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Post by jolo_mat2008 on Fri May 23, 2008 11:05 pm

@ jhameel : wala pa kong nakikitang magandang vid eh..medyo nahihirapan ako intindihin mga vid kc nd nila masyadong ineelaborate ung pagbuild ng 2x2x2 block..pag may nakita ko ipopost ko dito link..Smile

onga po pala .. @ bonoan : gumagamit ka ba ng x cross?Smile diba sub 20 ka?Smile

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Post by engcube on Fri May 23, 2008 11:43 pm

e try mo bro sa cubingtechnique.com site ni nakajima may cross pattern xa tapos di mo lang maintindihan kc japanese language... hope this could help you... happy cubing...

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Post by bonoan1027 on Fri May 23, 2008 11:47 pm

jolo_mat2008 wrote:
onga po pala .. @ bonoan : gumagamit ka ba ng x cross?Smile diba sub 20 ka?Smile

For normal 2 handed solve... di ko pinipilit like what kuya John told me sa Cebu Open... ginagawa ko yun kapag may oppurtunity

pero pag OH, xCross is a must. well...at least for me it is a must

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Post by kingpsyzor on Sat May 24, 2008 12:43 am

natry ko na ung xcross from petrus method pero inabot me ng 8 sec.. mas mtagal compare sa xcross ko dati na 6 sec lng.. hmmm...

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Post by neonblues on Sat May 24, 2008 10:33 am

hirap siguro nun...

hehehe

cguro pede yun sa mga devil dito...

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Post by jusay_mitch29 on Sat May 24, 2008 11:17 am

ngek.. sino ung mga devil na un??

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Post by jolo_mat2008 on Sat May 24, 2008 11:54 am

engcube wrote:e try mo bro sa cubingtechnique.com site ni nakajima may cross pattern xa tapos di mo lang maintindihan kc japanese language... hope this could help you... happy cubing...
ahaha nd ko rin maiintindihan un kung nd mo maintindihan..i dont speak japanese..Razz

@ kingpsyzor : mas matagal xcross mo using "petrus"? anong klaseng xcross building po ba ginagamit nyo? ung 6 seconds lang?Smile un po ba ung nd ka na bubuo ng 2x2x2 block? diretcho agad sa cross+1 f2l? wahehe..labo ng tanong ko..sana magets nyo..Smile

@ jusay : baka ibig po nyang sabihin eh yung mga halimaw na magcube dito sa pca like superken jb canares pajodaep jerjerom jome jettyboy etc..Wink

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Post by jusay_mitch29 on Sat May 24, 2008 12:09 pm

ah... gawa din kaya ako ng tuto ng pagconstruct ng 2x2 block... tingin nio?

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Post by Syalang on Sat May 24, 2008 12:29 pm

cno ba ang gumagamit ng xcross sa mga haLimaW?

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Post by jusay_mitch29 on Sat May 24, 2008 12:36 pm

si jb ata...

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Post by jestoni143 on Sat May 24, 2008 2:37 pm

Uh, di naman nakakalito stickers ng nasa link.. actually dyan nga ako natuto na vid. petrus user ako and i use multi cros pero di pa pulido, okay din gumawa ng 2x2x2 tutorial, intuitive naman kasi un, superloo ahead in 15 sec preparation pwede mag 2x2x3 with xcross agad. hay...

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Post by jolo_mat2008 on Sat May 24, 2008 2:42 pm

jestoni143 wrote:Uh, di naman nakakalito stickers ng nasa link.. actually dyan nga ako natuto na vid. petrus user ako and i use multi cros pero di pa pulido, okay din gumawa ng 2x2x2 tutorial, intuitive naman kasi un, superloo ahead in 15 sec preparation pwede mag 2x2x3 with xcross agad. hay...

waw 2x2x3 w/ cross? haha..super x cross na un..Smile well..ewan ko lang pero tingin ko baka masyado matagal ang pagbuo ng 2x2x3 w/ cross..mas sulit pa gumawa ng x cross tapos insert one f2l pair then another then another..Smile gawa ka din ng tuto for x cross! gusto ko manuod ng madaming tutorials eh..gusto ko po talaga malaman..what do you look for during inspection time? what part of the 2x2x2 block do you build first? then what? mga ganun ba..Smile ka kung tutuusin..kaya ko namang mag xcross pero MATAGAL..gusto ko makabuo ng x cross using minimal moves and of course minimal time..Smile

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Post by kmcruz09 on Sat May 24, 2008 4:16 pm

Kung 2x2x3 block + cross, double xcross yun. Seryoso nasa cubefreak.net un. http://cubefreak.net/glossary.html#D
Yan. Pero mahirap siya gamitin kasi it requires great look ahead. Kaya mas advisable ang simpleng xcross.

