L Comparison.
Ako 'tong nagsasabi ng less rotations, pero ako madami. Haha. Nakakabwisit yung mga pasok ng F2L ko. Iwas, iwas.
Please don't clutter this thread with questions and inane comments. Post your own UN-OPTIMIZED solves for the F2L ALONE. Thanks.
Please don't clutter this thread with questions and inane comments. Post your own UN-OPTIMIZED solves for the F2L ALONE. Thanks.
Re: F2L Comparison.
Bryan
Cross:d' R2 U2 F' U M x'
1:U' R' U R U' R' U' R
2:U' R U R' U2 R U R'
3:U' D(sabay)L' U L D'
4:U d L' U' L
paano iooptimize yung nakasolve na yung corners?or kung nakasolve na yung edge?
Cross:d' R2 U2 F' U M x'
1:U' R' U R U' R' U' R
2:U' R U R' U2 R U R'
3:U' D(sabay)L' U L D'
4:U d L' U' L
paano iooptimize yung nakasolve na yung corners?or kung nakasolve na yung edge?
Last edited by 4GO57O on Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:47 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : wrong scramble ginawa ko ._.)
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Re: F2L Comparison.
Green Front White Up scramble. Here's my take.
z2-Yellow up Green front.
Cross= D' L' B2 D' B' F' R U R' F2
1. U L U' L' U F' U' F
2. F U F' R' U R'
3. L U' L' U B' U B
4. U2 L' U' L
If only all of my solves were like this. Hingger Dingger
z2-Yellow up Green front.
Cross= D' L' B2 D' B' F' R U R' F2
1. U L U' L' U F' U' F
2. F U F' R' U R'
3. L U' L' U B' U B
4. U2 L' U' L
If only all of my solves were like this. Hingger Dingger
Last edited by papplazy on Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:37 am; edited 3 times in total (Reason for editing : LETTERS. blah...)
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Re: F2L Comparison.
Agosto: I like the third slot, Empty slot technique! Ganda ng solve walang rotations. 'd 'moves lang. lol.
Re: F2L Comparison.
z2 U' L U L F' y' L' u L' u
y' L U2 L' U y' L' U' L
U' R U R'
U2 R' U' R U2 L U L'
y2 U L' U L U2 y L U L'
sorry for all those rotations! haha!
i donno what "fluent execution" means. but if you mean the time you get after trying to master it, then i got 10.90. if not, then i got 16-18 secs haha.
And now, allow me to critique :
Hmm. I tried Ken's solve, and he has a very nice starting cross and the f2l cases are my favorites, i wouldn't have thought of that. although, what i would have done though is z2 y2 F u' F U l U' f' x for the last edge. and boy, it led me to a sweet f2l haha!
U L' U' L
U' R U' R' y U L' U L
U' R U' R'
R' U' R
only one rotation
of course, its kinda by accident
Jome's F2L is already good, i cant find anything better (at normal speed, i mean). but, i found a rather good execution for for the same moves in his cross.
z2 y' F R' y2 R u' l U f', which leads to the same first CE pair with no rotation
i optimized it for myself, a leftie, giving me L F' y' L u' L F u', also leading to the same first CE pair without rotation
of course, these are already optimizations for fingertricks. but, with practice, they can also be thought of during pre-inspection.
y' L U2 L' U y' L' U' L
U' R U R'
U2 R' U' R U2 L U L'
y2 U L' U L U2 y L U L'
sorry for all those rotations! haha!
i donno what "fluent execution" means. but if you mean the time you get after trying to master it, then i got 10.90. if not, then i got 16-18 secs haha.
And now, allow me to critique :
Hmm. I tried Ken's solve, and he has a very nice starting cross and the f2l cases are my favorites, i wouldn't have thought of that. although, what i would have done though is z2 y2 F u' F U l U' f' x for the last edge. and boy, it led me to a sweet f2l haha!
U L' U' L
U' R U' R' y U L' U L
U' R U' R'
R' U' R
only one rotation
of course, its kinda by accident
Jome's F2L is already good, i cant find anything better (at normal speed, i mean). but, i found a rather good execution for for the same moves in his cross.
z2 y' F R' y2 R u' l U f', which leads to the same first CE pair with no rotation
i optimized it for myself, a leftie, giving me L F' y' L u' L F u', also leading to the same first CE pair without rotation
of course, these are already optimizations for fingertricks. but, with practice, they can also be thought of during pre-inspection.
benjediman- 2x2x2
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Re: F2L Comparison.
