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Post by MrShiva Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:29 pm

di ko alam kung panu ko iimprove yung f2l ko... ave of 12. ko sa F2L LNG 26.21 T-T,) swerte nang maka sub 20 kung maganda ang cross..

enge naman tips... T-T and anu po ave nyu sa f2l oh?


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Post by jolo_mat2008 Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:10 pm

sorry..didnt see the "(o.h.)" thought this was normal solve..


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Post by sirian23 Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:43 pm

weh MrShiva? kala ko ba sub 25 ka na?
Tignan mo ung Advanced Technique ni Badmehisto sa youtube. Tpus du-miskubre ka lng ng mga shortcuts,F2l Algos un ang technique ko para bumulis F2L ko.
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Post by bonoan1027 Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:03 pm

Enzo Bonoan

F2L averages
(hand scrambles)

11.20
11.45
8.57
9.53
12.64

Bad look ahead.. I usually do sub 11-10

Tip: Use symmetries...
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Post by Lloyd Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:13 pm

w0w ang bilis nga ng F2L nyo eh

ako nga

nd tataas ng 15 sec

pag malas umaabot ng 17 sec

but mabilis OLL ko
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Post by bakeru08 Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:31 pm

uhmm diba pang-OH tong thread na to?

ang f2l ko sa OH nagrrange from 18-22 secs.
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Post by MrShiva Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:27 pm

@sirian ave of 5 ko sa scramble sub 20 me T-T
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Post by luigiyotoko Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:44 pm

i do 26 i also need tips...but i think there is a thread like this
plus, look ahead
and, do slow solves
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Post by Brian Nicole Uy Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:22 am

This is my average for the F2L(Two hands)(My OH average on F2L is still undetermined but it is aroung 20 seconds):

_____RubiksDJ Best average statistics for May 17, 2008, 5:56:35 PM_____

Average : 7.79 seconds

Best time : 5.99 seconds
Worst time : 9.54 seconds
Standard deviation : 0.79

Times
1) 6.67 U B2 R2 F' D L B F2 D' L R2 D2 L' B F2 U2 R' F2 D' L' R2 F' D2 L B
2) 7.98 L R' F D' B' R2 F' D B2 R' F2 D' L R2 F' D2 B2 F2 D' L B' R D2 L' B
3) 7.11 F U2 L' B' R D2 L2 B R' F U2 L2 B' R F' D L' B2 R' F D' L2 B' R2 F'
4) 7.82 D2 L' B F2 U' L B' R F' U2 L' B2 R' F D L2 B' R2 F' U2 B2 R' F2 D L2
5) 7.02 L2 B' R2 F' D R D2 L2 B R' F U2 B' R F' D L2 B2 R' F D' B' R2 F' D2
6) 8.68 R' F D' L2 B' R2 F' D B2 R' F2 D' L2 R2 F' D2 B2 F2 D' L R2 D2 L' B R'
7) (5.99) D2 L' B R' F U' L2 B' R F' U2 L' B2 R' F D L2 B' R2 F' U2 B2 R' F2 D
8 ) 9.28 F' D2 L B F2 D' L' R2 D2 L' B F2 U2 L B' R F' D L' B2 R' F D' L2 B'
9) 7.72 U B2 R' F2 D L2 R2 F' D' B2 F2 D L R2 D' L' B R' D2 L2 B' F2 U2 L' B2
10) 7.53 R D2 L' B F2 U' L B' R D' L' F' D2 B2 F2 D' L R2 D2 L' B F2 U' L2 B'
11) 8.14 B' R2 F U2 B2 F' D L R2 F2 D' L' B F' D2 L B' F2 D' L' B R D2 L2 B'
12) (9.54) L' B' R D2 L' B R' F U2 L2 B' D' L' R2 D2 L2 B F2 U2 L' B' R D2 L2 B2

The things I do are, the 41 common F2L cases(http://www.cubestation.co.uk/cs2/index.php?page=3x3x3/cfop/f2l/f2l )(I found most of them by myself).
After I know those 41 common cases, I mirror imaged them so that I can do those 41 cases to 4 angles so I don't have to do much cube rotations.
After that, I studied the Empty Slotting(Adjacent) with their symmetries(www.cubeloop.com).

