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Post by JeFerr on Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:53 pm

I've been really worried...my improvement has drastically declined...I can't make it to 14.xx ave..I'm stuck at 15-16s average...I'm asking those who broke the 15s-barrier..hope you could help...I think I need tips...I know it's just same saying such as "practice, practice, practice" but anything more?...besides practice, what might help me though?...salamat sa tips in advance bounce

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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by shiner on Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:13 pm


uhm. MAMAW ka na eh!! ^_^ eheh, *peace
`La nako masabi kundi, PRACTICE..
`:p dapat sub9 cross+f2l.
`sub2 OLL
`sub2 PLL.

`yan cgro?. ^^, eheh. GALING MO NA TOL!! ^_^

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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by JeFerr on Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:30 pm

@shiner: sub15 kna?...how'd you break the barrier bro?..anyways, thanks...i think my first goal would be the f2l...i have 10-11s f2l and 3-5s LL...

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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by shiner on Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:40 pm

@JeFerr, ui2x. sensya.. di ko nabanggit, hindi pa ako sub15. ^_^
`may nabasa kasi ako b4..
`parang ganyan nadin if you want to reach and maintain sub15..
`kea un pumasok sa isip ko..
`inconsistent sub20 pa po ako.. eheh..

`ambilis mo naman.. Laughing

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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by 3stan08 on Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:22 am

Sir good day.
I am not a fast cuber like you but I think i'm on my way there (..dream on)...just wanna share, I am following the Training Tips/Guide stickied on this Speedcubing Forum (the one on the top authored by Sir Pajodaep).
There are tips on reaching certain averages and the sub15's is also included.

Thanks and God Bless.


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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by Syalang on Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:03 am

jeffer... sub 20 lang ako..

nakita ko naman ung solves ng mga sub 13.. f2l nila mor or les sub 8 or sub 6... probably yan cguro.. dont be in a rush.. cguro ur not stuck, ur just slowly improving... u just cant see it nor notice ur improvement coz your level as you go along improvements are slowly done...

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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by JeFerr on Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:59 pm

3stan08 wrote:Sir good day.
I am not a fast cuber like you but I think i'm on my way there (..dream on)...just wanna share, I am following the Training Tips/Guide stickied on this Speedcubing Forum (the one on the top authored by Sir Pajodaep).
There are tips on reaching certain averages and the sub15's is also included.

Thanks and God Bless.


..

yup it did help a bit...but there wasn't any 15s ave there..nevertheless, I learned quite a mouthful tips


@syalang: yup that's what I said, I'm stuck at my present average not with my improvement though...A second is really hard to improve when your down to sub20....thanks bro...I think I'm going to a training camp for f2l-time-reduction...ehehe

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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by i.luv.cube on Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:26 pm

tanong lang po, nagawa niyo na po ba lahat ng nakalagay sa mga sticky or mga tips na nakalagay sa forum na ito?

example, metronome and slow solve, nag eextended cross ko ba?

paki post rin po yung mga alam niyo na.. important po kasi yun para mabigyan ka ng tips ng mga sub 15 jan.. Malay ba nila 7 lang OLL mo diba?

the tips you got will going to be mouhful forever if you're not going to do it Smile

Anyway, di po ako sub15 but you can try folowing my suggestion Smile

tama ka, practice practice at practice, pero alam mo ba dulo niyan? practice parin eh.. sa lahat ng bagay, kelangan ng practice, kahit yung bago nating nalalaman, kelangan practicin kaya, practice talaga eh Smile hahaha..

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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by JeFerr on Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:00 pm

@i.luv.cube: i don't use metronome, i don't patronize extended cross unless i see a very good opportunity, i keep doing slow solves, PLL attack, OLL & PLL reviews...also, I have more than 57 algs for OLLs and more than 21 PLL algs...also, i hope I made that clear I was looking for more specific tips for practice...with all due respect you don't need to follow all tips and all advices as not all of them work for everybody...want an example?...some cubers think being color neutral really helps but it doesn't work for me eventhough I've tried it a couple of weeks...I'm sorry bro I just find your post offensive to my side...I emphasized "mouthful" since it was marami in the full sense of the word...I'm not that stupid naman cguro not to try those "mouthful" tips I got don't you think?

