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Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by erickjaja13 on Thu May 01, 2008 12:57 am

ano ba mas maganda at mas mabilis Roux Method or Fridrich Method?

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Re: Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by van21691 on Thu May 01, 2008 1:06 am


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Re: Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by kingpsyzor on Thu May 01, 2008 1:12 am

mron me kwento, this is about my classmate...

hnd sya speed cuber pero he knows how to do fridrich method... dati hnd sya mrunong mag cube tpos ngpaturo sya skin, then tinuruan ko ng fridrich..

after 3 weeks bumalik sya skin at nagulat ako kc 1:03 na agad best tym nya... tpos tinanong nya ko kung mron p daw ibang method pra masolve ung cube aside sa method n ginagamit ko (fridrich method) kc daw sobrang dmi ng klangan kabisaduhin, sbi ko nmn "OO meron pa iba" petrus at roux method..

pinakita ko sa kanya kung pano gumamit ng pertus at roux and ung roux ung mas nagustuhan nya.. sbi ko search sya sa net ng moves ng roux at nuod sya sa youtube ng mga tutorial...

and 3 days after nung tym na cnabi ko un sa kanya, guess wat sub 40 na agad sya... sbi nya mas ok daw sa kanya ung roux kesa sa fridrich.. naisip ko cguro nsa tao na lng tlga un kung saan sya mas mgiging comfortable..

best tym nya ngyon 30 sec.. 38sec ave. nya... 15 out of 40+ pa lng daw kbisado nya na algs ng roux eh..

pero for me fridrich pa din ako, kc dito na nsanay kamay ko... try to experiment bro, explore mo ung world of cubing... kung gusto mo mag try ka ng ibang method, kasi malay mo dun pla mag fifit ung taste mo dba.. ^^

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Re: Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by erickjaja13 on Thu May 01, 2008 1:23 am

@kingpsyzor
wow ok yun ah. na try ko na kasi yung petrus. naghahanap pa kasi ako ng mga method eh. fridrich din kasi gamit ko mga 4 wiks na ako nag cube sub 40 ako best tym 32. bagal di ba. wala lang gusto ko lang try ng ibang method para di boring. hehehe

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Re: Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by kingpsyzor on Thu May 01, 2008 1:27 am

@erickjaja: oh?.. blis ka nmn pla eh... pro cge try mo pa din iba method.. ^^

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Re: Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by S a s o r i on Thu May 01, 2008 1:37 am

pareho silang may 4 general steps....

kung mahilig ka sa slice... roux...
problema nito... sanayan sa umpisa... ung pagbuo ng 2x2x1 on opposite sides...

kung gusto mo naman ung mas popular... eh di cfop.. haha

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Re: Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by kingpsyzor on Thu May 01, 2008 1:46 am

@sasori: yep!!! tama un!!.. ^^

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Re: Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by meaty21 on Thu May 01, 2008 3:05 am

erickjaja13 wrote:@kingpsyzor
wow ok yun ah. na try ko na kasi yung petrus. naghahanap pa kasi ako ng mga method eh. fridrich din kasi gamit ko mga 4 wiks na ako nag cube sub 40 ako best tym 32. bagal di ba. wala lang gusto ko lang try ng ibang method para di boring. hehehe

4 weeks tapos sub40 na? wow. grabehan ah.

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Re: Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by kroz on Thu May 01, 2008 8:53 am

i never tried other method other than fridrich
waste of time kung pagaaralan ko pa other method
CFOP n nga lang di ko pa mamaster
hehehe...

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Re: Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by van21691 on Thu May 01, 2008 8:55 am

just like my friend. I thought him fridrich, well some of it. then he is currently using roux, thttp://pinoyspeedcubers.forumotion.com/cubing-videos-f6/decent-time-for-me-check-out-what-the-roux-method-can-do-t285.htm?highlight=roux
and he can solve it in less than 30 seconds.

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Re: Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by Brian Nicole Uy on Thu May 01, 2008 8:43 pm

Roux is not good for one hand cubing I guess because it often uses Middle Layer moves...
I got to sub40 in three weeks with F2L, 7OLL and 7PLL Very Happy

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Re: Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by erickjaja13 on Fri May 02, 2008 1:24 am

ano ba yung CFOP?

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Re: Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by van21691 on Fri May 02, 2008 7:51 am

CFOP-
Cross, first two layers, Orient, and Permute

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Re: Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by jhameel_killua03 on Sat May 10, 2008 11:31 am

CFOP rin po ako kc mas maraming pong gumagamit nun eh... pero di ko pa po master yung cfop method... ikaw po kung san ka mas komportable yun na po ang gamitin mo po... happy cubing...

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Re: Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by tungkel_08 on Sat May 10, 2008 9:18 pm

maganda poh ang roux

gamet q roux and petrus sa f2l koh.

sa LL

fridrich. pinakamabilis na sa LL ang fridrich eh

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Re: Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by Lloyd on Sun May 11, 2008 1:21 pm

nasa tao yan talga kung saan sya sanay

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Post by bluephoenix1993 on Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:37 pm

mas maganda ang roux... Iyon ang ginagamit q.. Mas mabilis aq nun kaysa sa CFOP ko...