Next I am going to look at the Yu Nakajima's F2L, so that it can give me new ways, direction and ideas to plan my own more fingertrick friendly F2Ls and learn the remaining Empty slotting.

But learning all those above would not be useful if you are not going to improve your "recognition" and "look ahead".

To have good recognition:
1) Good lighting conditions
2) Good stickers
3) You always stick on solving a certain color first(Ex. Always solve the white cross first, or always solve with the yellow as the cross first)
4) If you start with yellow or white, you have to be able to distinguish the following color pairs from the White and Yellow Color: Red/Blue, Red/Green, Orange/Blue and Orange/Green.
[Fifth) You have to memorize color triads so that you just need to look at the two sides of a corner(Ex. If you see white/blue then the third color must be an Orange or a Red.
[sixth) Eat foods rich in Vitamin A


For Look ahead:

1) Same as the number 1 and 2 of the recognition
2) You have to be able to predict where the corner-edge pair, that you found, will go.
3) Try this: When you saw an F2L pair, execute it SUBCONSCIOUSLY and CONSCIOUSLY look for the next corner-edge pair.
4) If you are having hard time doing the 2nd and 3rd above, you have to do "Slow move Solves". In slow move solves, you solve the 3x3 in a slow but uniform way. You can use a metronome(www.metronomeonline.com) for that.

Just Practice
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Post by MrShiva Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:59 am

Brian Nicole Uy wrote:This is my average for the F2L(Two hands)(My OH average on F2L is still undetermined but it is aroung 20 seconds):

_____RubiksDJ Best average statistics for May 17, 2008, 5:56:35 PM_____

Average : 7.79 seconds

Best time : 5.99 seconds
Worst time : 9.54 seconds
Standard deviation : 0.79

Times
1) 6.67 U B2 R2 F' D L B F2 D' L R2 D2 L' B F2 U2 R' F2 D' L' R2 F' D2 L B
2) 7.98 L R' F D' B' R2 F' D B2 R' F2 D' L R2 F' D2 B2 F2 D' L B' R D2 L' B
3) 7.11 F U2 L' B' R D2 L2 B R' F U2 L2 B' R F' D L' B2 R' F D' L2 B' R2 F'
4) 7.82 D2 L' B F2 U' L B' R F' U2 L' B2 R' F D L2 B' R2 F' U2 B2 R' F2 D L2
5) 7.02 L2 B' R2 F' D R D2 L2 B R' F U2 B' R F' D L2 B2 R' F D' B' R2 F' D2
6) 8.68 R' F D' L2 B' R2 F' D B2 R' F2 D' L2 R2 F' D2 B2 F2 D' L R2 D2 L' B R'
7) (5.99) D2 L' B R' F U' L2 B' R F' U2 L' B2 R' F D L2 B' R2 F' U2 B2 R' F2 D
8 ) 9.28 F' D2 L B F2 D' L' R2 D2 L' B F2 U2 L B' R F' D L' B2 R' F D' L2 B'
9) 7.72 U B2 R' F2 D L2 R2 F' D' B2 F2 D L R2 D' L' B R' D2 L2 B' F2 U2 L' B2
10) 7.53 R D2 L' B F2 U' L B' R D' L' F' D2 B2 F2 D' L R2 D2 L' B F2 U' L2 B'
11) 8.14 B' R2 F U2 B2 F' D L R2 F2 D' L' B F' D2 L B' F2 D' L' B R D2 L2 B'
12) (9.54) L' B' R D2 L' B R' F U2 L2 B' D' L' R2 D2 L2 B F2 U2 L' B' R D2 L2 B2

The things I do are, the 41 common F2L cases(http://www.cubestation.co.uk/cs2/index.php?page=3x3x3/cfop/f2l/f2l )(I found most of them by myself).
After I know those 41 common cases, I mirror imaged them so that I can do those 41 cases to 4 angles so I don't have to do much cube rotations.
After that, I studied the Empty Slotting(Adjacent) with their symmetries(www.cubeloop.com).

