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Post by longki0522 Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:04 pm

am using 2-cylce... gusto ko matuto 3-cycle pro di ko naiintindihan ung pano pg-set-up... am currently averaging 4:40 min... best time is 3:39 min.. memorization ko umaabot ng sobra 2 min.. pano ang mg.memo ng mabilis??? got to go down to ave 2min... dapat 1 min lng ung memo at 1 min din resolution ko... pano ba???
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Post by hayalet Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:38 pm

longki.. parehas tau..
bsta aku s memo lng nta2galan..


reply sna kau d2..
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Post by grandbooter Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:41 pm

subukan mo imemo sunod sunod na number...

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Post by Nero_IV Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:35 pm

Offtopic:
First of all do learn 3cycle because it is way way way more faster than 2cycle. Very Happy

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Okay,I-rush mo ung pagmememo. Wag mong isipin na maddnf ka basta irush mo lang nang irush. Tas BLD lang ng BLD. Pagkatapos solve lang ng solve. Don't mind your accuracy rate because most likely it will not be pleasing Smile. Pagkatapos nun solve k pa ng solve. Try doing this mga 2weeks and like 5hours a day. Makakaya mong itrim down memo mo to sub40 or even sub30. When you think your memo is already fast then focus on your accuracy. Smile Tapos solve pa ng solve. Nothing beats practice. Very Happy An exercise (or an act of self-torture my friends would call it) na ginagawa ko dati (nung mahal na mahal ko pa yung BLD) ay gigising ng 9AM sa weekends uupo manonood ng Baki the Grappler tas BLD til madaling araw. Then wake up the next day and do it all over again. Tatlong araw ko nagagawa yun dahil wala kaming klase during mondays. Razz (Maliban lang dun sa Baki dahil wala nun on mondays Razz) It wasn't really the best way to practice because of the consequences that you would face. You know that feeling of emptiness that you would feel in your head? yung feeling na parang super overworked na yung brain mo gusto mo na tumigil pero dapat CONTINUE parin! Very Happy Hanggang sumasakit na ulo mo, pero CONTINUE parin! Very Happy The bottom line is that the determination was there. And if you just focus on your goal, you will reach it. Achieving something isn't always based on the skills you have but on how much you want it.

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Post by longki0522 Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:02 pm

tnx sa pag-advice... ung pg-memo ko ay puro visual eh... wala akong numbering or letters man lng... meron buh tutorial pra ma-intindihan ko ung 3-cylce??? ung madaling intindihin... hirap kc ng ngbabasa lng.. malapit na iligan open... arrrrggggh pano na yan 2 days nlng 4 pratices...

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Post by icOn Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:38 am

nero alin ka dun sa mga kagayanon cuber? hehe DNF nga solve ko pareho sa BLD. toinks.

anyway, alin ba sa pag-setup ng 3cycle ang di mo gets? baka pwede ko explain. apat na natuturuan ko sa BLD eh. gamit ko 3cycle. XD
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Post by shiner Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:59 pm

icOn wrote:nero alin ka dun sa mga kagayanon cuber? hehe DNF nga solve ko pareho sa BLD. toinks.

anyway, alin ba sa pag-setup ng 3cycle ang di mo gets? baka pwede ko explain. apat na natuturuan ko sa BLD eh. gamit ko 3cycle. XD

maki sawsaw lang. ^^.v
i think hindi taga Cagayan si nero.
yang si longki ang taga Cagayan de oro. ^^
hindi siya nakasama sa Iligan open..

hm, paturo naman 3-cycle icon?^^. hirap intindihin.
la akong masabi kung saan ako banda naghihirap sa 3-cycle.
kundi, naghihirap ako sa concept niyan. lahat2x. ehehe
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Post by icOn Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:05 pm

@shiner

haha lols. yah, pornographer ko.

regarding the topic. magaling lang ako (i think) magturo. di ako magaling mag-execute. hehe. sinubukan ko lang yung sa iligan open kung kaya ko ang pressure. LOLS.

ok, let's start dun sa pinakasimula. hehe. for me i start memorizing yung CO then EO, since yun yung mas madali compared sa CP and EP. alam nyo naman siguro yung concepts diba? like, kung meron isang wrong flipped na cubie, meron talaga yan kapares na isa pa. that's because of the limited mechanism of the cube. so for short, dapat EVEN ang count mo ng wrongly flipped cubies (edge or corner). hindi pwedeng ODD. ok, i think alam nyo na rin yan. for refresh lang. hehe.

