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few moves from cross to f2l

Post by Guest on Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:09 pm

uhmmm...
nagstuck na ako sa 27s average e...

ang pinaplano ko e bawasan ang number of moves ko from cross to f2l...
currently, ranging from 30-45 ang cross ko hanggang f2l...
enough na ba yun? o posible pa ang less than 30?
(i mean enough para maka sub20 ha)

i need replies from cubers na sub 20...
pero if ndi ka sub 20, pero may idea ka.. reply na rin.,.
thanks!

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Re: few moves from cross to f2l

Post by meaty21 on Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:22 pm

teka, ilang months ka na ba naglalaro? at gano ka ka"grabe" maglaro sa isang araw? kasi ganyan din ako dati. "ano ba yan!! stuck na ko sa sub40" tapos after 1 month, "ano ba yan!! stuck na ko sa sub301!!", hanggang ayun. nagimprove ng nagimprove nang hindi ko namamalayan. pero kung tingin mo stuck ka na talaga, eto lang mapapayo ko:

1. ako, intuitive pa rin ang F2L ko, pero nakakaaverage ako ng 15-20 sec., so i guess hindi importante masyado mag algo sa F2l kaya wag mo munang isipin.

2. you said 30-45 ang moves mo sa cross from F2L right? ako kasi i average about 30- 35 moves from cross to F2L pero i make sure na atleast sub15 ung time nun. so, possible ka mag sub20 sa ganyang range ng moves.

3. memorize all PLL algos and atleast 7 OLLs(the cross OLLs) and try to trim down your LL time to 5 seconds.

4. PRACTICE!! yun talaga un eh. hahaha.


If walang nakatulong sa mga sinabi ko, maraming post dito about sa F2L and other things na kelangan malaman at a certain point of your cubing "career" so be sure to chek it out!!

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Re: few moves from cross to f2l

Post by Syalang on Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:42 pm

hmm.. may advice ako.. ok lang naman kung ganyan ung number of moves as long as u have a good execution period and look ahead... check mo rin ung f2l mo sa cubing sites kung ganyan ba ung gnagamit nila and choose among kung san ka comfy at mas maganda ung efek nya sau in other words, the best among the rest!

another is that, do some slow solves... nevermind to time slow solves at least u earn the ability to look ahead...
looking ahead kc madalas prob ng mga tao...

try to memorize also OLLs para mas madali ung improvement mo.. the earlier you memorize all algs, on the long run, maiimprove mo recognition mo sa cases including ur execution... thus! bibilis improvement mo...

i hope i answered your question... practise lang katapat nyan!

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Re: few moves from cross to f2l

Post by Guest on Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:53 pm

kagrabe maglaro sa isang araw?
about 50 solves lang isang araw.. masyado busy e...

2weeks na kasi akong 27seconds...

2look ako sa oll at pll...

THANKS SA TIPS!! Very Happy

ang gusto ko lang po malaman if posible pang ibaba sa 30moves ang cross hanggang f2l...
kalimutan muna natin look ahead at fast execution...

siguro poproblemahin ko na yun kapag na minimize ko na number of moves ko...

happy cubing! Smile

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Re: few moves from cross to f2l

Post by jOms on Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:59 pm

Dude. parang ang hirap intindihin..

cross to f2l?

un f2l lang?

un cross + f2l?

or cross lang... nakakalito eh.. pakiexplain pede?

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Re: few moves from cross to f2l

Post by sirian23 on Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:58 pm

Gumagamit ako ng "Empty Slots(dun sa cubeloop or sa f2l ni nakaji)" para kumonti ung moves ko.. siguro 4-6 moves lng minsan kada pair.

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Re: few moves from cross to f2l

Post by omarismyname on Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:18 am

sa tingin ko speed is more on look ahead and excellent finger tricks pero kung gusto mo bumaba movecount mo obvoius sagot jan: learn advanced f2l (yung sa alg bank sa www.cubingtechniques.com)

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Re: few moves from cross to f2l

Post by Guest on Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:33 am

jOms wrote:Dude. parang ang hirap intindihin..

cross to f2l?

un f2l lang?

un cross + f2l?

or cross lang... nakakalito eh.. pakiexplain pede?

