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Post by bonoan1027 Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:26 pm

yung lumang method ni pochmann... masyadong mabagal... ano ang mas magandang pag-aralin?

what i'm looking for is fast in execution... not the blindfold fridrich method:P

kung OTHERS and na-vote niyo... sa'n pwedeng matuto?
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Post by Jome Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:38 pm

M2 R2 no doubt. Time of fluid execution, 40+ seconds lang. Kita naman dun sa M2 + Old Pochmann corners video ni Harris Chan yung bilis ng M2 eh, the same rin with the M2+COCP ni Alex Yu. Less than 20s tapos agad yung edges.
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Post by bonoan1027 Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:49 pm

Jome... m2 r2 ba ginagamit mo?Smile)
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Post by Jome Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:10 pm

No. Old Pochmann with some minor variations.
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Post by cupid Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:14 pm


..tina try ko ung 3 cycle tgal nga naman..
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Post by bonoan1027 Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:16 pm

ano mas mabilis pare sa edges? ung 1 by 1 M2 or 3 cycle

sinusubukan ko ngayon ay yung kay McWizzle94. m2 for edges tsaka 3 cycle for corners
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Post by Jome Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:27 pm

Yun rin naman gamit ni Alexander Yu eh. M2 + COCP. Pero ang 3-cycle, proven na naman na kayang mag-sub60 (Nakajima, as usual). So it's really just a matter of which is more comfortable.
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Post by van21691 Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:28 pm

Jome wrote:Yun rin naman gamit ni Alexander Yu eh. M2 + COCP. Pero ang 3-cycle, proven na naman na kayang mag-sub60 (Nakajima, as usual). So it's really just a matter of which is more comfortable.

Doesn't he use M2 too?
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Post by Jome Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:36 pm

Nope, he doesn't. Pure 3-cycle si Nakajima.
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Post by jusay_mitch29 Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:27 am

ei san makukuha ung m2 r2
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Post by isaganiesteron Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:19 am

i say fluid M2 is faster then 3-cycle, kase with M2 you would only have to think of the edge, while in 3 cycle you would have to think of how to set up the edges.. thats why 3 cyclers usually pause when doing edges.. pero great 3-cyclers have really mastered the setups so it fast as it is..
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Post by bonoan1027 Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:37 pm

jusay_mitch29 wrote:ei san makukuha ung m2 r2

go to stefan pochmann's site
http://www.stefan-pochmann.info/spocc/blindsolving/M2R2/

isagani... what about corners? r2 or 3 cycle?
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Post by bonoan1027 Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:58 pm

isagani, do you use M2 R2?Smile)
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Post by S a s o r i Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:55 pm

check nyo ung BLD ni jerome sa Video section...
kanina lang un sa Gateway cubemeet....
tignan nyo method nya ^^
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Post by bonoan1027 Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:11 pm

di ko alam pare:))
kasi parang nagawa niya ang corners at and edges sabay
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Post by jerjero Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:15 pm

i love 3 cycle.. sanayan lng sa 3 cycle...
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Post by isaganiesteron Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:00 am

bonoan1027 wrote:isagani, do you use M2 R2?Smile)

i dont use R2, i use 3 cycle corners and M2 but not pure M2, i still orient and pemute seperately..
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Post by pancho86 Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:07 pm

depende cguro sa nagamit yan, (parang ikinocompare ung fridrich sa petrus)... pero cguro M2 R2, kasi bihira ung set-up moves na iisipin...
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Post by bonoan1027 Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:12 pm

@pancho86

anong method ginagamit mo?Smile)
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Post by mape Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:45 pm

sa akin 3cycle
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Post by jr Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:57 pm

Sa akin hybrid M2 and 3-cycle for edges

Ang maganda lang sa M2 ay yung may wrong flip na edges
di mo na kailangang i-orient para gawing 3-cycle

For example: (9 12 8 2 5)
(9 and 12 are wrong flip)

(9 12 8 ) M2 method

12 - x' U' R' U M2 U' R U x
8 - U R U' M2 U R' U'

(9 2 5) 3-cycle

D' z - U perm clock - L

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Post by bonoan1027 Fri May 02, 2008 10:17 pm

If I'm gonna use M2 for edges... and 3 cycle COCP for corners...
my only problem is yung parity. how can i fix the parity?
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Post by pancho86 Sat May 03, 2008 6:32 pm

bonoan1027 wrote:@pancho86

anong method ginagamit mo?Smile)

3 cycle, as of now 1:3 success rate ko... around 5-10 minutes total time, bagal ko pa...
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Post by nEwo Wed May 07, 2008 4:00 pm

base sa mga replies nyu... botong boto kau sa M2R2 method... tingin nyu b ok n mgsimula ang isang noob sa bld n 2lad ko gamet ang M2R2 method? sa 22o lng 2x2x2 cube plng kaia kong iBLD..
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Post by bonoan1027 Wed May 07, 2008 4:03 pm

@nEwo

i think stefan pochmann recommended that his 1st method (2 cycle) should be understood first before going on to learning M2 R2. so yeah
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