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Re: Benefits of slow solving?

Post by pajodaep on Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:12 pm

i think the best answer to this is that 'slow solving' is the KEY TO REACHING SUB-15. stefan huber said that with full fridrich (even without using advanced algorithms), sub-15 can be achieved gradually**. (yes, i've been seeking advice from stefan huber). I can eloborate further on 'why' this happens but some might find it hard to assimilate this through text. (i think i already posted a thread concerning this, but i guess it's prohibited to bring up old threads.) So here's the deal, why don't you guys try out slow solving for a while, and see what happens. You'll understand what i've been meaning to say. If still, nothing happens, try metronome, it'll keeps you on your comfortable pace.

** I can't attest to this yet. I'm only sub-16, and i used so many advanced f2l algs. But take stefan's word for it.

remarks: i categorically agree with marc_rendl. The optimum effect of slow solving is achieved if you are around sub-25 and have memorized ALL (again, ALL) algorithms.

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Re: Benefits of slow solving?

Post by ViNZsters on Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:18 pm

[quote="pajodaep"]i think the best answer to this is that 'slow solving' is the KEY TO REACHING SUB-15.

diba it will cost or lost you many secs. bakit makaka sub 25 parin???
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Re: Benefits of slow solving?

Post by cupid on Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:39 pm


slow solving can help u see ur pairs easily..
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Post by ViNZsters on Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:05 pm

@cupid
so mag slow solve ka lang pag f2l para makita ang pairs yun ba???
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Re: Benefits of slow solving?

Post by pajodaep on Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:14 pm

[quote="ViNZsters"]
pajodaep wrote:i think the best answer to this is that 'slow solving' is the KEY TO REACHING SUB-15.

diba it will cost or lost you many secs. bakit makaka sub 25 parin???

i meant slow solving as a 'drill' or 'training.' of course, during competition, you have to use your normal speed. slow solving is a good warm-up during competition. for example in my case, if i want to like really improve, i go with a week of slow solving averaging around 20 seconds, or sometimes extra slow solving averaging 30 seconds (without doing normal pace solves for a while). then, once i go back to my normal speed, i can see an improvement say, from 17 to 15.xx averages.

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Re: Benefits of slow solving?

Post by trane2122 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:04 pm

Slow solves is cool. Di ka kasi na iistress pag ginagawa mo. Razz i average 20.xx sa slow solve and 22.xx sa normal solve. haha. ewan ko ba. ambot. and pb average ko sa slowsolve is 19.xx. iba talaga ang slow solve. pero dapat sa f2l ka lang mag slow solve ha. Razz
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Re: Benefits of slow solving?

Post by cupid on Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:23 pm


@vinzters
not literally for f2l use lng ung slow solve.,
pro most of the time slow solving is for faster pairs recognition..
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Re: Benefits of slow solving?

Post by nanzkie31741 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:14 am

Yep.. slow solving makes better color recognition..
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Re: Benefits of slow solving?

Post by Russell on Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:18 am

ok nga yung slow solve.. bago lang ako sa speed cubing.. Para sa akin lang, mas ok yung fixed color ka sa position ng cube mo, starting from Cross then F2L.. Like ako.. pinag-aaralan ko na laging front ko yung red simula sa inspection for cross at at hanggang sa f2L.. hanggat maaari walang cube rotation,, at mas mabilis yung recognition kung fixed colors yung pagsolve mo..
Habang nasa Slow Solving ka, mas mabilis mo matandaan mga
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Post by nanzkie31741 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:22 am

Yup.. thats right russel.. kaw ba ung nasa friendster group?
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Re: Benefits of slow solving?

Post by babycherles15 on Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:19 pm

...yun pla yun^_^ pag sobrang bilis m, na i_stun k prin pgdting sa f2l kc di m na alam qng alin ang susunod na pair eheheh yun nga ang problema q m try nga. wahaha slowly but surely huh^_^
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Re: Benefits of slow solving?

Post by dhee on Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:38 pm

slow solve and look ahead!
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Re: Benefits of slow solving?

Post by Guest on Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:46 am

i get it..
by slow solving, nakakabuo ako ng bagong algo for f2l na mas madali...
nakakagamit na din ako ng empty slot..
hehe..

ndi ko pa rin makuha yun look ahead..
anyway, nag improve ako ndi dahil sa bumilis ang kamay ko, kundi nakakagawa ako ng fewer moves..
dahil lang yun sa slow solve..

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Re: Benefits of slow solving?

Post by ni09ne on Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:18 pm

ang look ahead po eh nangyyri pag my iniexecute kn..halimbawa, my nakta k ng unang f2l pair pagkatapos ng cross mo, while executing that pair(the 1st pair) eh my time k ng tumingin sa isu2nod mo..in that way naglo2ok ahead kn..for me kac ngccmula ako mglook ahead d lang sa f2l..d b my 15secs inspection time?while executing the last edge(im talking bout the cross) you can start looking ahead..looking for the 1st f2l pair..ganun din sa last f2l pair..look ahead k n kung anong OLL ang lalabas..hope naintindihan nyo..
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OLL first :)

Post by tigereyes on Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:10 pm

RanieLCuber wrote:yes PLL first before OLL's

ok lang yung panghuli na ang pll
kasi pll is easy than oll pag 2 look

mas maganda memorize muna 2 look OLL+2 Look PLL
saka memorize lahat ng OLL
sabi nga sakin ni Erik A.(WR holder)
OLL is easier than PLL.. only more algorithms..ito ang message niya sakin
"Hi I saw your message on my profile,
for improving your F2L I suggest looking at this part of my website: ( http://www.erikku.110mb.com/F2Lalgo.html (I hope the link works)).
Basically make sure you don't stop turning and don't do many moves if you don't have to.
OLL is just straight-forward learning algorithms, just like PLL. I think OLL is easier to learn only it is more algorithms. The patterns are easier and the algorithms are easier. Mostly you can look at the algorithms like: 'get this F2L pair out, do these 3 moves and then solve that F2L pair', or: do this then put this piece there with these moves, break them up and then let that corner go there'. That's how I mostly learned it but you will have to make your own things that will help you remember the algorithms.
Good luck!
if you have any other questiosn it's easier to do on MSN, AIM or ICQ if you have it."

yun sinaulo ko lahat ng OLL(10 more oll remaining)
pero unfortunately memorize ko na lahat ng PLLbago dumating ang message niya.
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