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For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by bonoan1027 on Fri May 09, 2008 12:34 am

One of my biggest problems in speedcubing is being able to solve the cross xCross on the D layer instead of doing it on the U layer and having the flip the cube over.

for those who do it on the D layer, any tips?Very Happy


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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by meaty21 on Fri May 09, 2008 12:40 am

so, u make or cross on top i suppose? just try locating pieces with, for example, pieces of white cross on D layer. just keep practicing i guess, sorry kung parang wala akong natulong. hahaha.

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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by bonoan1027 on Fri May 09, 2008 12:58 am

@meaty21

ayos lang. de joke. sabi mo keep practicing eh:))


average ko of 5 solving the cross at the bottom is 25.69. i have to work on this more.

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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by yoingcuber on Fri May 09, 2008 1:13 am

hello po,..

i'd like to help,

kasi dati i solve the cross on U face,
pero nagtrip lng ako na gawin yun cross sa D face,..
cguro for 1 day, nasanay na ko,..
keep practicing lang po tlga,

ganto po kasi style ko, pag Yellow center on top,. sabi ko sa utak ko,
R-G-O-B(counterclockwise) = Red-Green-Orange-Blue(counterclockwise)
ganyan yung formation ng center pieces, then locate isa-isa yung edges na White/Red , White/Green, White/Orange, White/Blue.

ako tnitignan ko kung anu yung pinakamdaling ilagay sa D face,tapos insert ng insert n lng,. practice lng po tlga,.

sana kahit papano nkatulong ang baguhang tulad ko, goodluck po,..

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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by TheJoker on Fri May 09, 2008 1:15 am

praktis po talaga yang cross on the bottom... tapos know the color scheme... tapos try to solve it habang nakapikit... wala munang timer... praktis lang po ng praktis...

try intuition on this one... hanap ka ng possible move na 7 or 8 moves or less... puwede din naman humaba as long na madali lang execution... sa umpisa lang mabagal...

in my case... 4-6 seconds consisten and stable cross ko sa bottom... 7 or 8 moves nasusunod... pero minsan umaabot ng 10 moves pero 4-6 seconds pa rin...

pero yun mga mamaw dito... 2 seconds lang cross nila... pag pinapanood mo nga video nila kala mo di sila nag-cross dumaan eh... parang pag binilang mo... limang (5) F2L ang ginawa nila... heheheheheheh... Very Happy:D:D:D:D

i stress praktis the cross on the bottom... tapos nakapikit me palagi... pagkatapos tingnan mo kung tama... pag mali ulit uli... hanggang ngayon nagpaparaktis pa rin me ng cross sa bottom... gusto ko kasi mga 2 seconds na lang eh...

hehehehehehehe... Very Happy:D:D:D:D

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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by iruel117 on Fri May 09, 2008 1:15 am

memorizing your the colors of the cube by heart kunyari white cross ka tapos front =red left= blue right= green back= orange
front=blue left=orange and so on..........

+ practice

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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by pepesmith on Fri May 09, 2008 1:28 am

tama c master iruel... memorize ur color scheme by heart... saka mahirap kasi ngaun mo plng ibebeat ung hobby mo n top cross.. pero mabilis k nmn khit top cross ka eh hehehe cguro sanayan lng din

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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by bonoan1027 on Fri May 09, 2008 1:37 am

@lahat kayo:))

helpful stuff:>
madali lang pala ito:))

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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by bonoan1027 on Fri May 09, 2008 1:56 am

I edited it. It was silly of me to ask about something that's simple pala:)). how can you solve the xCross on the D Layer:>

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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by jusay_mitch29 on Fri May 09, 2008 8:16 am

me! me! me! i use xcross on the D layer, i also can do it ar U layer also at the L layer kaso ndi komportable... wahahaha... what tips can i give its just how you do it and how you practice it that counts...