Bryan: Double layer turns, much? Lol.
Like the approach, but I think I can`t see that in pre-inspection that fast. Abt your solve, i wouldve done.
z2 U' L U L F' y' L' u L' u
U R U2 R2 U' R
U' L U L'
U' L U L' R U R'
U2 y' R U' R' U R U R'
one rotation!
I guess it`s not just optimized algs e. Iniisip ko yung concept ng F2L decision making shiznit. Para basta malabo pa yung idea ko. meh.
Like the approach, but I think I can`t see that in pre-inspection that fast. Abt your solve, i wouldve done.
z2 U' L U L F' y' L' u L' u
U R U2 R2 U' R
U' L U L'
U' L U L' R U R'
U2 y' R U' R' U R U R'
one rotation!
I guess it`s not just optimized algs e. Iniisip ko yung concept ng F2L decision making shiznit. Para basta malabo pa yung idea ko. meh.
Re: F2L Comparison.
CROSS: z' l U L' e' y L' U
1. x' U' R U
2. x R2 U' R' U l2 U R U'
3. R' U' R' U l U R U'
4. z' R U R'
**I'm a left-crosser.....
length of execution: 14.77 seconds
@superken
you can optimize your {z2 y2} to x2 alone...just my observation.. peace!
1. x' U' R U
2. x R2 U' R' U l2 U R U'
3. R' U' R' U l U R U'
4. z' R U R'
**I'm a left-crosser.....
length of execution: 14.77 seconds
@superken
you can optimize your {z2 y2} to x2 alone...just my observation.. peace!
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Re: F2L Comparison.
IRUEL
scramble white top green front
Cross:x2 F D U L F R' D'
1:U R2 U2 R U R' U R2
2:U2 L' R U' R' L
3:U2 L U' L' y' R U R'
4:U2 L' U L U' L' U L
time of fluent execution: 9.87
yey 1 rotation
scramble white top green front
Cross:x2 F D U L F R' D'
1:U R2 U2 R U R' U R2
2:U2 L' R U' R' L
3:U2 L U' L' y' R U R'
4:U2 L' U L U' L' U L
time of fluent execution: 9.87
yey 1 rotation
Last edited by iruel117 on Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:54 pm; edited 1 time in total
Re: F2L Comparison.
@Iruel
Follow the scramble. White top, green front. Di ka nag-specify ng itsura ng cube sa solution. Kung yellow top, red front ka, i-specify mo. Di gagana ang solution mo sa setup namin. Thanks.
Follow the scramble. White top, green front. Di ka nag-specify ng itsura ng cube sa solution. Kung yellow top, red front ka, i-specify mo. Di gagana ang solution mo sa setup namin. Thanks.
Re: F2L Comparison.
orange front yellow top solution
cross:
R D' U F R B' D'
F2L:
1st: L' U2 L U F' L F L
U
2ND: L U2 L' U' L U L'
d
3RD:R' U' R U' R' U R
U'
4TH:L U2 L' U2 L U' L'
moves in between are preparation moves LOLx ^_^
time of execution:12.96 sec
ndi fluent kasi bleh sinasanay ko p left turns ko saka im trying to do F group moves s f2l para less cube rotations... kea bumagal ave ko ngaun T_T
cross:
R D' U F R B' D'
F2L:
1st: L' U2 L U F' L F L
U
2ND: L U2 L' U' L U L'
d
3RD:R' U' R U' R' U R
U'
4TH:L U2 L' U2 L U' L'
moves in between are preparation moves LOLx ^_^
time of execution:12.96 sec
ndi fluent kasi bleh sinasanay ko p left turns ko saka im trying to do F group moves s f2l para less cube rotations... kea bumagal ave ko ngaun T_T
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Re: F2L Comparison.
cross: x' U2 L U' L F'
1: y' U R U2 R' U R U' R'
2: y' U R U' R' U' F' U F
3: y' R U' R' y U' L' U2 L U' L' U L
4: y2 R U' R' U R U' R'
execution: 13.67 (i suck LOL :p)
hnd ko pa memorized lahat ng f2l algs
sorry din sa rotations
hehehe
1: y' U R U2 R' U R U' R'
2: y' U R U' R' U' F' U F
3: y' R U' R' y U' L' U2 L U' L' U L
4: y2 R U' R' U R U' R'
execution: 13.67 (i suck LOL :p)
hnd ko pa memorized lahat ng f2l algs
sorry din sa rotations
hehehe
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Re: F2L Comparison.