FROM cross to f2l...

hehe.. dapat nga pala cross + f2l sinulat ko para mas madali intindihin,, sensya naman Very Happy


uhmmm intuitive f2l ko pero gumagamit na din ako ng empty slots (intuitive din yung empty slots)...

so, madaling sabi, maibaba ko pa number of moves ko?

ano po ba pinakakaunting number of moves sa cross+f2l?

thanks mga tol! Very Happy

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Re: few moves from cross to f2l

Post by Syalang on Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:01 pm

hmmm.. tungkol sa F2l ni nakaji.. may iba na inde ko gusto eh.. mahirap ung pag look ahead kung gagamitan mo ng ILAN sa algs nya.. but some are gud...

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Re: few moves from cross to f2l

Post by ni09ne on Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:01 pm

@hwoarang..msta nmn?ahehe! ok n ung 30-45 moves sa cross+f2l mo..kac ako b4 35-50 nakasub25 ako..tingin ko u need to memorize ung iba pang PLL kac sabi mo 2 look OLL+PLL k db?ok lang ung OLL..PLL muna tapusin mo..malaking tulong kac un eh..lalo n pagnamaster mo n ung PLL..and then praktis..kung sub25 ang habol mo..u dont need f2l algs..(based on my xperience)as of now kac sub19 ako..ok n sakin ang ganitong average..ngmemo ako ng ibat-ibang f2l algos nung nastuck ako sa sub21..slowsolve k lang..actually mas maikli ang ibang int f2l moves compare sa f2l algs..kung maiisip mo lang kung pano sya iminimize..

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Re: few moves from cross to f2l

Post by tigereyes on Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:58 pm

gumamit ka ng MUltislotting..
Smile
tingnan mo sa cubeloop
or advance F2L
and

PRactice!

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Re: few moves from cross to f2l

Post by tigereyes on Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:01 pm

i also recommend to train your reflexes...

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Re: few moves from cross to f2l

Post by Guest on Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:07 pm

ni09ne wrote:@hwoarang..msta nmn?ahehe! ok n ung 30-45 moves sa cross+f2l mo..kac ako b4 35-50 nakasub25 ako..tingin ko u need to memorize ung iba pang PLL kac sabi mo 2 look OLL+PLL k db?ok lang ung OLL..PLL muna tapusin mo..malaking tulong kac un eh..lalo n pagnamaster mo n ung PLL..and then praktis..kung sub25 ang habol mo..u dont need f2l algs..(based on my xperience)as of now kac sub19 ako..ok n sakin ang ganitong average..ngmemo ako ng ibat-ibang f2l algos nung nastuck ako sa sub21..slowsolve k lang..actually mas maikli ang ibang int f2l moves compare sa f2l algs..kung maiisip mo lang kung pano sya iminimize..

thanks tol.. sa wakas, nasagot din yung tanong ko.. hehe...

sa iba,.. thanks din po sa mga replies... Very Happy

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Re: few moves from cross to f2l

Post by lorcan on Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:53 am

para sa signature ni sirian23

PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT bUT nobody's perfect?!

sagot q, PRACTICE MAKES IMROVEMENT =)

scramble solve lng poh, drting k din sa sub 20,

ako din dati gnya halos isng week cgro ko stuck sa sub 30, hnggang aun, nag sub 25 aq, tpos naun sub 20 na.

tpos. may mga time din na tumataas ung ave ku, cgro bblik sa sub 25 gnun,

pagod n cgro ung kamay ko nun, kc nung high school ako, cube lng ng cube khit break time.

e nagkataon, c orata lage nag aaya hahah aun . . =)

cgro ung unahan namen sa pag cu2be nktulong din, with adrenaline, ptos pag iisip ng mbilis at sa pagtingn =)

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