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Post by luxyz Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:58 pm

kuya allan, anu ba ang front at top mo?

kunwari ibase natin sa yellow top green front..

dba ung buffer ung DF? kunwari green-DF-red ang nandun.. edi ilalagay mu sya sa FL.. e ung nkapwesto sa FL, Blue-FL-Yellow, ngaun pag nlagay mo sya sa UB, ang mngyayari ndi sya oriented dba?.. pano mo ba minememo un kung ang nkalagay sa UB ay Orange-UB-Green, den sa FR ay FR ay Blue-FR-Red?? bka sa pagmememo po ang prob.. pra mlaman mu kng nsan ung ntitirang ndi oriented..

siguro ganto gwin ko pagmemo dun, FL-UB(ndi oriented), RF-LB.....
try mo ilagay lagi sa M layer ung ndi oriented..
ewan ko din, ndi pa nmn ako ngmm2., d ako mkapagpraktis eh.. mgshishift plng pag ngkatym..
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Post by kingpsyzor Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:31 pm

@Jr: nice meeting u din bro.... ako yata judge mo sa halos lhat ng solves m sa RCPO2k8 eh... hehehe.... ^_^ bangis ng BLD ko... gulat ako... ^^
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Post by TheJoker Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:48 pm

@jr...
kasi pag di nyo ni shoot sa ibang slot... i always end up in a loop sa M slice... paikot ikot lang me kahit alam ko kung yun center ko ba eh oriented o hindi...

ert_anjo suggested an algs pero kung nasa gitna ka pa lang cycle tapos may iba pang edges sa ibang slot... parang di tugma... pero kung yun tatlo na lang ang natitira puwede yun algs...

pero may ginagawa na me solusyon... break the chain then create one kung yun two succeeding edges ay parehong sa M slice... break ako ng chain sa second edge on M Slice... then create one...

okay naman sya... kaso yun nga sometime i ended up in two edges sa M Slice not oriented... although alam ko kung paano sila i-orient... di ko lang marecall sa memo ko na when i break a chain un-oriented pala silang lalabas... yun na lang siguro praktis ko sa memo...

@luxyz...
old pochman po kasi gamit ko sa edges... 2 cycles sa corner... sa old pochman... mapa edges or corners... walang orientation... meaning pag shoot mo sa corner or edge correcrt na po yun... per sticker kasi ang memo ng old pochman... sa corner since 3 sticker... 3 din setup moves per corner... at ganun din sa edges... 2 sticker sa edge... 2 din setup move per edges...

sa m2... which derive from old pochman method... lumalabas ang parity... 2 edges unoriented (minsan 4 which very very rare sabi ni pochman himself)... ang problema ko... after the chain of cycle sa edges... di ko matrace kung may oriented ba akong edges o wala...

i found my mistake... sa pag break ko ng chain... kasi nga magkakaproblema ka talaga sa M2... kung ang natitirang edges or may 2 consecutive edges falls on M slice... lalabas ang parity... which i can't recognize sa memo ko when i break the chain...

praktis na lang siguro... i like M2 kasi super bilis... grabe... hehehehehhehe... Very Happy:D:D:D:D
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Post by ert_anjo Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:12 pm

haha.,

tama kuya allan.,

break the chain kz ganun din gingawa koh.,

uu praktis nlng.,

sana nga mkabuo n ako totally blinfolded.,

kz gnagawa ko per corner,.

pag ngawa ko na corner.,

memo n sa edge ulit.,

dun ako hirap.,

hayyzz sana nga,.
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Post by TheJoker Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:54 pm

okay na... mali lang pala center ko kaya di ko matrace M slice... found a M2 Tutorials...

been using it for a while... grabe... almost perfect sa bld... since friday wala pa me DNF... although memo took about 4 mins... okay lang... since i change my BLD...

from 2 cycles corners to OLD POCHMAN corner...

from OLD POCHMAN edges to M2 edges...

so far wala pa me DNF... at ang bilis... i average 1:12.45 seconds in 3 solves... only execution... my memo sucks for the moment... pero overall... i'm very satisfied of this...

practise na lang... kasi hirap talaga me sa 3 cycle... eh yun world record holder sa BLD... OLD POCHMAN (corner) / M2 (edges) gamit... pareho na kami...

kaya lang memo nya 15 seconds... hehehehehehhe... Very Happy:D:D:D:D
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Post by luxyz Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:30 pm

anu tutorial npanuod mu sa m2? penge link! hehehe

tas panu ba ung old poch corners?^^

hangang ngaun last bld solve ko nung competition pa.. Sad
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Post by S a s o r i Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:51 pm

luxyz wrote:anu tutorial npanuod mu sa m2? penge link! hehehe

tas panu ba ung old poch corners?^^

hangang ngaun last bld solve ko nung competition pa.. Sad

Ericlimeback on youtube...
he has videos on how to do M2 on edges..
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Post by wawaivory3415 Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:41 pm

