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Re: Petrus users and getting fast!

Post by jestoni143 on Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:16 am

@ omarismyname:

i am not color netral, i can work with any color schemes, though i have to adjust from one color scheme to another (around 1 to 2 solves before i feel comfortable enough)....

.... it is quite absurd that some cubers say that petrus is a 3LLL method, we say "nah, everybody keep saying that, especially those who don`t know petrus method"... it only has 2 look, but have better approach to 1 LLL by combining steps COLL+PLL in one go... petrus has probably the best aproach to zbll. kasi naka subgroup na ang lahat ng cross cases for the last layer... at sa petrus site naka group narin ang mga cases... two look pa rin gamit ko, can`t absorb the 270 cases for 1LLL.

did i answer your question po?

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Re: Petrus users and getting fast!

Post by crazymrk on Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:35 am

im trying to use petrus s F2L ko ngayon ko plng sinusubukan (after i saw this thread) and i find it very nice... s LL fridrich p rin d ko p npagaaralan ung LL ng petrus but planning to study that as well i think petrus is another nice/cool way to speed solve.. Smile hope you guys could help me kung meron akong hindi ma-gets n part s LL and how to improve my F2L using petrus Smile

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Re: Petrus users and getting fast!

Post by jestoni143 on Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:44 am

@ crazymrk:

cool mark ^_^... watch the vids of johannes (thanks to 'sentence') and captaincrashs' vids:

johannes laire: http://www.youtube.com/user/rubiksnake
captaincrash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iVG9jKHPQc

crash has the best vid tutorial for petrus f2ls... i`ve learned most of it from him...

tip: on 15 secs inspection, look for the 2x2x3 pairs as early as possible... posible naman un, u can get 2x2x3 in 5 secs if you are creative an fast enough, mine is around 7 to 8 pa.

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Re: Petrus users and getting fast!

Post by Syalang on Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:12 pm

@jestoni
mas maraming algs ang dapat e memo sa petrus kaysa fridrich?
hmm.. OLL + PLL sa CFOP = 57+ 21... pwd lang naman intuitive ang F2l so it doest really mean to memo those cases.. how bout petruS?

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Re: Petrus users and getting fast!

Post by jestoni143 on Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:49 pm

^ nope, lesser ang algs na DAPAT i memo sa petrus... aside from 7 COLL cases, 3 cpll and 3 epll cases ang DAPAT I-MEMO (for beginners), pretty much intuitive ang f2l ng petrus also the steps 3a and 3b... so 13 ang required.... but one sould learn to solve f2l either intuitively or using algs... both ways will do....

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Re: Petrus users and getting fast!

Post by Syalang on Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:18 pm

@jestoni
pwd ba inde blocking ang 2x2x2 method? pwd sa f2l methoD? bakit 6 lang PLL? wat happend to other 15?

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Re: Petrus users and getting fast!

Post by crazymrk on Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:48 pm

jestoni143 wrote:@ crazymrk:

cool mark ^_^... watch the vids of johannes (thanks to 'sentence') and captaincrashs' vids:

johannes laire: http://www.youtube.com/user/rubiksnake
captaincrash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iVG9jKHPQc

crash has the best vid tutorial for petrus f2ls... i`ve learned most of it from him...

tip: on 15 secs inspection, look for the 2x2x3 pairs as early as possible... posible naman un, u can get 2x2x3 in 5 secs if you are creative an fast enough, mine is around 7 to 8 pa.

thanks bro Smile

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Re: Petrus users and getting fast!

Post by omarismyname on Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:53 pm

jestoni143 wrote:@ omarismyname:

i am not color netral, i can work with any color schemes, though i have to adjust from one color scheme to another (around 1 to 2 solves before i feel comfortable enough)....

.... it is quite absurd that some cubers say that petrus is a 3LLL method, we say "nah, everybody keep saying that, especially those who don`t know petrus method"... it only has 2 look, but have better approach to 1 LLL by combining steps COLL+PLL in one go... petrus has probably the best aproach to zbll. kasi naka subgroup na ang lahat ng cross cases for the last layer... at sa petrus site naka group narin ang mga cases... two look pa rin gamit ko, can`t absorb the 270 cases for 1LLL.

did i answer your question po?
so 2 look LL ka and 1 look LL 1/12 of the time hehe... yes, 270 algs is just too much. pero who knows, pagkamemo mo ng VH/partial edge control baka sipagin ka i-memo yung combined step 5+6+7 for the sune subgroup, automatic na rin yung anti-sune kasi mirror lang

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Re: Petrus users and getting fast!

Post by jestoni143 on Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:54 pm

@ Syalang:

dati ganun nga ginawa ko, kasi dati hindi pa ako sanay sa creativity at paghahanap ng mga needed pieces for 2x2x2..

oo pwede un, dati ang ginagawa ko ay iinsert ang adjacebt D edges at saka ko ipapasok ang first pair para maging 2x2... a beginenr's method nga, ok un.. pero kumakain ng oras un lalo na pag natapos mo na ipasok ang 2 adjacent edges, kasi hahanapin mo pa ang first f2l pair, unlike if you do block building, during 15 sec inspection, dapat makita mo ung 4 cubies na needed for 2x2 block, and at the same time makita mo ang fewest move (6 atmost turns)... this saves lots of time, around 1 to 2 sec may 2x2 ka na if magagawa mo yung mga sinabi ko.

hope it helped.

@ crazymrk:

sure no prob, late ups ko, nasa school kasi ako.

@ omarismyname:

hehehe, sipagin? malamang hindi, ehehe, pero oo nga who knows... so far i`m trying to cut down my 2x2x3 under 12 sec... un muna pinatutuunan ko ng pansin... saka na LL di naman nagbabago yan eh, sa f2l approaches lang nagbabago....

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Re: Petrus users and getting fast!

Post by bluephoenix1993 on Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:22 pm

hi po... Petrus user po ako... Hybrid nga lang... Fridrich at Petrus... Puro Hybrid methods na nga ginagamit ko ngayon eh...

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Re: Petrus users and getting fast!

Post by TendouSouji on Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:02 pm

Dun po sa mga petrus users
Pano nyu po natatapos yung f2l pag nabuo nyu na yung 2x2x3
Interesting po kc gamitin yun and gusto ko po tlga matutunan
Hirap kc d2 mkadownload ng plugins para madaling maintindihan yun mga tutorials eh


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Re: Petrus users and getting fast!

Post by jestoni143 on Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:19 pm

TendouSouji wrote:Dun po sa mga petrus users
Pano nyu po natatapos yung f2l pag nabuo nyu na yung 2x2x3
Interesting po kc gamitin yun and gusto ko po tlga matutunan
Hirap kc d2 mkadownload ng plugins para madaling maintindihan yun mga tutorials eh


first, sorry for the super ultra mega duper superlative late na ups sa thread na ito..

ten, hindi po agad tinatapos ang f2l after mo makagawa ng 2x2x3. there are 2 ways to finish it.

1. use sledgehammers to create dual cross sa F at U face mo with respect to 2x2x3 at LBR position. after mo makagawa ng dual cross, u finish off the last two pairs. u can uses edge-preserving algs, the same algs na ginagamit ko. up to date wala pang magandang tutorial for petrus, kasi hindi simpleng method ito para i-explain unlike fridrich and other methods..

2. finish off the 3rd pair while fixing the remaining bad edges (usually 4 in this method). now this technique is the VH system.

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