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Post by bundat on Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:10 pm

Tinatry ko na derecho na sa memorization ng all full F2L, OLL, and PLL algos... di ko kaya Crying or Very sad

So few questions lang na gusto kong malaman from you, the reader...
- dumaan ba ikaw sa intuitive F2L, or straight to algos na?
- Nag 2-look PLL and OLL ka ba, or full algos na kagad?
- Ganong katagal bago ka natuto?
- Average solve time mo.

So far, nagiintuitive F2L ako, pero antagal nya talaga (30-40 secs).
Yung PLL and OLL, may kodigo pa waa.

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Re: Pano kayo natuto ng CFOP/Fridrich?

Post by xiphuscube on Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:15 pm

Ako I tried learning the intuitive F2L, para practice na rin for color/pairing recognition. Then I jumped to learning PLLs. So far, mga 16 cases p lng memorize ko. But now, I average mga 54sec na. Mejo mabagal pa kasi F2l color/pairing recognition ko hehehehe. Up to now, puro two look OLL pa rin ako kasi andami kelangan imemorize. And I think mejo mabilis na ko na rin ung two look OLL so siguro pag na-master ko n lng ung F2l and PLLs then saka ko na imememorize ung OLL ^_^

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Re: Pano kayo natuto ng CFOP/Fridrich?

Post by S a s o r i on Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:18 pm

intuitive F2L ako less 7 OLL tapos more than half PLL lang ang alam ko... average ko mga 41 something... more than 2 months na ako nag cucube.. sadyang mabagal lang improvements ko


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Re: Pano kayo natuto ng CFOP/Fridrich?

Post by bundat on Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:20 pm

Off topic pero... haha wow astig, Souji Tendo yung avatar mo xiphus!
Henshin!!
Hehehe, namimiss ko na yung Kabuto... ang tanging Masked Rider na nagustuhan ko since Rider Black.

Yeah, 1 week pa lang rin ako nagiintuitive F2L eh, busy pa ako, kaya 5-10 cubes a day lang. Maybe I'm just expecting too much too quickly.

Nakakainis kasi yung last layer, di ko maintindihan pano ko sya sisimulan kabisaduhin. Tinry kong paulit ulit magsolve para malaman yung recurring/often cases, at yun muna kakabisaduhin ko... kaso parang wala. Sad

OO nga pala, tatanong ko rin, gano katagal kayo sa F2L, para makita ko kung gano ako kabano hahahaha.

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Re: Pano kayo natuto ng CFOP/Fridrich?

Post by xiphuscube on Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:22 pm

hehehe HENSHIN!

Newei, try mo muna memorize ung PLLs. kasi para sakin ok lng na kahit two look muna sa OLL. Tsaka sobrang daming cases kasi ung sa OLL. Kakabanas XD.

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Re: Pano kayo natuto ng CFOP/Fridrich?

Post by iruel117 on Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:23 pm

bundat wrote:Tinatry ko na derecho na sa memorization ng all full F2L, OLL, and PLL algos... di ko kaya Crying or Very sad

So few questions lang na gusto kong malaman from you, the reader...
- dumaan ba ikaw sa intuitive F2L, or straight to algos na?
Yes,hanggang ngayon gamit ko parin
- Nag 2-look PLL and OLL ka ba, or full algos na kagad?
Nope,nagsipag akong aralin lahat
- Ganong katagal bago ka natuto?
3 weeks
- Average solve time mo.
pagkatpos nyun sub35 ngayon sub 23

So far, nagiintuitive F2L ako, pero antagal nya talaga (30-40 secs).
Yung PLL and OLL, may kodigo pa waa.

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Re: Pano kayo natuto ng CFOP/Fridrich?

Post by jusay_mitch29 on Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:27 pm

what is 2look pll and oll

ako intuitive f2l which takes 35sec the least... 17 pll and i never counted the oll's i avarage 48 sec... indi ko po kinakarir kakatamad kasi e...

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Re: Pano kayo natuto ng CFOP/Fridrich?

Post by ynajatrice on Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:29 pm

dumaan ba ikaw sa intuitive F2L, or straight to algos na?
- sinubukan ko ang intuitive pero ambagal talaga
Nag 2-look PLL and OLL ka ba, or full algos na kagad?
- 4-look LL, yung 2-step OLL at PLL
Ganong katagal bago ka natuto?
- i'm in PLL training sa ngaun, targeting sub-25 in 4 months
Average solve time mo.
- sub-30

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Re: Pano kayo natuto ng CFOP/Fridrich?

Post by bundat on Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:00 am

iruel117 wrote:
Yes,hanggang ngayon gamit ko parin

Wow, intuitive F2L na near 20 sec. average yung full solve?
Nice!
Mali pala sukat ko sa intuitive F2L ko... near 1 minute pala sya Sad

For the LL... na-inspire ako ni ynajatrice, kaya tinry ko mag 2-Look OLL (and kodigo-PLL wakoko) grabe... sobrang laking difference in difficulty mula dun sa full OLL. At least, nagkakaprogress na ko sa LL! Razz

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Re: Pano kayo natuto ng CFOP/Fridrich?

Post by eaU^ on Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:16 am

So few questions lang na gusto kong malaman from you, the reader...
- dumaan ba ikaw sa intuitive F2L, or straight to algos na?

*intuitive gamit ko gang naun sa F2L.

- Nag 2-look PLL and OLL ka ba, or full algos na kagad?

*2lok OLL ako gang naun kasi cross casses plng alam ko tapos sa PLL dati din 2 look ako pero ngaun FULL PLL na..katamad mag memo ng OLL kasi hirap set-up

- Ganong katagal bago ka natuto?

