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Post by ynajatrice on Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:19 pm

sinong may COMPLETE list ng Guimond method for 2x2x2?

kulang kasi yung nakita ko sa net at hindi ko pa sya maintindihan dahil nakakalito yung drawing

help naman po!

tnx!


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Re: Guimond and Ortega Method (2x2x2)

Post by magicsquares on Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:05 pm

Ito...

http://www.hio.hen.nl/~s98134/rubik/2x2_guimond.html

Ewan ko lang kung yan yung tinutukoy mo na nakakalito yung drawing...

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Re: Guimond and Ortega Method (2x2x2)

Post by Guest on Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:11 pm

I know the Guimon Method and all its algs

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Re: Guimond and Ortega Method (2x2x2)

Post by greatauror28 on Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:54 pm

penge link jonathan...
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Re: Guimond and Ortega Method (2x2x2)

Post by Guest on Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:57 pm

No problemo dude! check this out http://erikku.er.funpic.org/rubik/

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Post by greatauror28 on Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:15 am

tnx man...by the way...na record ko na ung segment nyo sa sweet life...upload ko tom...how's the kiss? bwahahaha...joke...peace man:)
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Re: Guimond and Ortega Method (2x2x2)

Post by ynajatrice on Sat Oct 20, 2007 9:19 am

kuya jonathan, yan yata yung link na may nakakalitong drawing

hehehe

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Re: Guimond and Ortega Method (2x2x2)

Post by magicsquares on Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:39 am

Yung step 4 po ba yung nakakalito? Kung yun nga, gawn mo yung algos sa solved cube para malaman mo kung ano yung pinagpapalit palit ng mga algs.

Kung yung iba yung nakakalito like this: if the D face looks like this then the U face has these possibilities. Make sure na kapag ginawa mo x2(yung cube rotation) ganun nga ang kinalalabasan at hindi mo kailangan gumawa pa ng y cube rotation or iturn yung U face..

Dyan kasi ako nalilito kaya feeling ko dyan rin kayo nalilito heehehe... Ewan ko lang kung dyan ka nalilito... Actually nadiscourage nga ako pag-aralan yang method na yan kasi nakakaasar yung step 4...

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Re: Guimond and Ortega Method (2x2x2)

Post by Guest on Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:09 pm

Actually Step 4 is permutation for one or both layers. What I did was I made a 3-D drawing for me to see where pieces are going. For sure, pagnakita niyo drawing di kayo mahihirapan. This method is only beneficial if you are color neutral or its just like COLL, well that is just me.

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Re: Guimond and Ortega Method (2x2x2)

Post by ynajatrice on Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:37 pm

un na nga yung naicp ko eh

hehehe

baka kylangan ng cube rotation or something

tnx sa tips!

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Re: Guimond and Ortega Method (2x2x2)

Post by magicsquares on Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:06 pm

Basta make sure na after x2 kailangan di ko gagamit ng y ikutin mo lang yung U face or whatever face.

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Re: Guimond and Ortega Method (2x2x2)

Post by Nube on Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:25 pm

Is this method the fastest for the 2x2x2 cube? I just want your opinions. Thanks.

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Re: Guimond and Ortega Method (2x2x2)

Post by benjediman on Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:29 pm

@Nube

It's used by many people that's fast, that's for sure. In Erik's site, there are supposedly faster methods, but ones that require extensive memorization. That's why many settle for either Guimond or Ortega.

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Post by Nube on Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:33 pm

I guess I could average sub- 10 with this method after I learned it. Thanks bro.

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Re: Guimond and Ortega Method (2x2x2)

Post by Rikimaru the Assassin on Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:47 am

Thrawst's Guimond Method tutorial as well as his algorithm sheet on the description.

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Re: Guimond and Ortega Method (2x2x2)

Post by pangungusap on Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:43 pm

i think under development din yung method ni erik para sa 2x2....

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Re: Guimond and Ortega Method (2x2x2)

Post by kingpsyzor on Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:59 pm

nice link rikimaru... tnx!!

