How long would it take to be sub 20?

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How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by patrickjason91 on Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:08 am

Tanong ko lang po kung gano katagal bago k magkaroon ng sub-20 average
kasi my current average is sub-25, and im already using fridrich for 4 months

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Re: How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by ViNZsters on Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:26 am

naka hindi totoo yan kasi kailangan nang weeks para matoto ang lahat nang algorithms.

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Re: How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by ni09ne on Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:46 am

it takes time para maging sub20..it takes a lot of practices..tapos dapat slow solve..im not yet sub20..pero inconsistent..halos parehas tau ng prob..sub21 ako..and 4mos speedcubing din..d nmn bglaan ang pagiging ganun eh..si nakajima kac..gifted tlga..saka adict..ahehe!

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Re: How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by crazymrk on Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:47 pm

ViNZsters wrote:naka hindi totoo yan kasi kailangan nang weeks para matoto ang lahat nang algorithms.
dpende po s tao yan kung gano sya kgaling mg memo at gano sya k dedicated s ginagawa nya... look at nakajima wla n ata ibang ginawa un s buhay nya kung hindi mg-cube eh hehe Smile

syang nga at # 2 nlng sya ngayon s WCA(3x3x3 single) pero sya n ngayon ang #1 s OH (3x3x3 single)

@ topic practice lng and hard work Smile

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Re: How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by j0ey on Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:06 pm

2months c nakajima bagu nging sub 20 hndi 2days OA nman

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Re: How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by shirosaki on Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:16 pm

oo nga.. daming factors to consider e, it varies widely..
take for example..
u need to have the right cube for your cubing style,
learn the whole fridrich/other system,
optimyz,
lots of free time,
practice gazillion times..
and you need special skills to achiev such great leap or short cut if you may call it to achiev sub-20 in the shortest posible time..
skin mtatagalan pa bgo mka sub 20 d ko pa tpos OLLs e,
busy..
c nakaji nka sub-20 in 2 mos n sub 15 in 5 mos..
pro take the best example, c kababayan Durben the Wonder Kid
nka sub-15 ave in 3 mos!

dpat pa akong mg learn sa lahat ng mga mamaw dito,
salamat tlaga sa forum nto dami kong natutunan.. so..

practice lng nang practice.. ciao!

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Re: How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by nerub_07 on Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:47 pm

c nakajima kasi nde na ata ng aaral,,(di ko sure..hehe)

fast learner lng talaga sya,at very interested nya sa speed cubing,,kumbaga ayaw nya patalo sa iba..

teka,,bat naiba ung topic,,hehe Laughing

happy cubing to all

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Re: How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by Syalang on Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:53 pm

depende kac yan eh... memo mo kc lahat kung gus2mo

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Re: How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by Brian Nicole Uy on Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:55 pm

The fastest improver i know in the philippines is Durben, he was sub 25 on his 2nd month. and after three months he became sub15. I don't know how he still have his fast times even though in a competition and his timeline of improvement is way faster than mine.
This is my timeline of improvement:
1st day, learned first layer
2nd day, learned 2nd layer
3rd day, learned to orient and permute last layer
7th day(1st week): 2 minutes(my first timed solve)
2nd week: 1 minute and 40 seconds(still using the beginner's method) and I started learning the Fridrich First Two Layers, 7 cross cases on the OLL and the 4 edge and 3 corner PLL.
1st month: SUB-40 Very Happy (I started learning the remaining PLL"s except for the N's)
2nd month: SUB-30(28.xx seconds) I started planning more F2L shortcuts
3rd month: SUB-25(Started learning some more OLL's and the N permutations
4th month: SUB-20(19.77)(started learning more OLL's
5th month: 18 seconds average(started learning extended crossing but I still rarely do it until now and partial edge control)
6th month: 17 seconds average(Learned all OLL's except 6 of the "No edge oriented Cases")
7th month: 16 seconds average(slow solving)
8th month: 15 seconds average(slow solving)
Last week I had a 14.72 seconds but I am not sure if it is consistent...

Now what will I learn???? I have to learn to relax during a competition!! Very Happy

So all those who have fast times, don't forget to learn to relax because during the Philippines Open, my time was brought down from 15 seconds average to 19 seconds average because of nervousness and my Philippines Open average is slower than the Cebu Open average that I had because in the Cebu open, there were fewer audiences...

