Do I really have to memorize all OLL and PLL algos.?

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Re: Do I really have to memorize all OLL and PLL algos.?

Post by ares12 on Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:56 pm

G perm pa lang mine-memorize ko ngaun naguguluhan na ko.. di ko ma-classify.. T_T

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Re: Do I really have to memorize all OLL and PLL algos.?

Post by magicsquares on Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:08 pm

Madali lang ang G-perm.... Punta ka sa cubewhiz.com tapos click mo PLL sa left side meron siya comments about sa recognition ng mga PLL cases

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Re: Do I really have to memorize all OLL and PLL algos.?

Post by hopelessvain on Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:18 pm

madali lng yung G-perms.

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Re: Do I really have to memorize all OLL and PLL algos.?

Post by ares12 on Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:18 pm

kk.. im now browsing it..

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Re: Do I really have to memorize all OLL and PLL algos.?

Post by korokok on Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:41 pm

hi... new member lng po...
i luv the site and all the advices...
salamat sa mga bumuo na toh...
i've been cubing for a week and 2 days now...
i've switched to fridrich and memorized 15 OLL's already...
Cross and F2L is just pure intuition...
i don't get what you're saying about memorizing a single OLL a day..
well...
here's just what i did...
i just switched yesterday from beginner method to fridrich...
and i memorized the OLL algo's by W.S.D method
which means...
W-rite
S-ay
D-o
my teacher told me when memorizing, doing multiple actions for one thing increase memorization by 10%...
well... that worked for me...
it may not work for other's since i'm not God to always be right..
i just dont get the concept of memorizing 1-2 algos a day...

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Re: Do I really have to memorize all OLL and PLL algos.?

Post by Intel`` on Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:22 pm

isaganiesteron wrote:
ares12 wrote:is there some other easier way?. lol!

yes there is, i have devised my own method.. you don't have to memorize algorithms with this.. its called assemble-disassemble method.. some people here know of this method already.. its very very effective...

makaka sub60 ka sa method na yan. hihih

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Re: Do I really have to memorize all OLL and PLL algos.?

Post by jincronics_07 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:14 pm

kung gsto m tlga bmls you hve 2 memorize fridrich method(CFOP)..Smile

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Re: Do I really have to memorize all OLL and PLL algos.?

Post by triskaidekaphobia on Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:29 pm

uhmmm..you can try to learn LL of petrus, mga tatlo lang cguro kailangan mo. pero ayun nga, babagal ka naman.....petrusian kasi ako eh...hehehe...pero nag.aaral na ako ng PLL ng fridrich...at ayun nga...1 - 2 algos a day....

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Re: Do I really have to memorize all OLL and PLL algos.?

Post by benjediman on Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:46 pm

@korokok:

Yes, it is very possible to memorize many algorithms in a single day. But what 1OLL-1DAY is trying to achieve is total mastery of each algorithm before moving on to the next, meaning, you will be able to execute that algorithm without thinking, and just as fast as you normally would. its like, by the end of the day, you will feel like you've been using that algorithm for the longest time, and its already a part of you.

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Re: Do I really have to memorize all OLL and PLL algos.?

Post by korokok on Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:15 am

@benjediman

oh... ok...
it's just been my habit in memorizing in school...
anyway.. thx for the clarification...
and I hope my "Incorporating as much senses as possible" tip helps.

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Re: Do I really have to memorize all OLL and PLL algos.?

Post by Jonathan M. Tipay on Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:58 am

OLL and PLL are needed to utilize the maximum power of CFOP. But the real secret of Fridrich lies in the mastery of the F2L.

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Re: Do I really have to memorize all OLL and PLL algos.?

Post by marc_rendl on Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:46 pm

yes bro.. you have to do a lot of memorization if your chosen method in speedcubing is fridrich's. there are other methods that can minimize the number of algorithms such as petrus' method or heise's method (where no memorization is required, but you have to read the general laws of the cube and some knowledge on conjugates and commutators).. but the dominant method today is the one you've been contemplating on right now. fridrich's method is known for it's simplicity in its approach (layer by layer) and easy execution of algorithms.. another advantge of this method is that some even derived new methods from this method (ex. COLL, multislotting, empty slot).. lastly, this method can also be used in big cubes such as 4x4x4 and 5x5x5.

bottom line: fridrich's method is one of the best methods... no pain no gain... you have to LOVE memorizing them...

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Re: Do I really have to memorize all OLL and PLL algos.?

Post by Jricle on Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:20 pm

you don't need to memorize, just familiarize it.

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Re: Do I really have to memorize all OLL and PLL algos.?

Post by MetaboringJohnCañares on Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:49 pm

Jonathan M. Tipay wrote:OLL and PLL are needed to utilize the maximum power of CFOP. But the real secret of Fridrich lies in the mastery of the F2L.
Tama ka dyan bro. You really need to understand the ongoings within F2L. The search for the most economic therefore fastest way to execute.

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Re: Do I really have to memorize all OLL and PLL algos.?

Post by joemar135 on Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:53 pm

2 OLL algo per day!!! dats my daily habit!!!hehehe

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Re: Do I really have to memorize all OLL and PLL algos.?

Post by phatj on Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:09 pm

ako din parang nakaka discourage.. but talaga need some practice lang talaga..

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Re: Do I really have to memorize all OLL and PLL algos.?

Post by wawell24 on Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:48 pm

yan din prob ko..wahaha..pero ngeon sinasanay ko muna f2l..

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Re: Do I really have to memorize all OLL and PLL algos.?

Post by babycherles15 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:43 pm

...ung pll dapat memorize m lahat at ing oll naman sa sobrang dami nun mahirap kabisadohin pag nahihirapan ka memorize m muna ung mga posibilities sa cross ilan lang un pereo okie na rin gawa ka lang ng cross tapos un na oll. . . then memo ka ng kahit 3 lang bawat araw pero dapat lagi mo xang inuulit2 para di mo makalimutan^_^ di mo mamalayan kabisado m na pala laht. . . akin nga dinikit q ung mga copy ng mga oll algs sa mga ding2 ng kwarto at bed q para kahit saan nakikita q^_^ hehe ayos ba. . .

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