Kaso lang ung ginagamit ko ay hybrid ng roux at fridrich... Ginagamit ko ung OLL at PLL ng Fridrich para sa pag.solve
ng corners... Natatamad kasi aqng mag.memorize nung mga bagong algorithms na nakita ko sa official website ni Roux eh...
Nag.isip ako ng paraan na magamit ko ung natutunan ko sa Fridrich... Nagamit q nga naman... Sa pagkuha ng dalawang 1x2x3 block Fridrich ung gamit q... May trick kasi ako sa first part eh... Ginagawa q ung Advanced X Cross ng CFOP method ngunit dalawa lang ung puting nilalagay q at ung dalawa naman ay yellow...Magkakatapat ung dalawang puti at sa dilaw...

Let me explain this... Sa cross nilalagay q ung blue-white edge at green-white edge sa tamang lugar... Ung naiwan naman para sa red at orange ay mga yellow edges kahit na hindi tama ang pares... Dahil dito, madali kong ma.identify ang mga bad edges na hinahanap sa step 4a dahil nakalagay sila lahat sa itaas di ba...

Pati na rin sa corners... Mukhang more than 5 at less than 10 OLL habang 2 PLL ang
nagagamit ko para sa corners...

Napapabilib ko nga ang mga kaklase ko dahil unang pagkakataon pa lang nilang makakita ng isang method na gumagamit
ng slices... Very Happy

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Re: Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by shiner on Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:48 pm


`FRIDRICH Method is still the best!! Laughing
`7moves (max) Cross.
`F2L, First Two Layers. (40+ cases atah./more)
`OLL, Orientation of the Last Layer (57 cases)
`PLL, Permutation of the Last Layer (21 cases)

`3x3x3 Cubes, 140 Quintillion Cases.. ^^,
`how much more ang 4x4x4, 5x5x5, 6x6x6, at 7x7x7 ??
` HaHa! lol!

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Re: Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by tungkel_08 on Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:53 pm

may bumuhay nung topic ah

ung sinasabi mo bluephoenix eh natry q na yan

kadalasan q nga na ginagamit na OLL eh nasa less than 10 cases

PLL aman konting cases lang din

karaniwan kasi saken pag ginmit q yung HYBRID roux,petrus,fridrich q eh ung edges na lang yung inaaus q pagdating sa last layer so konting cases lang and pauli-ulit lang yung cases. ndi q na kasi kelangan ausin pa yung mga corners dahil naaus q na yun sa simula p lang

isipin mo na lang bumubuo k ng cube pero una mong binubuo ung 1st and 3rd layer ng sabay then the second layer ung huli mong bubuuin PERO nakatayo meaning ung dalawang gilid ng cube muna bago ung gitna

GETTTTSSSSSS?!!!!?????!!!!!........

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Re: Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by DevilMayCry on Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:09 pm

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roux yan walang hybrid
sa CFOP ko 70 moves ako umaabot
for me roux has more potential to have sub 20 faster than CFOP
pero pag sub 15 na talo ang roux

sa mga roux users sana naintindihan nyo ito kahit konti

current time
ROUX sub 27
CFOP sub 24

and not to offend petrus users
petrus is not good with combination with roux

roux ay puro M,L,R slices
petrus L,U lang halos lahat kaya maninibago kamay niyo

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Re: Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by tungkel_08 on Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:23 pm

i think it depends on the cuber talaga

ndi aman natin pede sabihin n lang ng basta ganun un eh

ung "petrus is not good" or something

ndi sa kinokontra kita

pero nasa tao talaga yun ndi tayo pedeng magpredict ng ganun

comment lang.

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Re: Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by Syalang on Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:57 pm

hmmm.. the CFOP method is like reduction method that reduces the cubies that are needed to be located.

roux requires great look ahead because you need to search a lot more locations compared to fridrich...

the point here is that fridrich is somewhat user friendly and can improve times in a quicker manner especially when you memorize LL algs cases..

thats my idea...

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Re: Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by DevilMayCry on Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:04 pm

@ syalang
you are right
mahirap ang look ahead dahil kailangan mo talaga ng matagal na time sa pag look ahead

pero once nakita mo na ang mga pieces mabilis ang execution
especially sa part ng mga may M slices

@tungkel
petrus is a good method
pero mas maganda siyang i hybrid sa cfop rahter tahn roux
dahil sa mga finger tricks
and again it really depends on the user

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Re: Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by bluephoenix1993 on Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:12 pm

tungkel_08 wrote:may bumuhay nung topic ah

ung sinasabi mo bluephoenix eh natry q na yan

kadalasan q nga na ginagamit na OLL eh nasa less than 10 cases

PLL aman konting cases lang din

karaniwan kasi saken pag ginmit q yung HYBRID roux,petrus,fridrich q eh ung edges na lang yung inaaus q pagdating sa last layer so konting cases lang and pauli-ulit lang yung cases. ndi q na kasi kelangan ausin pa yung mga corners dahil naaus q na yun sa simula p lang

isipin mo na lang bumubuo k ng cube pero una mong binubuo ung 1st and 3rd layer ng sabay then the second layer ung huli mong bubuuin PERO nakatayo meaning ung dalawang gilid ng cube muna bago ung gitna

GETTTTSSSSSS?!!!!?????!!!!!........

Tama ka kuya... Ganun na nga... Mas madali kasi sa akin yun ehhh... keysa sa CFOP.... Yung huling paragraph ho... Iyan yung pagkaka.describe sa pag.solve ko sa cube... Okay lang ho ba yun? ,,

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Re: Roux VS Fridrich Method

Post by Syalang on Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:04 pm

hmm.. mas mabilis execution sa CFOP algs compared to the algs sa roux... more look ahead requirement thus slow improvement... pang FMC lang talaga yan eh

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