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Post by TheJoker on Thu May 08, 2008 4:54 pm

hey guys... just want to share... and i know some of you already knew/know about it...

pero about dun sa "Optimized First 2 Layers with cross on bottom"...

dito ako na amaze... sir pajodaep pointed me here to study about it... solving the case of F2L to any location... which he learn during his trip to cebu open 2008...

at ang laki ng tuwa ko... wowowoowow...

pero ako ngayon ko lang nalaman... na what i'm really doing is just exactyly what cubeloop.com's All sym F2L cases... kaya pala hirap me magrecognise cuz mahirap pala talaga recognition nun kasi you have to look at front, side and back for the cases... need a lot of practice... to recognise all the pattern... even try to predict it just by looking at the top (UP face)...

as the site says... the recognition is the hardest for this step... kaya pala hirap ako... pero kung masanay naman ako... it was a good result... wowowowoow...

so okay lang sa akin kung sub35 muna me... i'm currently practicing slow solve using a metronome...

grabe... bigla nabuhayan me ng loob... kala ko MATANDA na ako kaya hanggang sub35 lang ako... yun pala mahirap pala yun nasimulan ko...

tapos... eto pa... mga 60% ng algs na gamit optimized na pala... grabe... yun iba mahahaba pa yun algs ko... sa cubeloop.com grabe ang iksi na lang...

as you can see here sa video ko...

sub35... 2 set of 5 solves...
http://pinoyspeedcubers.forumotion.com/cubing-videos-f6/my-sub35-t3563.htm

and my personal best na navideo ko...
http://pinoyspeedcubers.forumotion.com/cubing-videos-f6/my-pb-2841-seconds-t3561.htm

nalilito talaga me at sinisilip ko kung asan na yun pair kung nasa likod ba or nasa gilid or nasa harap... then used kung saan sya malapit... pag yun pair malapit sa left side ng cube which is FL and BL... i used my left hand... kung malapit sa right side ng cube which is FR and BR... i used my right hand...

na ganun din pala sa cubeloop.com... wowowowo... sobra naman tuwa ko... practice na lang talaga me... PRAKTIS... hehehehehe... Very Happy:D:D:D

salamat sir PAJODAEP... thanks po talaga... pati narin kina sir JB at tinuruan nyo si sir PAJO dahil kung hindi di nya mapopost dito yun... kala ko hopeless na me sa sub35... may pag-asa pala talaga me... ipagpapatuloy ko tong nasimulan ko... kahit magtagal me... at least okay pala at yun ang gamit nina sir JB...

heheheheheheh... Very Happy:D:D:D

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Re: wowowow... cubeloop.com... F2L All Symmetry...

Post by jusay_mitch29 on Thu May 08, 2008 5:17 pm

predict looking at the top thats waht i do Very Happy lol haba ng post mo

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Re: wowowow... cubeloop.com... F2L All Symmetry...

Post by TheJoker on Thu May 08, 2008 5:59 pm

sobrang tuwa lang... napahaba tuloy... hehehehehehe... Very Happy:D:D:D:D

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Re: wowowow... cubeloop.com... F2L All Symmetry...

Post by pajodaep on Thu May 08, 2008 6:27 pm

yeah, ako naka-experience ng ganyan. 5 months, as in 5 months ako stuck sa sub-22, akala ko stuck na ako dun, then suddenly, i found cubeloop all symmetry, and learned about slow solving. after 3 weeks of slow solving and practicing f2l shortcuts, i got a sub-17 average of 12 haha. anyways, nakakainis lang sa simula pag nag-aaral ka ng ganito, kasi, babagal ka talaga muna ng sobra kasi you have to recall how to execute the algs, so medyo nakakadisappoint at mapapaisip ka na useless aralin. matagal bago masanay sa ganitong method pero worth it pag nakasanayan na.

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Re: wowowow... cubeloop.com... F2L All Symmetry...

Post by Syalang on Thu May 08, 2008 6:47 pm

waH!! kk lang po ba intuitive F2L? nasanay na kc ako eh... recognition nalang ata kulang

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Re: wowowow... cubeloop.com... F2L All Symmetry...

Post by pajodaep on Thu May 08, 2008 6:52 pm

Syalang wrote:waH!! kk lang po ba intuitive F2L? nasanay na kc ako eh... recognition nalang ata kulang

ok lang ang intuitive F2L. Some of my F2L's before were intuitive. some of my intuitive algs were similar to cubeloop algs anyway. kaso, eventually, pinalitan ko din yung ibang mahahabang intuitive f2l ko with cubeloop algs kasi at the end of the day, mas maikli at mas maganda pa ring pangfinger tricks ang optimized algs. for the meantime, you can go on with intuitive f2l, and one more thing, practice doing intuitive f2l from all angles.

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Re: wowowow... cubeloop.com... F2L All Symmetry...

Post by bonoan1027 on Thu May 08, 2008 7:05 pm

@pajodaep

what would you prefer? the symmetry algs or yung ginagawa ni Harris Chan (turning d/d' for f2l instead of the symmetries)

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Re: wowowow... cubeloop.com... F2L All Symmetry...

Post by neonblues on Thu May 08, 2008 8:41 pm

nahihirapan ako sa f2l...

although kaya ko xa gawin intuitively at yung me algs

di ko parin ginagawa kasi antagal ko...hehehe

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Re: wowowow... cubeloop.com... F2L All Symmetry...

Post by Syalang on Thu May 08, 2008 8:48 pm

thnx pajodaep... wahhh!

aus advyz

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Re: wowowow... cubeloop.com... F2L All Symmetry...