*forgot*

- Average solve time mo.

nguan sub 30 prin dna umusad

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Re: Pano kayo natuto ng CFOP/Fridrich?

Post by bnonymous on Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:21 am

noob question: 2 Look PLL and OLL??

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Re: Pano kayo natuto ng CFOP/Fridrich?

Post by igiul on Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:42 am

follow up ko lang question ni bnonymous. ano po ang 2look pll? hehehe.. pati narin ang intuitive f2l?

sarry kakastart ko lang po mag cube XD

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Re: Pano kayo natuto ng CFOP/Fridrich?

Post by lorcan on Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:15 am

tyaga lng sa pag mememo

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Re: Pano kayo natuto ng CFOP/Fridrich?

Post by thugster_9904 on Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:34 am

Hi guys.. Ako din intuitive parin, ayokong cram ung utak Q ng F2L.. Instead, OLL's and PLL's muna Sub 50 sec na Q with only 5 OLL and 5 PLL's...


Lastly, Hndi Q force sarili Q na magkabisa, kung kelan Q lng magustuhan.. Saka me klasm8 kasi me na mahilig gumawa ng shortcuts sa OLL tulad nung "TANK shape na nasa harap ung ilaw" Ahehe...

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Re: Pano kayo natuto ng CFOP/Fridrich?

Post by xiphuscube on Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:43 pm

igiul wrote:follow up ko lang question ni bnonymous. ano po ang 2look pll? hehehe.. pati narin ang intuitive f2l?

sarry kakastart ko lang po mag cube XD

Two-Look OLL and PLL split each of the two steps of Fridrich last layer into two, corners and edges. As this greatly reduces the number of algorithms required, these serve as perfect stepping stones before advancing to full PLL and OLL.

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Re: Pano kayo natuto ng CFOP/Fridrich?

Post by basilcute on Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:36 pm

na try ko pong e memo lahat ng algo sa F2L, pero ang hirap... kaya intuitive F2L nalang gamit ko... ang bagal nga eh... 20-40 secs sa F2L palang... 2 secs sa cross... den memo ko OLL na may cross... haha! mga 8 algo lahat un... mabilis naman ang pag execute ko, kaya mga 20-30 sec... den 2 look PLL naman... haha! kaya, TOTAL=ang bagal!! bounce

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Re: Pano kayo natuto ng CFOP/Fridrich?

Post by jaypee on Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:56 pm

aq intuitive f2l dn... pero mga 35 secs lng lhat.. sa cross aq nabobobo... halos kinain 10 sec.. haiz... tpos oll ko... mga 3 convert pa... kxe sune lng ang alam ko ee... T_T pero kpag sinuwerte... dretcho sune... wow!! ang bilis... tpos sa pll.. isang convert lng sa u perm... ayos na... sakto 1min,... hehe ^^,

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Re: Pano kayo natuto ng CFOP/Fridrich?

Post by meaty21 on Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:28 pm

ako din, intuitive f2l, pero nagulat ako kasi ung intuitive f2l ko, halos kapareho nung algos na nasa danscubestation. except dun sa corner piece facing up. dun ako natatagalan mejo. OLL ko, maximum of 3 look kasi 16 lang ata kabisado ko. PLL ko 2 look kasi kulang pa ko ng 2 PLL cases. 1 week kasi ko nag LBL tapos derecho CFOP na. im averaging(12 cubes) 27.xx kada session. practice lang ng look ahead sa f2l, un kasi ung pinaka kumakain ng time eh. ngayon im aiming na maka 11-14 sec f2l para bilis oras. practice lang! at wag magsasawa! Very Happy

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Re: Pano kayo natuto ng CFOP/Fridrich?

Post by McNizzty on Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:09 am

ako din intuitive f2l ang ginagawa ko ehh... mas madali sa cross lang ako nag kakalat..

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Re: Pano kayo natuto ng CFOP/Fridrich?

Post by kmcruz09 on Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:12 am

intuitive F2L ginagawa ko, pero mabagal pa. 2days plang akong F2L. 2-look OLL for most cases (around 15 memorized ko) tapos sa PLL V, F tska yung 2 NPerm nlang kulang ko. Average = Around 50s, compared to sub 35 pag LBL ako. Hay.

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Re: Pano kayo natuto ng CFOP/Fridrich?

Post by trane2122 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:27 am

waaaaaaaa.... grabeh... aq near 1 minute ee. F2L plang. tpos sune then pll. aun lagpas 1 minute T_T

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Re: Pano kayo natuto ng CFOP/Fridrich?

Post by bulleteliz on Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:27 pm

xiphuscube wrote:
igiul wrote:follow up ko lang question ni bnonymous. ano po ang 2look pll? hehehe.. pati narin ang intuitive f2l?

sarry kakastart ko lang po mag cube XD

Two-Look OLL and PLL split each of the two steps of Fridrich last layer into two, corners and edges. As this greatly reduces the number of algorithms required, these serve as perfect stepping stones before advancing to full PLL and OLL.

Ah!! un pob ung 2-look?? eh ung 4-look LL?? nuh pu un?!my 3-look LL P?

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Re: Pano kayo natuto ng CFOP/Fridrich?

Post by Jonathan M. Tipay on Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:07 am

2 Look LL means you solve the orientation and permutation of the last layer with 1 algorithm each.

3 Look LL means you solve the orientation with 2 algorithms and the permutation with 1 algorithm (or vice versa... haven't heard of a 1-look OLL and 2-look PLL though)

4 Look LL means you solve the orientation with 2 algorithms and the permutation with 2 algorithms. I think this is divided into stages: Edge orientation, corner orientation, edge permutation and corner permutation (much like the BLD methods).

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