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Post by n6i1c9o Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:12 pm

ang bagal ko talga sa cross.. nagpapause pa ako...
paano po ba ung mabilis na paggawa ng cross?? Shocked Question tska ano po ung Extended Cross?
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Post by pajodaep Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:12 pm

according to mat, "an extended cross is when you make the cross and one f2l slot all at once. its doing a 2x2x2 block plus 3 cross edges at the same time."

di ko pa kaya ang extended cross. only experienced cubers like mat and jb i think can do the extended cross. it requires a hell lot of preinspection and recognition ability.

for starters like me, i think it's okay to prepare at most 3 blocks lang muna for the cross. ako, on the average, hanggang 3 blocks lang talaga ang limit ko sa paggawa ng cross without thinking anymore. (when lucky, i get to insert all 4) then, while inserting the 3 blocks for the cross, look for the 4th block for the cross. then plan for the first edge-corner pair. good recognition really helps if we want to achieve sub-20. and i'm working hard on it right now. ;p
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Post by n6i1c9o Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:41 pm

you got a point. i need to improve my cross making and F2L too.... ang slow ko pa... 15 to 20 secs ko nabubuo F2L.... gotta work hard for it.

btw, thanks for the info about extended cross. parang ang hirap gawin nun ah.. hahaha "Cross na may isang F2L slot all at once".
pero parang ang sarap aralin kasi pag nalaman mo na ung sikreto nung move na un, ang bilis mo ng matatapos ung cube.. hehe
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Post by onisgam0324 Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:04 am

hehe!!!
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Post by thyng Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:20 am

ako ang bagal ko din sa cross..
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Post by onisgam0324 Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:23 am

ako nga rin, yan ang pinag aaralan ko ngaun ung cross ko, bgal kc eh hehe!!!
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Post by thyng Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:34 am

sir onis pano ka mgarrange ng cross nasa ibabaw or ilalim? ano ba best hehe..
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Post by craxmile Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:20 am

you should be familiar w/ your color scheme.
you should limit your moves up to 8 moves max for the cross.
its always possible to do the cross in 8 moves or less.
solving the cross from the side or bottom would be the best.
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Post by jerjero Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:11 am

i do bottom.. just break the top cross habit it takes a very long time to shift and see f2l pairs when turning ur cube upside down..
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Post by jerjero Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:12 am

my cross averages about 2 to 3 seconds... yep craxmile made an excellent point there color scheme familiarity gets u to fast cross making...
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Post by thyng Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:17 am

I see, ok I'll try doin it at the bottom..
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Post by n6i1c9o Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:12 pm

mas maganda ba kung sa bottom ka bubuo ng cross? kc ako sa left side eh... Very Happy
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Post by pajodaep Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:17 pm

pareho lang yan. same lang ang time ko sa pagsolve ng cube na nasa bottom at nasa left ang cross at f2l. medyo tatagilid lang ang ulo mo pag sa left and cross kasi karamihan sa mga pieces na hinahanap mo ay nasa right.
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Post by pajodaep Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:18 pm

pareho lang yan. same lang ang time ko sa pagsolve ng cube na nasa bottom at nasa left ang cross at f2l. medyo tatagilid lang ang ulo mo pag sa left ang cross kasi karamihan sa mga pieces na hinahanap mo ay nasa right.
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Post by jettyboy1 Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:16 pm

my advice is to study how the cross pieces move around so you can find the fastest way to execute the cross. and i also suggest when practicing, you should try doing your cross without looking at the cube or eyes closed (helps your speed and memorization and execution of cross)

AND "making the cross is an art form"

haha. Neutral
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Post by n6i1c9o Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:08 am

thanks for the advice Very Happy
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Post by onisgam0324 Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:25 pm

i need to practice...and practice....and practice hehe!!!!
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Post by n6i1c9o Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:09 pm

onisgam0324 wrote:i need to practice...and practice....and practice hehe!!!!

practice makes perfect!! Very Happy
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Post by pajodaep Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:58 am

oh yep. practice lang talaga ang kailangan. normal din na ma-stuck tayo sa ilang averages for a while pero eventually malalampasan din natin yun through practice.
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Post by hopelessvain Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:50 pm

i'm stucked at sub24. though my cross takes me for 6 secs last month. but it is now down to 4 secs. experience is your best teacher. sanayan lng yn. tama yung mgpractice na nakapikit while making a cross. mg-iimprove tlg after doing that. practice lng tlg ang katapat nyan lahat.

my next step is making my f2ls fast. bumabagal xe ako dahil sa mahirap na recognition.
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Post by n6i1c9o Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:40 pm

need to improve my cross making n F2Ls too.. stuck parin ako at sub30... practice practice practice! try n try again..
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Post by hopelessvain Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:35 pm

yup. that's the attitude!
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