Yup!!! Old pochmann Y-perm for corners...
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Post by luk Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:37 am

wawaivory3415 wrote:Yup!!! Old pochmann Y-perm for corners...

grabe wawa BLD na talga..haha..^_^.
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Post by wawaivory3415 Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:51 pm

@luk

Aheh
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Post by luxyz Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:32 pm

mron po ba kayo alam kung san ko mkikita ung algs ng old poch corners bukod sa y perm? ung mga advanced algs po..^^ ung tipong hndi na mxado mdami set up moves..hehe

prang gusto ko kasi itry kung ok saken ung walang CO.. bka kc mas comfy ako dun..^^
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Post by kenoidz Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:40 pm

luxyz wrote:mron po ba kayo alam kung san ko mkikita ung algs ng old poch corners bukod sa y perm? ung mga advanced algs po..^^ ung tipong hndi na mxado mdami set up moves..hehe

prang gusto ko kasi itry kung ok saken ung walang CO.. bka kc mas comfy ako dun..^^

To clarify lang bro, the Old Pochmann Corners uses only Y perm and set-up moves of course, if it uses other algs other than that it's another story...also, i believe na masmadali ang memo ng old pochmann corners coz you would only memo permutations and no other else...that means less things to memo, although some find it quite hard since a corner could have 3 possible permutation tendencies...but if you would dive deep into it you would find that it has less things to memo...and about the set-up moves, if you analyze it deeply you'd observe that the set-up moves are quite fast and that they could be done intuitively...when i started learning the old pochmann corners, i just have to learn and understand 2 or 3 setup moves and others are done intuitively...and lastly, you could modify the old pochmann corners method by using another PLL/alg which switches 2 corners and 2 edges, you just have to remember how to do the setup moves and fix the parity if it may occur
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Post by jr Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:12 pm

try ninyo yung freestyle corners commutator
mas mabilis pa sa old pochman pra siyang 3 cycle w/o CO
few moves siya
ikaw mismo ang gagawa nang ALGO
search ninyo nalang sa youtube
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Post by luxyz Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:40 am

honga no.. ok un ah.. kaso di naman nia nilagay ung algs..T_T
baka naman my list kana nung algs jan papost nlng..^^
prang ang hirap isetup ng ganun..

ganun na ba ginagamit mo jr? mdali ba syang gamitin o pag ginamit mo sya mejo matagal ang pause dahil iisipin mo ung next pieces and alg na gagamitin?
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Post by jr Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:00 pm

ikaw mismo ang gagawa ng algo
wala siyang set up moves
yung concept lang ang alamin mo alam mo na lahat ng cases
yun ang pinapractice ko ngayon
alam ko na lahat ng cases

kung sanay kana at alam mo na yung lahat ng cases
wala kang pause or bihira ka lang mag pause
im sure sub 10 sec lang ang corners mo pag gamit mo 'to

saka ko na ipo post yung my own new method for edges
I think mas mabilis siya sa M2 and turbo method
di ko nga alm kung ano itatawag ko rito hehehe
suggest naman oh
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Post by luxyz Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:39 pm

oh? cge pagaralan ko yan pagkatapos ko praktisin ung bagu ko method sa edges..

anung method yang edges mo 3 cycle pden? may orientation ba?
ung bago ko din ambilis din.. kaso may orientation..
bka mmya parehas tau method sa edges..hahaha
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Post by shiner Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:24 pm

waaa. grabeh ung freestyle corners.
mdyo madami mga dpat i.memo. ^_^
hihi. niwey, thnx.
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Post by jr Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:19 pm

wala siya orientation
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Post by shiner Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:44 pm

onga2`
uhm, pde ask?
iLan ba dapat lahat ime2o mo?

uhm, La atang sound ung vid. sa freestyle
s u`tube.. 0_o?
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Post by jr Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:01 pm

3 line visual lang naman ang i memo mo
mahirap pa ba i memo yun?
sanayan lang yun
memo ko sa corner sub 10 sec
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Post by shiner Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:11 pm

ahh. ganun. ^^
thnx2.
pero parang mahirap pdn.
xeh ung vid, lang sound,.
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Post by jr Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:23 pm

yung concept lang kasi iniintindi
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Post by shiner Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:27 pm

ahh.. i see `2x.
well, salamat again.
uhm, nakuha mo nba ung FreestyLe na
method pra sa crners?
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Post by jr Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:57 pm

dati pa pinapractice ko na lang mabuti para mag sub 1 min na ko
sa BLD
kasi ubos oras ko sa orientation
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Post by shiner Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:10 am

ai. onga noh. tsk2`
dali2 lng ng freestyl eh.,
Lang days mo prnaktce? ^^
niwey, saLamat tLga, try ko t0h
ths monday.

uhm, noh nga ba gamit mo sa edges?
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