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Need Help with F2L (intuitive)

Post by jOms on Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:08 pm

Yung F2L ko eh intuitive.. tapos sobrang nag coconsume nga time.
Less than 2 months palang ako nag cucube.

Ung cross ko naman.. mejo nag iimprove.. kaso ung F2L lang talaga..

55 secs. ang average ko.

at almost 30 + seconds ang Cross + F2L ko... Hay.. need help. gimme some tips.

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Re: Need Help with F2L (intuitive)

Post by sirian23 on Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:11 pm

Attend ka sa mga cubemeet! tapos paturo ka sa mga masters

hmmm... memorize din some F2l Algorithms sa look ahead lng then praktis!

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Re: Need Help with F2L (intuitive)

Post by ert_anjo on Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:12 pm

praktis lng yan dude.,

look ahead lng cguro yan.,

ako nga intuitive e sub25 f2l ko.,

mgslow solve ka rin para sa look ahead at sa recognition moh.,

un lng poh

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Re: Need Help with F2L (intuitive)

Post by dong on Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:16 pm

pareho lng tayo ng problema....pero praktis lng talaga ako rin din lampas 50secs ung ave ko..pro ngaun medyo nag-improve ng kaunti..sub45 na ave ko..intuitive din f2l ko..naiisip ko na rin minsan magmemo ng algs sa f2l pero natatamad pa ako kaya mgtitiis muna ako...praktis lng oras oras ng f2l para mg-improve pa ako..

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Re: Need Help with F2L (intuitive)

Post by pangungusap on Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:21 pm

here's jason baums(on of the fastest cubers around) take on intuitive vs. algo based f2l..

http://jmbaum.110mb.com/f2l.htm

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Re: Need Help with F2L (intuitive)

Post by thirdrecords on Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:29 pm

look ahead+ visit the friendly youtube will surely cut your solving time Smile

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Re: Need Help with F2L (intuitive)

Post by i.luv.cube on Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:27 pm

kaya nga intuitive eh diba? You need to find a way to lessen the moves or even though it takes 10+ moves, at least it could be less time consuming.. You can also check the F2L algs, then look at it when you need to, then execute it. Repeat it over and over until your brain memorizes or analyzes it.. Somehow, mamememo mo yung movements, getz? Sakin kasi ang halos na memo ng mind ko is the first 3 to 5 algs ng F2L, kung mapapansin niyo po kasi yung first 3-5 ay yung pag dikit ng pairs, the rest ay yung pag insert lang. Based on my experience, that's what I have done, now I need to learn other F2L advanced algos, phew...

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Re: Need Help with F2L (intuitive)

Post by wowie on Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:23 pm

Practice lang yan. Pareho lang tayo he. Kamote minsan ako sa x + F2L. Kada praktis ko ng F2L at x nagiging 20-25 seconds ko na yun. Kaya nasosolve ko minsan ang 3x3 ng 30+ seconds kung alam ko yung OLL and PLL hehehe. Praktisin mo kasi kaw din makakaalam ng mga shortcuts dun eh.

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Re: Need Help with F2L (intuitive)

Post by jOms on Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:58 pm

ah.. uu nga. akin ung pag insert ng pairs ang memo ko ang algs.

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Re: Need Help with F2L (intuitive)

Post by jOms on Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:01 am

Ah. sabagay. mga 1 and a half months palang naman ako nag cucube eh. tapos mga serious 3 weeks palang. wish me luck nalang. Very Happy haha

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Re: Need Help with F2L (intuitive)

Post by shamdrin99 on Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:14 am

ganyan din ako dti sobrang bgal mg f2l..pero prinaktis ko lang tlaga ung f2l slowsolve and nagaral ako ng sum of the algos....praktis lang bblis ka nyan.. gwin mu din 2 look ahead plagi..

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Re: Need Help with F2L (intuitive)

Post by luigiyotoko on Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:36 pm

just keep practicing

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Re: Need Help with F2L (intuitive)

Post by omarismyname on Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:03 pm

magconcentrate ka siguro muna sa mga cases na umaabot ka sa 10 or more moves. tingin ka f2l algs ng cases na yun para marerealize mo yung mga unnecessary preparational moves mo

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Re: Need Help with F2L (intuitive)

Post by Syalang on Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:15 pm

search ka sa net.. try mo algs ni nakajima sa f2l.. pwd rin sa cubeloop.. chek move counts and effeciency... den if comfy ka, kunin mo!

slow solve mo lang..

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Re: Need Help with F2L (intuitive)

Post by javi2dmax on Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:51 pm

ako din ganyan mga 30-50 secs anf f2l ko tapos last layer ko mga10 -20 secs

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Re: Need Help with F2L (intuitive)

Post by ni09ne on Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:15 pm

ahm..search mo po sa youtube ung kay badmephisto n advance cross..tapos sa f2l po slowsolve..wag k muna magtime..gawin mo lang cross+f2l n slowsolve..tapos dapat pagiinsert mo n ung last edge ng cross mo hanapin mo n ung 1st f2l n iinsert mo..slowsolve po and look ahead...mga 100+ n solve in 1day..tapos after a week mo n itime..ahehe..it works po promise!

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Re: Need Help with F2L (intuitive)

Post by jOms on Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:21 pm

I want to thank everyone!

Nabawasan ng 5 seconds ang average ko..

I know it's not that good, pero it still is an achievement for me.

Ung mga tips nyo ang sinunod ko ng tuluyan..


Look Ahead and Slow Solve <--- the best! Very Happy

THANKS GUYS! THANKS PCA.

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Re: Need Help with F2L (intuitive)

Post by DevilMayCry on Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:12 pm

okay lang yan pero practice lang talaga

sa inspection hanapin mo muna yung cross
tapos first f2l pair

ako 16 secs ang f2l pero nakakaubos talaga ang pll ko eh

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Re: Need Help with F2L (intuitive)

Post by luk on Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:32 am

yup... yan lng talaga ang secret nyan..hehe.. look ahead and fast executions..^_^.

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Re: Need Help with F2L (intuitive)

Post by DORAEMON on Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:49 pm

slow moves=look a head= fast solve

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Re: Need Help with F2L (intuitive)

Post by jettyboy1 on Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:20 am

DORAEMON wrote:slow moves=look a head= fast solve

for F's sake. HAVE YOU NOT READ WHAT OTHER PEOPLE SAID ABOVE?
why are you restating this if it already has been RESTATED FOR AT LEAST 2 TIMES?! are you trying to conclude this topic for the 3rd time??! are you bored??? then post SOMEWHERE ELSE. don't restate something that someone else has already said. THINK RATIONALLY. and i'm not just only talking about you. but many others too.

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READ IT. ALL YOU OF YOU. don't just scroll past it and leave. READ IT.

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Re: Need Help with F2L (intuitive)

Post by ViNZsters on Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:38 am

practice and solve the in multiple angles.

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Re: Need Help with F2L (intuitive)

Post by wawaivory3415 on Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:29 pm

uhMmm...

Maganda talaga intuitive..You should find your own para comfortable.. Recommended yung triggers..

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