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Post by Syalang on Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:12 am

guys! k lang ba 4 look LL? 52sec ung avg ko at 38sec ata ung best time ko.. just got lucky..

30sec ung F2L ko.. ano po ma advice nyu? nahihirapan ako mag memo...
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Post by eaU^ on Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:26 am

ok lng po na 4 look LL walng kaso ung as long as na willing kng matuto ng mga algo. ako nga minsan 3 look pa OLL ko... kaya mo yan... bilis mo n nga eh ako dati sub 2mins nung nag aaral akong mag F2L dba. kaya mo yan.. try mo din manuod ng ibng mga video sa you tube tutorial, pwd k ding mag print ng mga printable pages ng OLL and PLL, basta search search mo lng kaya mo yan.. !!!

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Re: PAki read nyu po.. nid talaga advice

Post by Syalang on Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:48 am

Eh... 6 lang PLL algo memo ko at konte OLL algo... haha...
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Re: PAki read nyu po.. nid talaga advice

Post by papplazy on Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:55 am

"It doesnt matter how you solve it, what matters is how fast you solve it"
ika nga nila... Pero with that in mind, madami dami kang kelangan pag daanan para maka solve ng mabilis.

Una okay naman yung 4 Look OLL para dun sa average mo. Basta't may balak ka pang mag-improve dun. I suggest you don't dwell on it, lipat ka na agad sa 3look tas 2look tas 1look, as early as possible. Pag nasanay ka baka tamarin ka na mag aral ng OLL, madami dami pa naman yun.

F2L building is crucial, usually it what makes or breaks a solve, yung LL naman mejo di na gaanong pinapag-isipan eh kaya lumilipas nalang yun. F2L requires thought and planning. Malamang lamang sa hindi, kaya umaabot ng 30 seconds yung F2L mo dahil mano mano mo hinahanap yung pairs. I suggest you train your "Look-ahead" and "Planning ahead". Habang nagbuibuild ka ng isang F2L pair, dapat makita mo na kung san yung susunod na pair, that way walang oras na nasasayang sa paghahanap. At habang ginagawa mo din yung isang pair, dapat naisip mo na yung diskarte mo sa susunod na pair. Para mapractice yun, wag ka muna mag timer. Try to solve it slowly para ma-observe mo kung san pumupunta yung mga kulay. Tas pag kampante ka na sa pag gawa mo ng F2L try mo na i-time yung sarili mo. Most likely malaki laki narin yung time na nabawas mo. Hope this helps. Cheers!

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Re: PAki read nyu po.. nid talaga advice

Post by kroz on Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:08 pm

try to memorize kahit ung 7 cases lng ng cross sa oll,
malaking tulong yun,
at kahit isang dot case lang ng oll,
dun sa 7 cases ng cross di naman siya ganun kahirap kabisaduhin,
tpos maghanap ka na ng isang dot case sa oll na sa tingin mo eh madaling kabisaduhin at iexecute...
mabilis ka na nga dun eh,
sa f2l naman, try to solve not only in the Right Front position,
malaking tulong kung kaya mo ding iinsert yung isang pair ng f2l
kahit saang position, sa kaliwa man yan o sa likod,
mabagal pa din f2l ko siguro sub 20, minsan sub 25 pa
pero malaking kabawasan sa segundo yun,
syempre mahalaga look forward para walang sayang na segundo,
sa ngayon pinagaaralan ko padin yung dirediretso sa f2l...
enjoy, sana makatulong...
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Re: PAki read nyu po.. nid talaga advice

Post by Syalang on Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:49 pm

thnx guys! ganda mga advyc nyu... uhmm.. 2 look kc OLL ko at 2 look din PLL.. kaya 4 look lahat
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Post by S a s o r i on Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:58 pm

sama ka sa mga cubemeet para maaply mo ung mga advice nila...

mas maganda kung sa personal ka makakakuha ng advices...
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Post by Syalang on Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:59 pm

taga san ka po??? hmm... nakakahiya kc eh.. noob ko talaga
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Re: PAki read nyu po.. nid talaga advice