then we have the CP and EP. just as above, inuuna ko rin yung pag-memo ng CP stings kesa sa EP. i guess alam nyo naman pano yung pag-memo (or numbering) sa CP and EP so skip ko na yun. eto lesson learned sa iligan open: sa CP string, always count and make sure na 8 yung total digits. kahit na isa dun ay sakto na or whatever. ganun din sa EP, which should total to 12. halimbawa sa CP: (132)(568)(4). kulang sya ng isa, so you should look for the other one. sa competition, di naman pwede isulat mo yung numbering sa papel, so ako ginagawa ko, kumbaga nag-ccheck ako ng attendance. after memorizing the numbering, nagccount ako at the same time "binibisita" ko ung cubie of that number. that way, makita ko kung alin yung "hindi natawag". hehe mabagal yung process. dapat nga change ko na. same thing ginagawa ko sa EP.

well, that's how i do it. yung sa setup moves....nextime natin pagusapan. refresh lang muna yung post ko. hehe.
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Post by shiner Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:41 pm

icon, hm. thanks. murag kasabot naku gamay **

`ill wait for the continuation. ^_^
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Post by icOn Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:21 pm

then we have the execution part.

for some, mas madali daw yung execution na part kesa sa pag-memo. or the other way around. well depende na lang sa determination mo sa pag-practice.

first dun tayo sa CO and EO as execution of these are much easier (for me) compared sa perms. ang setup moves sa kanila are unlimited. as long as you get the cubies in the position where you want them and kaya mong i-reverse ung setup moves na yun, oks lang. i think it's much comfortable (well, for me) kung gagawa ka ng sarili mong ruling sa pag-setup. like for example, you ALWAYS turn the side slices first before the FB slices, or yung UD slices, or whatever. basta, diskarte mo na lang. inuulit ko lang, unlimited yung setup moves. so kahit mag N ka or N2, no probs. then we have the algs. ang sakin i use yung double sune na alg. ang setup nun is 14. meaning ang isang cubie nasa 1, and yung isa nasa 4, with 1 sa lower left corner ng U slice then going counterclockwise. as an exercise, execute a forward sune sa R slice (R U R' U R U2 R') then sundan mo ng forward sune sa L slice (L' U' L U' L' U2 L) on a solved cube. you will see na nagflip yung 14 cubies. yung top color napunta sa sides. i call that "forward" orientation, since yung gamit na sune is forward. if you execute another forward sune sa right and left, mapupunta yung top colors sa front and back. then execute another, mapupunta na sya uli sa top. do the math and analyze kung ano mangyayari kung "reverse" orientation ang gagawin mo. meaning mauuna sa left slice with reverse sune (L' U2 L U L' U L) then reverse sune sa left slice (R U2 R' U' R U' R').

balik lang ako mamaya, dinner muna. hehe
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Post by sonn22 Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:40 pm

mga pangit... way klaru inyu topic... di masabtan

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Post by sonn22 Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:41 pm

sayun ra kau mag memo sa edge.. just use the letters for the Edge... make it a sentence...

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Post by longki0522 Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:21 pm

hindi ko pah na-iintindihan ung decomposition rules, at ung pg.set-up... alam ko lang sa corners F2B2L2R2UD.. un lng.. lolz sinusubukan ko kaya lng nakakalimutan ko ung pg.undo ng set-up... lolz minsan sakto as usual minsan mali...

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tnx.. sub1:30 min nah ung memo ko... fastest ko 45sec... galing ng advice mo pro wahehehe sinisigurado ko parin nah di xa DNF kahit rush... lolz pero tao lng ako minsan DNF parin.... wahahaha kahit nah sure na sure nah ako... tnx sa'yo... ang galing mo... sub-3:30min nah aq... 2-cycle parin.. need to move on to 3-cycle talaga...

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bsta... lahat ng set-up... (123) for CP nga eh ngkakamali ako ung ginagamit ko ay A-perm kasi ung pg-undo ng set-up moves ang dami... pano ba un???

M2 ung ginagamit ko for edges kapag 3-cycle ung CP ko sa mga practices.. kaya lng sa M2 ngkakamali aq sa special cases ng M-slices kasi di ko nah alam kung nasan ung white at yellow center ko.. kelangan dn bang mg-count? para alam ko kung san ung W/Ycenter ko??? pano ba un???
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Post by icOn Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:25 pm

try this:

bottom yellow, front red. execute R B' R F2 R' B R F2 R2. tingnan mo ano mangyari. base on that, you can teach yourself (more like intindihin mo) kung ano ang mangyayari kapag ito na alg ang gamitin mo and with this setup.

regarding sa M slice, M2 ka lang ng M2. yah, you have to count kung ilang beses ka nag M2 and tandaan mo kung after which move ka nag-M2.

YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER EVERYTHING.

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Post by 13themogod Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:58 pm

try mo pag-aralan lahat ng commutators.....pm tungkel08 marami xang alam 2ngkol d2 or c lestercruz

search lng.....Google is your friend...
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Post by jr Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:31 pm

alamin ninyo muna yung concept ng 3 cycle
before kang mag commutator
that is my advice
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Post by longki0522 Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:58 pm

jr wrote:alamin ninyo muna yung concept ng 3 cycle
before kang mag commutator
that is my advice

meron kabang alam na tutorial video for 3-cycle.. i have my pdf file but sumasakit mata ko sa kakabasa.. Shocked
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Post by luxyz Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:29 pm

yep tama si jr.. kung magco-commutator kayo.. dapat mejo master niyo muna ung 3-cycle.. kasi mas madali mo matututunan yung commutator pag alam mo na 3-cycle.. at isa pa, mgagamit mo pden ung 3-cyle sa commutators.. kasi 3cycle din un eh..hehehe
teka nga lng.. tama ba ko sa pagkakaintindi ko na ang pinagkaiba ng 3-cycle sa commutators e yung 3-cycle my orientation tapos ang commutator, wala? anu pa ba pinagkaiba nila?

kaya parang magsanay ka muna sa merong orientation na edge bago ung wala..??
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Post by longki0522 Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:47 pm

medyo nkk-solve nah ako gamit ang 3-cycle... kaya lng sa edges-memorization di ko alam kung oriented na ba xa... red ung front ko at white ung top ko... pano malalaman kung oriented xa??? anong kulay or sticker na dapat sa aling face like left, right, top, down??? ... my 1st attempt - 5 min ung solve ko gamit pure 3 cycle.. mas mabilis sa set-up ung 2-cycles ko kasi humihinto aq sa pg.set-up kapag 3 cycles...
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Post by icOn Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:25 pm

@longki
para sa U slice, ang dapat na nasa TOP ay either red, orange, yellow, or white.
para sa E slice, lahat ng blue and green colors dapat nasa left or right.
para sa D slice, ang dapat na nasa BOTTOM ay either red, orange, yellow, or white.
the same thing as:
para sa U slice, if you see a green or a blue na nasa TOP, then that edge cubie is wrongly flipped.
para sa E slice, if you see a green or a blue na nasa front, then that edge cubie is wrongly flipped.
para sa D slice, if you see a green or a blue na nasa BOTTOM then that edge cubie is wrongly flipped.

ganun lang yun.

hope it helfs \m/
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Post by jr Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:53 pm

luxyz wrote:
teka nga lng.. tama ba ko sa pagkakaintindi ko na ang pinagkaiba ng 3-cycle sa commutators e yung 3-cycle my orientation tapos ang commutator, wala? anu pa ba pinagkaiba nila?

tama yung pakakaintindi mo
ang pinagka-iba pa sa kanila ay yung
commutators ay maximum of 9 moves
in other words yung commutator ay few moves kaysa sa pure 3cycle
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Post by longki0522 Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:04 pm

icOn wrote:@longki
para sa U slice, ang dapat na nasa TOP ay either red, orange, yellow, or white.
para sa E slice, lahat ng blue and green colors dapat nasa left or right.
para sa D slice, ang dapat na nasa BOTTOM ay either red, orange, yellow, or white.
the same thing as:
para sa U slice, if you see a green or a blue na nasa TOP, then that edge cubie is wrongly flipped.
para sa E slice, if you see a green or a blue na nasa front, then that edge cubie is wrongly flipped.
para sa D slice, if you see a green or a blue na nasa BOTTOM then that edge cubie is wrongly flipped.

ganun lang yun.

hope it helfs \m/

tnx icon.. u sure r a great help 2 me Laughing ano nga ung set-up moves dpt w/n F2B2RLUD noh??... am sub 3min now at my 2-cycle & 4min at 3-cycle cheers ... juz recently studying M2/R2 pra pipili nlng aq sa kung san aq mas mabilis... ung R2 ko ay 6 lng ung n.memo ko kc i orient corners first pra di masyado madami ung memorized set-up moves for corners kaya ayun 6 lng... oriented 1,2,4,5,7,8 corners lang... but still learning how to fix parity... medyo di ko na-intindihan c pochmann dun sa site nya... Very Happy
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