Post by darkviper28 on Thu May 08, 2008 9:48 pm

Nice.. Uhmm question po.. ok po ba talaga metronome.. ? Meron kasi ako dito.. gamit ko siya everytime na practice ako ng guitar.. pwede din pala sa cube? .. hehe

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Re: wowowow... cubeloop.com... F2L All Symmetry...

Post by Syalang on Thu May 08, 2008 9:54 pm

sa timing gamit daw nun eh...

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Re: wowowow... cubeloop.com... F2L All Symmetry...

Post by TheJoker on Thu May 08, 2008 10:51 pm

pajodaep wrote:yeah, ako naka-experience ng ganyan. 5 months, as in 5 months ako stuck sa sub-22, akala ko stuck na ako dun, then suddenly, i found cubeloop all symmetry, and learned about slow solving. after 3 weeks of slow solving and practicing f2l shortcuts, i got a sub-17 average of 12 haha. anyways, nakakainis lang sa simula pag nag-aaral ka ng ganito, kasi, babagal ka talaga muna ng sobra kasi you have to recall how to execute the algs, so medyo nakakadisappoint at mapapaisip ka na useless aralin. matagal bago masanay sa ganitong method pero worth it pag nakasanayan na.

thanks po marami... now i know why... kung bakit hirap na hirap ako sa recognition... yun pala... what i'm doing is some advance F2L na pala... di ko po alam yun... pero marami na me napagsabihan at nakakita sa f2l ko... like emz (hunter357) and mark (kingpsyzor) and joey/nowi...

minsan nalilito me kung kaliwa ba gagamitin ko or Y2 gagawin ko... pero okay na me... nabuhayan me ng loob dahil sa inyo sir pajodaep...

i'm doing an advanced f2l pala... so matagal na progress pala talaga eto... masyado ko kasi minamadali eh... hehehehehhe... Very Happy:D:D:D:

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Re: wowowow... cubeloop.com... F2L All Symmetry...

Post by Syalang on Thu May 08, 2008 11:14 pm

paano ba talaga yang slow solving?

naintindihan ko lang ung literal... may iba pa bang mining?

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Post by pajodaep on Thu May 08, 2008 11:32 pm

bonoan1027 wrote:@pajodaep

what would you prefer? the symmetry algs or yung ginagawa ni Harris Chan (turning d/d' for f2l instead of the symmetries)

i've never heard of harris chan's method. he's very fast, but i'm not really a fan of mr. chan. so, i can't answer that.

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Post by pajodaep on Thu May 08, 2008 11:36 pm

Syalang wrote:paano ba talaga yang slow solving?

naintindihan ko lang ung literal... may iba pa bang mining?

Slow solving or 'Stress' solving. Please go to the f2l training/metronome thread under the videos section. i think i explained it enough there.

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Post by kingpsyzor on Fri May 09, 2008 2:32 am

tingin ko aabutin tlga ako ng lagpas 2 months sa sub30... =(

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Post by nEwo on Tue May 20, 2008 6:32 pm

nakalito nga lng kung magcu2be rotation k or u will gona do f2l symmetry kpg nkita m n ung pieces... pero dis really help my f2l although some are already used be my.!!waheheh

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Re: wowowow... cubeloop.com... F2L All Symmetry...

Post by jolo_mat2008 on Tue May 20, 2008 11:20 pm

pajodaep wrote:
Syalang wrote:waH!! kk lang po ba intuitive F2L? nasanay na kc ako eh... recognition nalang ata kulang

ok lang ang intuitive F2L. Some of my F2L's before were intuitive. some of my intuitive algs were similar to cubeloop algs anyway. kaso, eventually, pinalitan ko din yung ibang mahahabang intuitive f2l ko with cubeloop algs kasi at the end of the day, mas maikli at mas maganda pa ring pangfinger tricks ang optimized algs. for the meantime, you can go on with intuitive f2l, and one more thing, practice doing intuitive f2l from all angles.

sir..i use intuitive f2l...kakapraktis..natuto na akong magslot sa BL and BR and FR and FL slots..so..all angles naman..ganun po ba ang all symmetry algs?:O or should i switch immediately to cubeloop algs? average ko ngaun is unstable sub 30..i know 7 olls and 10 plls..average ng f2l ko is around 18-21 seconds..plz help sir..tnx! btw..nagppraktis din ako gamit metronome..Smile

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Post by mark12 on Wed May 21, 2008 2:43 pm

excuse me pero ano po ba ung metrpnome im sub 35 and all my algs are intuitive ^__^ please answer my question and ano po ung cubeloops?site or something sorry for my questions ASAP please

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Post by creiven* on Wed May 21, 2008 3:56 pm

same Lng tau???

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Post by jolo_mat2008 on Wed May 21, 2008 4:38 pm

mark12 wrote:excuse me pero ano po ba ung metrpnome im sub 35 and all my algs are intuitive ^__^ please answer my question and ano po ung cubeloops?site or something sorry for my questions ASAP please

metronome..un ung parang device na nagcclick na constant ung time between clicks..ang gagawin mo..one move per click nung metronome..para masanay ung look-ahead sa f2l..Smile search mo sa google : online metronome

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Post by pointzero on Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:02 pm

gusto ko sa cubeloop multisloting ^_^

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Re: wowowow... cubeloop.com... F2L All Symmetry...

Post by jettyboy1 on Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:48 pm

pointzero wrote:gusto ko sa cubeloop multisloting ^_^

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let me repeat this again. i know that you want to say that you like the multislotting tutorials of the site, but it is unnecessary when you're not going to contribute anything at all. if you want to make a personal comment, please, keep it to yourself. if you actually have something to contribute and you think someone might reply after your post, then do so. but just not the posts that are not needed in some old thread. thank you.

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if you're not contributing to an old thread, then don't even post anything.
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