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Post by rook5 on Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:05 pm

i'm using fridrich method and so far memorized 21 pll's and 7 oll's. problema ko lang po tlaga itong f2l na 'to Evil or Very Mad halos 31 secs. ako pag sa cross ksama ung f2l. any suggestions para lalong bumilis po ung f2l ko?

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Re: suggestions for faster fridrich f2l

Post by papplazy on Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:20 pm

I suggest that you learn how to search for what you are looking for. There are lots of threads regarding f2l and you have a whole world of information outside PCA. YouTube, google and what not. If there's a will there's a way. Kung gusto, may paraan. Anyway, Welcome to PCA I guess. Read and understand the rules and regulations. Cheers.

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Re: suggestions for faster fridrich f2l

Post by chaos2121 on Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:25 pm

oh my god meron pa isa e2 namn

use the search botton and if you want fast f2L look ahead ka paps

un lng para bumilis ka intuitive kz F2L eh

search ka sa youtube dami dong tutorial paps

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Re: suggestions for faster fridrich f2l

Post by laketahoe on Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:39 pm

practice lng sir...

read mo po muna ung rules and regulations b4 posting...


e2 po ung mga links....

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Re: suggestions for faster fridrich f2l

Post by papplazy on Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:48 pm

Okay di niyo parin nasasagot yung tanong niya. Kayong dalawa talaga, para kayong tag-team, and no that is not a compliment.

EDIT: I feel guilty. Inspite all of this. My apologies to rook5. You are very much welcome here. Look ahead,Plan ahead,think and practice like crazy. Dapat strategic ang approach mo sa pag build ng f2l. Di siya basta basta na "Oy ayun, may pair siya muna gagawin ko" If you take time to look at the motion of your cubies, you'll notice that as you build a pair, merong ibang pairs na nagkakalapit or minsan nagkakadikit pero nasisira ulit as you slot the current pair. You should take note of those "events" para magawan mo ng paraan na di sila magkalayo or magkahiwalay. Pair preservation...It takes a lot of practice to master f2l. Sorry talaga na sinita kita agad. Sana wag mo masamaain. Marami na kasing thread na humihingi ng "tips" at advice regarding f2l. Cheers.


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Re: suggestions for faster fridrich f2l

Post by cubecubecube on Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:01 am

rook5 wrote:i'm using fridrich method and so far memorized 21 pll's and 7 oll's. problema ko lang po tlaga itong f2l na 'to Evil or Very Mad halos 31 secs. ako pag sa cross ksama ung f2l. any suggestions para lalong bumilis po ung f2l ko?

practice ka ng 'recognition', 'look ahead', 'plan ahead' and 'prediction'. sa simula mahirap maintindihan kung ano ba talaga yang mga yan pero pag nasanay ka, gagaling ka na magspot ng f2l pairs. di mo magagawa lahat niyan pag hindi ka nag SLOW DOWN. practice lang ng mabuti, bibilis ka rin.


hoy, 1st post niya to. hindi na siya nagpost sa i exist, seryoso to sa pagcucube. wag niyo awayin. hindi naman siya nagpapaturo ng f2l ah? hindi din naman siya nagtatanong kung saang website makakakuha ng pll at oll?

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Re: suggestions for faster fridrich f2l

Post by kenoidz on Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:28 pm

chaos2121 wrote:oh my god meron pa isa e2 namn

use the search botton and if you want fast f2L look ahead ka paps

un lng para bumilis ka intuitive kz F2L eh

search ka sa youtube dami dong tutorial paps

man you sound like he's done a grave mishap..talk about getting bossy....anyways, rook5 try to do f2l with less facings..that's how JB and other fast speedcubers do it here in Cebu..And do try to solve f2l's on any side and any case...then try doing slow solves but consistent turns...they said it does help a lot

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Re: suggestions for faster fridrich f2l

Post by pcaMACKY on Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:38 pm

[/b]PAturo naman mag rubiks

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Re: suggestions for faster fridrich f2l

Post by Brian Nicole Uy on Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:49 pm

Recognition= The ability to recognize the colors of cubes.
Look ahead= The ability to see or predict the outcome of a maneuver.

One more, practice your F2L by solving the F2L way slowly. As in very slow, well not too slow.

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Re: suggestions for faster fridrich f2l

Post by Jricle on Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:54 am

i agree w/ brian.

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Re: suggestions for faster fridrich f2l

Post by ERRU on Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:27 am

Maybe you should learn every algorithm with your heart... ANd of course pratice, practice and practice...