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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by Erika Gomez on Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:06 pm

(1st of all, i am not fast. You can see my profile and it says i'm just sub30. Very Happy .. But i'll interfere by the way. Razz)

Of course, it will always sound awkward, pero it's really practice ... a hardcore PRACTICE.
But practice must be accompanied by the eagerness to LEARN and MEMORIZE more algs.
Maganda rin if you do have TIME. (which i barely have) Sad
You may optimize din and find out other shortcuts from yourself.
Lalo na mabilis ka na, marami ka na pinagdaanan, madami ka ng experience.. So i do know na you know much na. Smile
Lesser move count din and good look-ahead especially in your F2L will do some tricks. Try color neutrality, yea, metronome (but actually, both didn't help me. Razz)

Pero according to your statement, sub15 ka na.
Oh well, that's insanely fast........

And tama si Kuya Justine (iluvcube), how can people know what to advice to you, e incomplete pa, and not-much detailed yung sinabi mo. Ayun, sana provide more details...
(i wish you're gonna include a video narin to prove and for us to see and know what to say. Smile)


Also, here is Kuya Pajo's thread:

http://pinoyspeedcubers.forumotion.com/speedcubing-f7/training-tips-for-cubers-with-stuck-averages-credit-pjk-t4486.htm
--Training tips for cubers with stuck averages--



~You're fast na. I don't know how to really help you because i can't even help myself.~Smile
Well, good luck. Magpabilis ka pa, join competitions, and be a hardcore cuber. Very Happy

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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by JeFerr on Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:18 pm

thanks for that...I'm on a vacation di2 sa Negros eh so la sakin video cam...maybe pag-uwi ko sa Cebu I'll make a video...by the way, I'm not sub15 yet,..that's what I'm trying to be or break...competitions? maybe I can join when it's held in Cebu I hope we'll have some here...

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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by Nero_IV on Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:26 pm

I'm not fast but here is my view. Smile

it's all in the mind. isipin mong hindi barrier ang 15. Dapat ang only barrier mong iniisip ay 9second average. tas mag-iimprove k n nyan.

oh and do also focus.. really focus on f2l =)

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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by rplah on Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:11 pm

hello.. i'm also inconsistent sub 20.. haha. dream ko mg sub 10.. joke.. khit sub 15 ok lng po..
eto po.. practice, look ahead, slow solve.. practice mo po yng f2l ng sub 10.. hhe.. yan po yng naiisip ko pra mka sub 15 ka ng consistent.. yan po yng mga gsto ko mgwa, hehe.. aun.. god bless po..

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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by greatauror28 on Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:53 pm

JeFerr wrote:@i.luv.cube: i don't use metronome, i don't patronize extended cross unless i see a very good opportunity, i keep doing slow solves, PLL attack, OLL & PLL reviews...also, I have more than 57 algs for OLLs and more than 21 PLL algs...also, i hope I made that clear I was looking for more specific tips for practice...with all due respect you don't need to follow all tips and all advices as not all of them work for everybody...want an example?...some cubers think being color neutral really helps but it doesn't work for me eventhough I've tried it a couple of weeks...I'm sorry bro I just find your post offensive to my side...I emphasized "mouthful" since it was marami in the full sense of the word...I'm not that stupid naman cguro not to try those "mouthful" tips I got don't you think?

hmmm...seems like somebody's definitely fast huh?
let's be respectful to everybody in this forum, respect each and everyone's view of cubing, techniques and practices..
if you don't want to be commented on your post, then don't start a thread or don't post a reply at all..
we just want a sharing experience here, besides if you're already fast, try suggesting your method or way of practicing..
just don't ignite a conflict here..
one thing's for sure...
we'll all be waiting for your video solve when your vacation is over...
just to prove that all are headed in the right direction...
peace! Smile

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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by kidramos on Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:13 pm

JeFerr wrote:I've been really worried...my improvement has drastically declined...I can't make it to 14.xx ave..I'm stuck at 15-16s average...I'm asking those who broke the 15s-barrier..hope you could help...I think I need tips...I know it's just same saying such as "practice, practice, practice" but anything more?...besides practice, what might help me though?...salamat sa tips in advance bounce
Please show your CFOP times, like show your cross+f2l average of 12 or something, show your OLL times, PLL times and a video of you doing an average of 12 will be excellent if you want other people to help you because they need to see what's keeping you from achieving your goals. Another thing, don't be mad if your being criticized by other people, be open for this kind of people even if they are just a waste of your time or even if you think they are not much of a help.