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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by Jome on Fri May 09, 2008 11:07 am

Meh. May simpleng method si Erik na napansin ko dito. Ilalagay niya three edge pieces sa U face, isa sa D face, then r2 dun sa may tatlong edge pieces. Tada! Instant D face cross. Wala nang awkward na pauses para mag-z2 move or x2 or whatever.

Sisiw lang naman ang bottom cross, mapa-xCross man yan o cross lang. Woot.

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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by jestoni143 on Fri May 09, 2008 6:04 pm

learn petrus edge-fixing method...

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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by chaos2121 on Fri May 09, 2008 6:16 pm

ganon din ung gngwa ko 3 sa top tpos meron 1 sa D layer hehehe

pero meron ka dapat chain moves hahah sarap ng ganon eh

hehehe practice lng ng practice

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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by RanieLCuber on Sun May 11, 2008 12:42 am

petrus edge-fixing method...?

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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by bonoan1027 on Sun May 11, 2008 4:35 pm

@Jome
i do that na:))

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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by jr_orata on Sun May 11, 2008 9:17 pm

xcross? so, extended cross ka na.? ahmm, ang alam ko, ung iba, 2x2 muna using petrus system tapos saka ilalagay ung dalawang edge to form cross, pero mahirap pa rin, more than moves na siya.

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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by bonoan1027 on Sun May 11, 2008 9:26 pm

i dont like petrus fixing eh. parang masyadong mabagal. i try as much as i can to get the cross while picking up an f2l pair

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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by jusay_mitch29 on Sun May 11, 2008 9:58 pm

wahahah.. pumunta dpat kau meet kanina... hehehe... willing pa naman akong ituro kung pano ako mag xcross

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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by greatauror28 on Sun May 11, 2008 10:13 pm


the first time i cube i do it on the U layer..
then i switch to bottom-cross
it wasn't easy adjusting...
it takes a lot of practice...
and you must know the correct color scheme like...
white bottom, front blue, right red, left orange and so on...
bottom-cross is an advantage when looking ahead in F2L...

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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by Dizzy on Sun May 11, 2008 10:51 pm

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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by jusay_mitch29 on Sun May 11, 2008 10:58 pm

hmmm... first i look for the easiest to construct(i'm color neural)... second while looking at it i solve it in my mind... tada.. you have your preinspection Very Happy... normal cross is just what normal cubers would do in which i average 4 sec pero hassle sa pag hahanap ng 1st pair... xcross is extended in whixh a f2l pair is already inserted into its proper position... making it easy to locate the other pairs... on xcross i average on 4-6 sec okay lahn ung ganun kasi nakaka make-up naman sa paghahanap ng 1st pair na pede i pasok

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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by iruel117 on Sun May 11, 2008 11:54 pm

@Offtopic:
Dizzy wrote:What is the the diferrence between the normal cross and the x-cross?

What do you usually look for during the 15 sec inspection time?

My PB in cross is 4 sec. and I never did it again.My average is 8-12 sec.
The worst scenario for me is if there is no first layer edge piece that is matched or near with the center piece of the second layer.


ow that mde me think. clear the higlighted txt pls. or vids cause im too confused of what u said. Is that ur 3x3x3 average or ur average on cross??
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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by Dizzy on Mon May 12, 2008 1:50 am

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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by bonoan1027 on Mon May 12, 2008 2:04 am

@jusay_mitch
i tried to be color neutral pero i realized white is my favorite color:)) de joke. nakaka confuse ang color neutral para sa akin eh:P i average around 3-4 seconds sa cross/xCross kasi sabi ni Jessica Frids na ideally the cross is supposed to be done in at least 2 seconds so na-priority ko yung cross ko habang nag-aaral ng cubing

@Iruel
sa'n ang cubemeet bro?

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Re: For cubers who solve the xCross on the D layer

Post by bonoan1027 on Mon May 12, 2008 2:06 am

@Dizzy
the cross is *alam mo na*
the xCross or the extended cross is while you build the cross, you manage to slip 1 ( or maybe more) f2l pairs in during the process

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