Scramble with green on U and white on F
cross - B U2 L D' S L z'
D2 y' R' U' R y
D' U R U' R' U2 R U R' D'
U2 y R U' R' y' R' U2 R
y U' L' U' L U' y R U R'
execution time: 13.54s
i suck. >.< andaming y/y' rotations
cross - B U2 L D' S L z'
D2 y' R' U' R y
D' U R U' R' U2 R U R' D'
U2 y R U' R' y' R' U2 R
y U' L' U' L U' y R U R'
execution time: 13.54s
i suck. >.< andaming y/y' rotations
Re: F2L Comparison.
Scramble with green on front and white on top
z2 y'
Cross:
U' F U L' F R' U L2 D2 (too many moves I guess)
CE Pairs:
1. L' U L d L U' L'
2. d' L' U L U2 L' U L
3. d' L' U2 L U2 L' U' L
4. d' R U' R' d' L' U L
9 move cross >.<
z2 y'
Cross:
U' F U L' F R' U L2 D2 (too many moves I guess)
CE Pairs:
1. L' U L d L U' L'
2. d' L' U L U2 L' U L
3. d' L' U2 L U2 L' U' L
4. d' R U' R' d' L' U L
9 move cross >.<
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Re: F2L Comparison.
Cross: z2 y' L D' y' U L F R' D'
1. L U' L' y R' U2 R
2. U L U' L' d R' U' R U' R' U R
3. U R U' R'
4. U' L' U L y' R U R'
istufid
1. L U' L' y R' U2 R
2. U L U' L' d R' U' R U' R' U R
3. U R U' R'
4. U' L' U L y' R U R'
istufid
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Re: F2L Comparison.
x y F' R2 u' L2 D2 (cross on blue)
U2 y R' U' R
y R' U' R U' R' U R
U2 L' U L U2 L' U L
U2 y R' U R
actual time: 7.69s
time of fluent execution: 7.12s
lucky!!!
U2 y R' U' R
y R' U' R U' R' U R
U2 L' U L U2 L' U L
U2 y R' U R
actual time: 7.69s
time of fluent execution: 7.12s
lucky!!!
Last edited by cubecubecube on Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:37 pm; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : nagkamali ng type ng solution.)
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Re: F2L Comparison.
CROSS= z2 y R u R B' L' u L
1ST pair= R' U R B' U2 B
2ND pair= y' R' U2 R U2 R B R' B
3RD pair= U2 R U R' U R U' R' U R U R'
4TH pair= y' R U R' U2 R U R'
Ang pangit ng solve ko ang dami plang moves heheh
actual time: 18.11
time of fluent execution: 16.52
1ST pair= R' U R B' U2 B
2ND pair= y' R' U2 R U2 R B R' B
3RD pair= U2 R U R' U R U' R' U R U R'
4TH pair= y' R U R' U2 R U R'
Ang pangit ng solve ko ang dami plang moves heheh
actual time: 18.11
time of fluent execution: 16.52
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Re: F2L Comparison.
here's mine..
cross: x2 U F' D R' L D L
1. y' U R U R'2 U' R
2. U R U R' y' L' U L
3. U2 y L' U L
4. U' R U' R' U2 R U' R'
time of fluent execution: 16.66 sec.
kabagal...haizt..
cross: x2 U F' D R' L D L
1. y' U R U R'2 U' R
2. U R U R' y' L' U L
3. U2 y L' U L
4. U' R U' R' U2 R U' R'
time of fluent execution: 16.66 sec.
kabagal...haizt..
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Re: F2L Comparison.
Scramble with grin F yellow U
Cross: y' L F D' L B' R B D
1. L' U L U2 R U' R'
2. U' L U' L' U B' U B
3. U F U2 F' U2 F U' F'
4. U' R' U' R U R' U2 R U' R' U R
hehehehe... d q memorize f2l
Cross: y' L F D' L B' R B D
1. L' U L U2 R U' R'
2. U' L U' L' U B' U B
3. U F U2 F' U2 F U' F'
4. U' R' U' R U R' U2 R U' R' U R
hehehehe... d q memorize f2l
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Re: F2L Comparison.
y L R2 D R' U2 L B L U' L F2 = XCROSS ON YELLOW
U' B U B' U R' U R U L' U2 L R U' R' U F' U' F = ALL SIDES FILLED
U' B U B' U R' U R U L' U2 L R U' R' U F' U' F = ALL SIDES FILLED
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