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Re: How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by strawberryshake on Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:04 pm


it depends upon you nmn eh
kung ganu mo kabilis
na memo ung mga algs
ung pg fingertricks mo
ung execution
(parehas ln ata un)
un...
bsta it takes tym

depende sa cuber yan

hehehe
Very Happy

cubemore cguro...

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Re: How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by dotdotdot on Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:04 pm

hm...meron si kuya pajodeep guide para sa mga stuck on averages...search mo lng..^^...nandun mga factors at kung pano mo maiimprove ung times mo..^^...

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Re: How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by charles_13 on Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:25 am

practice lang ng practice!
un lang..hehehe..
o kaya i-memorize mo lahat ng OLL and PLL algs..
depende sayo yan..

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Re: How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by patrickjason91 on Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:40 am

charles_13 wrote:practice lang ng practice!
un lang..hehehe..
o kaya i-memorize mo lahat ng OLL and PLL algs..
depende sayo yan..
actually i memorized all PLL,
and memorized almost 40 OLLS...

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Re: How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by ni09ne on Sun Aug 10, 2008 12:11 pm

ngak..ako nga 57olls/21plls and some advance f2ls n eh inconsistent padin..u cant rush things kac..u have to be patient..and if u really want to be sub20 asap..work hard..i mean cube more..

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Re: How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by kenoidz on Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:40 pm

Technically speaking, it would take you only 19.99sec the very least to make it to sub20...hehe

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Re: How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by luigiyotoko on Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:01 pm

its been 1 month of speedcubing for me...sub 46 ako..

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Re: How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by Death213 on Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:03 pm

kailangan ba talagang ma-memorize lahat ng OLL at PLL para lng maging sub20??

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Re: How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by omarismyname on Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:21 am

Death213 wrote:kailangan ba talagang ma-memorize lahat ng OLL at PLL para lng maging sub20??
malaking tulong yon. pero yung iba nakaka sub 20 kahit 2look OLL

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Re: How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by crazymrk on Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:34 am

Death213 wrote:kailangan ba talagang ma-memorize lahat ng OLL at PLL para lng maging sub20??
PLL i think oo kailangan with OLL like what omar said pwede mka sub20 khit 2 look OLL ang gamit

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Re: How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by jestoni143 on Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:37 am

i am a petrus user, at medyo mahirap para sa mga gumagamit ng petrus ang sub20 in short span of time since we limit ourselves to algs used in actual solving...

but currentl, i am sub23 in 7th month today... at aroung 5 hours of cubing at night since on the 3rd month (working kasi)...

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Re: How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by prettyzel^daep on Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:04 pm

well, obviously, iba-iba ang pace ng mga cubers. but, on the average, i think that with constant practice, and constant alg memorization, most cubers can be sub-20 in 3-6 months kahit hindi pa saulado lahat ng OLL, as long as memorized na ang f2l at PLL algs. there are also other factors such as the natural skill of the cuber(there seems to be a genetic attribute), and age(it seems that younger cubers/teeners have more time to practice than working adults, and their brains are still more active and energetic), my big brother (pajo) told me so. he's 23, and he's been having a difficult time keeping up with the younger cubers with his work, and other stuffs around. he started cubeing more than a year ago, and he's not satisfied with his progress.

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Re: How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by charles_13 on Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:23 pm

patrickjason91 wrote:
charles_13 wrote:practice lang ng practice!
un lang..hehehe..
o kaya i-memorize mo lahat ng OLL and PLL algs..
depende sayo yan..
actually i memorized all PLL,
and memorized almost 40 OLLS...

ahh ganun...
edi practice nalang...hehehe...
nakakatulong din yung quality ng cube...
kung may lock ups ba o wla..

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Re: How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by Brian Nicole Uy on Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:35 pm

Harris Chan always average 15 seconds when he was completely doing two-look OLL, so don't get discouraged:)

But when he completed his OLL's, he improved to 12-13 seconds.

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Re: How long would it take to be sub 20?

Post by patrickjason91 on Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:31 pm

i've been having solve which are sub-20, i think 1 sub-20 out of my 20 or 30 solves, and ive memorized all PLLs and 40 OLLs, but my main problem is i'm not that very consistent in getting sub-20 so my average is then stuck at sub-25,

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