Medjo bumibilis na ko sa pagbuo ng xcross, pero hindi parin diretso. 2x2x2 block tapos yung 2 edges. Pero mukang makakatulong sakin to na makasub 20. Hehe.

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Post by jolo_mat2008 on Sat May 24, 2008 4:32 pm

wah..sana gumawa din ng tuto ung mga mamaw na magxcross..gusto ko kc ung detalyado..kung ano tumatakbo sa isip nila habang nagiinspect 4 15 seconds...Razz wah sir JB CANARES! request naman ng video tuto ng x cross..Smile

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Post by jestoni143 on Mon May 26, 2008 3:23 pm

the fundamentals of xcross are in the petrus site.... learn petrus instead....if you want the basics of xcros..

@ jolo_mat2008

on inspection time:
look for the first two steps of petrus... (2x2x2 and 2x2x3) pieces..

during 1st to 4th turns (on 2x2x2 building):
look ahead for optimum algs/solution for the 2x2x3 pieces...
you may prepare the 2x2x1 in preparation for the 2x2x3 while finishing the 2x2x2 on the 5th and 6th turns.. (2x2x2 requires 6 turns max)
do 2x2x2 under 4 sec..

then... execute the 2x2x3 WHILE inserting the last 2 edges for the double-cross (xcross) (on the f2l layer)... pwede ring while finishing 2x2x3 eh gumagawa ka na ng 2x2x1 para sa 3rd f2l pair... doing this male-lessen na sa 4 bad edges ang multi-cross mo... xcross is basically fixing multiple bad edges in petrus method...

then..finish fix the edges (xcross) while inserting the last pair of the f2l... you'll end up in a 7 COLL cases.. and there are 270 cases in all to solve last layer in cross orientation... advance petrus na un... breakdown kasi ng zbll ung petrus true LL...

PERO... you can do xrcoss agad while finising 2x2x2... apply fridrich algs na for speedsolving...

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Post by jolo_mat2008 on Mon May 26, 2008 8:48 pm

@ jestoni : tnx po sir..Smile magaaral ako ng x cross pero cguro ipopostpone ko muna ung pagaaral ng grabehan..focus on cross na lang muna..kc nalinawan na ko dahil dun sa thoughts ni sir jome on x cross..di pa nga cguro advisable na aralin ang x cross..pero tnx din po sir sa info..balang araw babalikan ko yang mga yan..Smile

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Post by jusay_mitch29 on Mon May 26, 2008 9:09 pm

WTF i now avrg 3 sec on 2x2 block with or w/o pair... i had improved ^_^

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Post by jolo_mat2008 on Mon May 26, 2008 9:52 pm

@ jusay..waw bilis na..average ko sa cross mga 4 seconds ata eh..:O

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Post by jusay_mitch29 on Mon May 26, 2008 9:54 pm

hehehe thx... avrge un sa 2x2 block lahn ndi kasama ung edges na 2... pero pag normal cross i avre about 3.xx pag maganda 2 lahn

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Post by jolo_mat2008 on Tue May 27, 2008 9:04 am

jusay_mitch29 wrote:hehehe thx... avrge un sa 2x2 block lahn ndi kasama ung edges na 2... pero pag normal cross i avre about 3.xx pag maganda 2 lahn

aw..bilis na...kainggit..dibale praktis lang yan..Razz

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Post by jestoni143 on Thu May 29, 2008 11:15 am

update:

do 2x2x3 + 2xcross uder 13 sec.... ave ko palang 15 sec eh. may delays pa na 2 sec, wala ako look ahead kasi sa 2xcrpss... ave un....

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Post by dotdotdot on Fri May 30, 2008 10:01 pm

hm...di ba ung x cross un ung nasa vid ni kuya jome?...hm...kung di raw kaya wag raw pilitin..^^...

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Post by jolo_mat2008 on Fri May 30, 2008 10:04 pm

yun nga un...yup..ill follow sir jome's advice..mag x cross lang kung may obvious at easy to execute x cross..Razz

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Post by jusay_mitch29 on Fri May 30, 2008 10:36 pm

indi advisable ang 2xross ambagal gumawa ng 2x2x3 ha... waste of time ate ndi mo din makikita ung 2x2x3 sa 15 seconds of preinspection... nyweiz i thought this thread was dead already

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Post by jolo_mat2008 on Fri May 30, 2008 10:40 pm

onga akala ko din tapos na ang usapan ng xcross.Razz haha..nasabi na lahat ni sir jome sa thread nya lahat ng dapat malaman..so mods..pwede na po cguro iclose tong thread na to..Smile everything people need to know about x cross can be answered by sir jome's thread..Very Happy

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