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Post by xarfax1105 Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:27 am

hello im a lone cuber here in Cabanatuan and i wanted to start a cubing community here.. currently i have 3 future cubers under my wing XD.

anyway i find it hard to get other people's attention because they keep thinking that i cant solve the cube, my average is still at sub50 after all Sad
im still learning cfop and i really dont get the f2l algorithms and there are like 41 of them >_< can anyone give me some tips on which one i should learn first? thanks in advance ^_^

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Post by punzki Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:07 pm

Welcome to PCA!

What do you mean "they keep thinking I can't solve the cube"? Akala ko sub-50 ka na? Smile That's already a good start!

As for F2L, sorry wala akong matutulong diyan... But really from what I hear, it's more intuition. You don't really have to memorize them... just study them and learn the concepts behind the way they work.
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Post by isaganiesteron Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:50 pm

xarfax1105 i can give you some tips on f2l... i like to use cubestation.co.uk for algos, so ill refer to that website.. through experience i think the most important f2l cases are the F and R cases (in the cubestation.co.uk website) start out learning those cases, i suggest learning one case, then its mirror.. F cases are mirrors of R cases and vice versa.. f2l a pretty important part of solving becuase unlike OLL and PLL you just dont see a pattern and execute the algorithm.. i suggest going really slow when learning f2l and really watch what the pieces are doing.. fridrich said that optimum time to execute the f2l is in 8 seconds after the cross, when i was first learning it in march 2007 i was so frustrated because i was actually solving it slower then when i was just using beginner f2l, but after you get the hang of it you will shave seconds of your times.. hope that helps...
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Post by MetaboringJohnCañares Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:15 pm

I agree with them. You don't have to memorize the algs for the f2l, understand them, learn where the pieces go. Only then you will surely get how to do the f2l. Sites I advise: www.cubestation.co.uk / www.solvethecube.co.uk
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Post by xarfax1105 Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:47 pm

Thank you very much for the replies ^_^

punzki- lagi kasi nila tinatanong kung nabuo ko na yung cube, or at least the few people who spend a minute or two of their time watching me, most of them just look then leave that's why i want to learn cfop fully

isaganiesteron- so if i study case#F1, i should study #R1 next?

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Post by jbcañares Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:50 pm

welcome!

don't memorize all the F2L algs, just understand each cases. remember F2L is really the most important part of the Fridrich Method so you have to put a lot of time on this step. good luck!
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Post by mrvivi80 Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:54 pm

here's some algo!! .. the no. case#24 ,29,36,41 those case no. makikita mo sa cubestation.. ,, you should understand how to conjunct or to make joined pair or how to separate a 2 cube piece to create joined pair and then apply those case no. algos ..

(y') R' U' R
R U R'
U R U' R'
d' L' U L

ayan po yung mga algo .., usage po nyan is to insert the the two paired cube pieces in empty slot corners
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Post by mrvivi80 Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:56 pm

para po sa intuitive F2l po yan

--- Thanx po kay Tine Doktor... for guiding and teaching me Intuitive F2l
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Post by xarfax1105 Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:45 pm

mrvivi-thanks for the algs ^_^ but umm what's intuitive F2L?

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Post by mrvivi80 Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:11 pm

hehe ok lang po ^_^... uhm intuitive .. di po yan method ,, ang intuitive po.. your own intuition,., or prediction.. kung san pupunta ang mga pieces.. ng cube... basta po .. pag aralan nio po kung papano guamwa ng paired piece and then perform mo yung algo pere it depends sa cases ,
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Post by isaganiesteron Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:50 am

xarfax1105 wrote:

isaganiesteron- so if i study case#F1, i should study #R1 next?

yeah, becuase it is its mirror.. then F2 then R2 and so on..
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Post by xarfax1105 Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:23 pm

Thank you berymuch for the replies everyone ^_^ although i'm still a bit confused about how to pair up corners with edges i am making good progress with f2l.
by the way, are you guys going to particpate on october 7?

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Post by bim_mijares Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:15 pm

i learned about 12 f2l cases then i configured the remaining 24 algs. it is advisable that you configure your own f2l algs because the algs you come up with are easier to memorize and will fit your cubing style.
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Post by jettyboy1 Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:12 pm

what gani said. learn how the cube moves. haha.
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Post by xarfax1105 Fri Sep 14, 2007 11:51 am

learning f2l was harder than i expected, spent almost all day yesterday learning cases and trying to make my own algs but it was worth it even though i have a headache today XD

mr bim_mijares do you have any tips on configuring f2l algs?

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