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Post by jhameel_killua03 on Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:18 am

thanks po sa mga links ... Very Happy

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Re: Guimond and Ortega Method (2x2x2)

Post by jolo_mat2008 on Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:32 am

tnx sa links..i'm rushing 2x2..deym..got to learn guimond......

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for those rushing 2x2..i suggest studying ortega for the meantime..Smile learned all it's algs in 30 mins..alam ko na kc ung iba dahil sa OLLs and PLLs..at napaka simple lang talaga..Smile here's a link

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Re: Guimond and Ortega Method (2x2x2)

Post by ynajatrice on Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:20 pm

ortega has less algs

though "mabilis" na talaga siya

pero tricky talaga kung gusto niyong bumilis using ortega

extreme look ahead ang kailangan

tip ko lang

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Re: Guimond and Ortega Method (2x2x2)

Post by jolo_mat2008 on Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:49 pm

@ ynajatrice : lalaki ka po diba? wah..palagi kong naiisip na babae ka..ung avatar mo po kasi..si jessika aka jiri fridrich...haha..tumatak na sa utak ko na babae ka..eniwey off topic na to..Razz oonga po..tinatry kong gawin..habang inspection time pa lang..inaalam ko na kung may mabubuo bang "bars" sa first layer..tapos inaanalyze ko kung anong oll case lalabas dun sa pangalawang layer..nagagawa ko naman so far..nahihirapan pa lang ako sa pagrecognize ng case sa pagpermute ng dalawang layers..Razz wala lang..ansaya ng ORTEGA..30 mins of practice and memorizing algs..nakakuha na ko ng bagong pb sa 2x2....7.5 seconds..Razz haha..best average : 12 seconds..Razz

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Re: Guimond and Ortega Method (2x2x2)

Post by ahyah_18 on Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:09 pm

pede dn yta sa 2x2 ung mga algs n pang corners s 3x3 oll nd pll medyo mhba ngalang cguro???

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Re: Guimond and Ortega Method (2x2x2)

Post by Nube on Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:51 pm

Try nyo to:

1.Find or set- up a face on the 2x2x2 with 4 or 3 corners with the opposite colors then use an OLL algorithm to orient the opposite face, treating opposite colors as the top color.

2. Use the step 3 of Guimond method to place the opposite corners in their correct place. I think this step can be intuitive in the first place.

3. Use the permutation patterns of Guimond method as the last step.
There are times that such patterns wouldn't come up but they are actually only mirrors of those patterns so you need to mirror the algorithms for it.

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Re: Guimond and Ortega Method (2x2x2)

Post by ynajatrice on Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:37 pm

jolo_mat2008 wrote:@ ynajatrice : lalaki ka po diba? wah..palagi kong naiisip na babae ka..ung avatar mo po kasi..si jessika aka jiri fridrich...haha..tumatak na sa utak ko na babae ka..eniwey off topic na to..Razz oonga po..tinatry kong gawin..habang inspection time pa lang..inaalam ko na kung may mabubuo bang "bars" sa first layer..tapos inaanalyze ko kung anong oll case lalabas dun sa pangalawang layer..nagagawa ko naman so far..nahihirapan pa lang ako sa pagrecognize ng case sa pagpermute ng dalawang layers..Razz wala lang..ansaya ng ORTEGA..30 mins of practice and memorizing algs..nakakuha na ko ng bagong pb sa 2x2....7.5 seconds..Razz haha..best average : 12 seconds..Razz

lalaki nga ako, hehehe

tama ka, anticipation talaga ng "bars"

sinusubukan kong i-anticipate yung OLL para sa smooth execution

dahil nga sa ortega eh naka sub-3 solve ako, chamba, hehehe

practice sa anticipation, since yung algs eh OK na

malaki talaga nagagawa ng anticipation

hehehe

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Post by jolo_mat2008 on Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:02 pm

hehe..ortega rocks..about 1 hour of practice lang sub 12 average na ko..haha..Smile ansaya..very intuitive pa yung pagbuo ng 1st layer..Razz pasensya na ah..guimond method tong thread pero nagaadvertise ako ng ortega..hehe..Razz lalang..dami kcng algs ng guimond eh..Razz

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