Post by cupid on Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:56 pm

hmmm..try mo mag look ahead ka after performing ur first f2l..maka2tulong un..and dpt mas smooth ung flow ng finger tricks and ung ibng separated, connected, insert corner and insert edge pde mu ding imemorize..

hope my advice will help..prctice lng po..
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Re: PAki read nyu po.. nid talaga advice

Post by chaos2121 on Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:21 pm

try look ahead minimize mo sa 8 to 10 moves ung pagwa ng cross then sa f2l look ahead make ur f2L intuitive ok?

sa OLL memo mo dpat lht ng kya mo yan bakasyon namn eh try mo 2-3 OLL kda 1 day tpos 1 pll aus un malki madededuct sa time mo

kailangn mgfocus ka sa speed wagka mataranta at slow solve lng ok minimize mo din ung turning ng cube ok??

sana nka help ako ehheeh
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Re: PAki read nyu po.. nid talaga advice

Post by Syalang on Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:58 pm

thnx sa advice... wah! cno sa inyu sasali sa rubiks open dito sa cbu? hmm... apreciate ko 2long nyu
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Re: PAki read nyu po.. nid talaga advice

Post by kmcruz09 on Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:54 am

papplazy wrote:[i]F2L building is crucial, usually it what makes or breaks a solve, yung LL naman mejo di na gaanong pinapag-isipan eh kaya lumilipas nalang yun.

I agree. Yung LL part kasi based on memorization, as long as kabisado mo lahat ng algs, you can do LL in 10s or less. F2L is the hard part kasi dun talaga kailangan gamitin yung utak and great look ahead.

ayos lang yan sub-40 ako dati sa 4look LL. Tapos LBL pa. Smile)
Basta practice mo lng F2L mo, ganyan din ako dati.
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Post by terisiare121 on Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:28 pm

4 Look LL is perfectly fine and one can still get great times with it.


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Post by xyborgcubinots on Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:38 pm

hmh memorze ka pa ng OLL at PLL hmh at ung f2l mo bilisan mo pa...ung LOOK AHEAD pala...kita mo bibilis ka pa...good luck...lhappy cubing...~~!!!!

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Re: PAki read nyu po.. nid talaga advice

Post by Syalang on Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:55 pm

uhmm... ilang araw ba usualy ma memo ung OLL at PLL?
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Post by pepesmith on Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:36 pm

@syalang pll muna po unahin nio kasi mas onti cia tapos convinient pa... saka 2look OLL k n pla ibig sabihin alam m n ung 7 basic OLLs... tapos ung f2l mo 30s.. hmmm... pipiratahan ko ung kasabihan ni master paulo "color recognition lang yan!" hehehe

kung gano katagal mag memo ng OLL and PLL... depende s sipag mo saka memory mo ^_^

sa pag memo ng PLL and OLL try mo basahin ung algs then sundan mo ng kamay mo... tapos ulit ulitin mo lng hangang masanay k n ^_^ wag mo imemo letter per letter mahihili k lng nun ^_^

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Re: PAki read nyu po.. nid talaga advice

Post by Syalang on Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:02 pm

thnx sa advice.. nu ba 7 basic OLLS? hmm.. ung mga may cross?
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Re: PAki read nyu po.. nid talaga advice

Post by lorcan on Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:18 pm

Syalang wrote:guys! k lang ba 4 look LL? 52sec ung avg ko at 38sec ata ung best time ko.. just got lucky..

30sec ung F2L ko.. ano po ma advice nyu? nahihirapan ako mag memo...

k lng yan! sa una tlga gnyan!

mamemo/o tgnan mo lang ung movement ng atoms ng cube... lahat ng

algos na mgnda ng F2l OLL at PLL at mgndang execution na



lage 7 moves ang cross mo aabot k ng sub25 at matinding prctice aabot k

ng sub 20 hehehe
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