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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by JeFerr on Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:34 am

@greatauror28: thanks for that...I'll take that in a positive outlook...

@kidramos: nicely said...thanks bro

I'll have my ave of 12 video as soon as sembreak's over...anyways, enough of misunderstandings and conflicts..My bad, sorry...so, anything more to add people?...here are somethings I noticed from my solves:

f2l for like 10-11s <<I'll do more and more lookahead and optimization (thanks y'all)
takes me quite a while recognizing an OLL <<I'll do slow solves more to improve this and the f2l (thanks to syuhei for that)

I have quite slow recognition on PLL though I can solve it in any angle <<I'll need help here I guess

And I often do have lockups <<can't seem to find a good cube though, don't wanna spend so much on expensive ones ...I'll improvise more on my fingertrix



(again sorry, my bad...after all this is not a conflict thread rather a helping one...thanks)

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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by isaganiesteron on Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:55 am

work on f2l.. If your intuitive f2l then learn some algs to lessen the the move count, if your not then learn better f2l algs that suit you better and has lesser moves..

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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by mYkEz on Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:35 am

all i can say is improve mo pa po look ahead mo. .thats all. .

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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by JeFerr on Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:01 am

@gani: thanks, I'll do that
@mykez: sure thing..thanks

BTW, I pmed someone (speedcuber not from Phil.) to watch one of my normal ave of 5 solves...1st thing he noticed was my grip, he said it's not that consistent..I asked him what that means, then he said it should be in a way that would make me comfortable coz my hands don't look comfortable enough...kung sa pinoy pa, alanganin ung grip ko lalo na ung pag-facechange daw...so he said: try to search for a PLL trainer and just do it...he said it improved well his grip on the cube...kaya eto napaisip ako..hehe thanks BTW...(I'll hide just his identity since he wants privacy daw, so respect ko nalang)

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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by i.luv.cube on Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:40 am

ayun, try using metronome Smile wala namang mawawala kung susubukan eh Smile

you're right, use extended cross when there's oppurtunity.. don't force extended cross Smile

tama ka rin, not all works for all and nakalagay naman di dun sa mga postn a yun eh Smile

at, sorry nga pala if you find my post offensive on your part.. mali rin ako dun sa part na "nagawa mo na ba lahat" kasi not all works for all nga naman, haha.. sakin kasi ang panget nung adjective na "mouthful", para sakin nagmumukhang nonsense sila, haha.. sorry naman...

So now, you have completed CFOP and you're also an extended cross user (when there's an oppurtunity) so ayun, makatulong siguro din talaga ang video.. Most likely f2l tayu nagkakatalo, dun talaga matagal eh..

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I don't want to repeat myself

http://pinoyspeedcubers.forumotion.com/off-topic-f10/do-you-think-some-of-the-cubers-are-mayabang-t4923.htm?highlight=mayabang

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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by pajodaep on Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:42 pm

I have the same dilemma. I've been stuck in the 15's for a loooong time, that's why i quit cubing.

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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by sirlawrencearabia on Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:48 pm

Di pa po ko sub 15's pero palagi kami mag kasama ni Simon Moon and even him eh winowork-out ang kanyang time...Ang problema nya daw eh ung ibang execution ng PLL eh mabagal coz of not comfortable finger tricks and it really affect talaga ung time mo if it is not coordinated...moon stated.

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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by TendouSouji on Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:42 pm

Kuya pano po ba maibba sa 15 secs. pag sub 20 ka???

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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by i.luv.cube on Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:05 pm

TendouSouji wrote:Kuya pano po ba maibba sa 15 secs. pag sub 20 ka???

kuya, I think you have asked that same question sa ginawa niyo pong thread, hehe.. dun nalang po tayu siguro mag reply.. salamat po Smile

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Re: Breaking 15s-barrier

Post by Brian Nicole Uy on Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:48 pm

Me too, I'm stuck at 14.5 seconds... But I can help you break the sub15. I don't have time to post it now. Just take my YM
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