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Re: suggestions for faster fridrich f2l

Post by carniel on Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:06 pm

chaos2121 wrote:oh my god meron pa isa e2 namn

use the search botton and if you want fast f2L look ahead ka paps

un lng para bumilis ka intuitive kz F2L eh

search ka sa youtube dami dong tutorial paps

tnx pow sa mga advice

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Re: suggestions for faster fridrich f2l

Post by carniel on Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:07 pm

tnx pow sa mga advice

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Re: suggestions for faster fridrich f2l

Post by rook5 on Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:41 pm

salamat kenoidz! siya nga pala ibig mo ba sabihin sa less facings ay?... at saka ok lang ba gumamit ng y rotations habang sinisolve ung isang f2l slot?

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Re: suggestions for faster fridrich f2l

Post by papplazy on Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:57 pm

Okay lang gumamit ng "Y" rotations sa f2l ayon sa mga pro. Actually, inevitable siya. While building your f2l, many suggest that you make as little "Y" rotations as possible. Rotations according to some are very costly and time consuming. Especially x's and z's. (pero di naman yun ginagamit sa f2l) Dito pumapasok ang prediction at mirrors. If you watch videos by pros such as Yu Nakajima, Harris Chan and etc, you'll notice that they barely make any cube rotations. It's as if they magically insert rear f2l pairs. I dunno how they do it, I am still yet to learn those "tricks".

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Re: suggestions for faster fridrich f2l

Post by jolo_mat2008 on Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:16 pm

i agree w papplazy..btw..harris chan is the master of f2l..LOL..so do try to search his videos..actually..he is the master of the fridrich method..he averages like less than 2 seconds per pll..simply amazing..try to search his pll time attack vid on youtube..Smile well..medyo off topic na sa f2l pero makaka2long talaga ang pagobserve sa videos ng mga pros..Razz

btw..i hear superken is amazing in f2l..Smile

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Re: suggestions for faster fridrich f2l

Post by kenoidz on Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:05 am

Philippine-wise, I suggest you try to see Bim's f2l...you'll see him slowly ang solve pero less facings then good look ahead...

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Re: suggestions for faster fridrich f2l

Post by superken on Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:01 am

jolo_mat2008 wrote:

btw..i hear superken is amazing in f2l..Smile

Wow. Thanks man. I`m not that good thought.
I do a little more cube rotations than most people,
I tend to start of slow, build up the speed for LL.

Look ahead, less moves, less cube rotations i guess is
all there is you need for good f2l.

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Re: suggestions for faster fridrich f2l

Post by Mr.Prince_X06 on Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:35 am

nice naman ken.,,

ang f2L nmn di katulad ng LL., memorization is really not important., ang importante magaling ka mag apply...,
nung una kasi akong ng f2l., wala kong kaalam alam sa notations nun., but when I tried to memorized it., nagult ako nung nakita kong halus lahat ng nandun sa notation eh gamit gamit ko.,

un lng po.,
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Re: suggestions for faster fridrich f2l

Post by Nube on Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:35 pm

Who uses cross on the left side? Is cube rotation especially x inevitable in this when doing f2l?

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Re: suggestions for faster fridrich f2l

Post by papplazy on Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:52 pm

Nube wrote:Who uses cross on the left side? Is cube rotation especially x inevitable in this when doing f2l?

Tomasz Zolnowski builds his cross on the left side, but I'm not quite sure if he builds his f2l sideways din. If you watch his video, you'll see that he has lotsa X rotations. Super dami kung titignan...Para niyang iniikot ikot yung cube tas biglang nabubuo nalang bigla. Rotations are inevitable but they should be minimized. Too much can cost you alot of time lalo na yung mga awkward na cube rotation.

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Re: suggestions for faster fridrich f2l

Post by jolo_mat2008 on Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:34 pm

superken wrote:
jolo_mat2008 wrote:

btw..i hear superken is amazing in f2l..Smile

Wow. Thanks man. I`m not that good thought.
I do a little more cube rotations than most people,
I tend to start of slow, build up the speed for LL.

Look ahead, less moves, less cube rotations i guess is
all there is you need for good f2l.

Happy Cubing!

Cheers,
Ken

madami ako nababasa matindi daw po f2l mo eh..kahit saang slot bigla na lang pumapasok ung f2l pairs..hehehe..Smile idol!!

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Re: suggestions for faster fridrich f2l

Post by strawberryshake on Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:46 pm

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i think u nid 2 practice more...

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also try to do the "looking ahead" thing

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that's what i'm doing to get faster and faster

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Re: suggestions for faster fridrich f2l

Post by testing101 on Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:31 pm

try nyo po mag slot kahit sa anong side without rotating the cube.. hehehe.. mirror the algos for the back.. yan muna kasi ang pinagpraractisan ko sa ngayon.. sana makatulong

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