Next I am going to look at the Yu Nakajima's F2L, so that it can give me new ways, direction and ideas to plan my own more fingertrick friendly F2Ls and learn the remaining Empty slotting.

But learning all those above would not be useful if you are not going to improve your "recognition" and "look ahead".

To have good recognition:
1) Good lighting conditions
2) Good stickers
3) You always stick on solving a certain color first(Ex. Always solve the white cross first, or always solve with the yellow as the cross first)
4) If you start with yellow or white, you have to be able to distinguish the following color pairs from the White and Yellow Color: Red/Blue, Red/Green, Orange/Blue and Orange/Green.
[Fifth) You have to memorize color triads so that you just need to look at the two sides of a corner(Ex. If you see white/blue then the third color must be an Orange or a Red.
[sixth) Eat foods rich in Vitamin A


For Look ahead:

1) Same as the number 1 and 2 of the recognition
2) You have to be able to predict where the corner-edge pair, that you found, will go.
3) Try this: When you saw an F2L pair, execute it SUBCONSCIOUSLY and CONSCIOUSLY look for the next corner-edge pair.
4) If you are having hard time doing the 2nd and 3rd above, you have to do "Slow move Solves". In slow move solves, you solve the 3x3 in a slow but uniform way. You can use a metronome(www.metronomeonline.com) for that.

Just Practice
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Post by cupid Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:02 pm


12-13. something.,
tips?.,
look ahead.,
learn some advance cases.,
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Post by strawberryshake Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:11 pm


average ko ng f2l lng...
mga 12 cguro
practice lng nmn un eh
bibilis ka na ...
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Post by DevilMayCry Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:26 pm

ako 16secs
pagtama ang cross nakaayos na at 1st pair ng f2l mga
13 secs lang

complete solve mga 27 secs

mabagal ako sa pll

pero napaka bilis ng 2 look oll ko
mga 2 secs lang ang oll ko

sa pll lang talaga mahirap

"may 21 pll ba na puro right lang at up?"

mahirap kasi pag may D at B eh saka L
"
TPIS

for white on bottom, yellow on top

sa inspection look for 2 edge, example W&blue and W&green
lagay mo sila sa tama nilang position, next
look for your first 2 F2l pairs

then tapusin mo yung f2l mismo
saka mo na lang ilagay yung W&red at W&Orange sa lugar nila

tip ko lang to ha, pero ikaw ang makakadiscover ng sarili mong style

"this type of solving ay nakuha ko sa roux method"
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Post by Mr.Prince_X06 Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:41 pm

f2l lang?.. 6-12 depends sa cross.
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Post by Guest Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:54 pm

ako!! around 45seconds!!
mahirap talaga mag OH nang walang LUBE!
hehe.. pero dun ako nasasanay e... praktis na lang ako siguro

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Post by ni09ne Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:06 pm

@hwoarang..sa 2hands?sub13 ako..sa OH sub25..ahehe..plus mabagal pa LL ko sa OH..kaya nasa sub45-50 ako..gsto ko nga din mapabilis ang OH ko e..
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Post by Guest Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:01 am

ni09ne wrote:@hwoarang..sa 2hands?sub13 ako..sa OH sub25..ahehe..plus mabagal pa LL ko sa OH..kaya nasa sub45-50 ako..gsto ko nga din mapabilis ang OH ko e..

sa 2 hands, sub 18 siguro ako hanggang f2l...

sa OH lang talaga ako nahihirapan..
ndi ko pa nga rin alam proper paghawak at pagrotate using one hand e,...
saka ko na langyun kakaririn..
busy sa skul at 2hands 3x3x3 e.. hehe

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Post by xyborgcubinots Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:25 pm

f2l average ko 2H hmh sub14...OH SUB25
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Post by ni09ne Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:04 pm

hwoarang..sub 25 naba?dapat nasa sub15-16 ang F2l ata para magsub25?ahehe..
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