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math and cubing... bestfriends?!
ayon sa aking pag-aaral sa unibersidad ng aking kwarto...
i mean, tunay ba na kapag magaling magsolve ng cube, magaling sa math?
especially yung mga nagsosolve ng hindi nagpapaturo o nagreresearch...
wala lang, pansin ko lang...
hehe...
lahat kasi ng kakilala ko na nagrurubiks, may dunong(ang lalim) sa math e,,,
i mean, tunay ba na kapag magaling magsolve ng cube, magaling sa math?
especially yung mga nagsosolve ng hindi nagpapaturo o nagreresearch...
wala lang, pansin ko lang...
hehe...
lahat kasi ng kakilala ko na nagrurubiks, may dunong(ang lalim) sa math e,,,
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Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!
i think so. i think (just my opinion) that the same parts of the brain are being used for math and speedcubing. kasi, puro analysis (f2l slow solving) ang kailangan mo para mag-improve. kailangan mo din ng i-program sa utak mo ang mga algorithms as if bahagi na siya ng system mo. the same thing with math, may mga formula na sobrang basic na dapat sa iyo that you just have to use them upon your disposal when soving really difficult math problems. (unlike studying language and literature which uses a totally different part of the brain - puro reasoning naman ang gamit mo dito).
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hindi magaling sa math ang marunong mag-cube since there are tutorials ngayon available sa internet, one has the option not to solve the cube in a mathematical manner..
but in rephrasing the question:
magaling ba sa math ang kayang mag-paliwanag kung paano nag-wowork ang rubik's cube using group theory (w/o any reference sa internet)?
my answer is, "he may be a mathematician tulad ni benjo".. haha
but in rephrasing the question:
magaling ba sa math ang kayang mag-paliwanag kung paano nag-wowork ang rubik's cube using group theory (w/o any reference sa internet)?
my answer is, "he may be a mathematician tulad ni benjo".. haha
marc_rendl- 2x2x2
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Nope. Walang kinalaman ang Algs sa Log. That's what most people think.
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Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!
marc_rendl wrote:hindi magaling sa math ang marunong mag-cube since there are tutorials ngayon available sa internet, one has the option not to solve the cube in a mathematical manner..
but in rephrasing the question:
magaling ba sa math ang kayang mag-paliwanag kung paano nag-wowork ang rubik's cube using group theory (w/o any reference sa internet)?
my answer is, "he may be a mathematician tulad ni benjo".. haha
kaya nga po sabi ko,
Hwoarang wrote:especially yung mga nagsosolve ng hindi nagpapaturo o nagreresearch...
wahehe..
PEACE!
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Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!
hmmmm...seguro, usually in our class those who speedcube are the ones having high grades in our math class.. that's my observation..
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Simple answer: no. No need to expound this. Kahit sinong magaling mag-memo, research, or what-have-you eh kayang maging magaling sa cube.
Although yung mga pinakamalulupit sa cubing world, mathematicians talaga, tulad nina Pochmann, Stern, Garron, and Bruchem.
Although yung mga pinakamalulupit sa cubing world, mathematicians talaga, tulad nina Pochmann, Stern, Garron, and Bruchem.
Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!
dipende sa tau kung saan sya seryoso ahahaha
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Jome wrote:Although yung mga pinakamalulupit sa cubing world, mathematicians talaga, tulad nina Pochmann, Stern, Garron, and Bruchem.
idagdag ko dito si macky. sumasali siya sa mga math olympiads.
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Hwoarang wrote:marc_rendl wrote:hindi magaling sa math ang marunong mag-cube since there are tutorials ngayon available sa internet, one has the option not to solve the cube in a mathematical manner..
but in rephrasing the question:
magaling ba sa math ang kayang mag-paliwanag kung paano nag-wowork ang rubik's cube using group theory (w/o any reference sa internet)?
my answer is, "he may be a mathematician tulad ni benjo".. haha
kaya nga po sabi ko,Hwoarang wrote:especially yung mga nagsosolve ng hindi nagpapaturo o nagreresearch...
wahehe..
PEACE!
hindi kita kinonkontra.. pero kinokorek lang kita sa grammar...
"especially..." does not mean your limiting the question sa "mga nagsosolve ng hindi nagpapaturo o nagreresearch..."
so ibig sabihin, hindi mo parin tinanggal sa saklaw ng tanong yung mga nagresearch.. haha.. sana sinabi mo "excluding people who used other sources to solve the cube"..
ok? hehe
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you can not say na mathematician agad eh.
memorizing alg's is not being good in math
pero may mga taong ganun talga
tulad nung sinabi ni kuya jome
cla pochmann, bruchem are really good in mathematics
aq i'm not good in math
marunong lang.xe kung magaling aq sa math
eh d sana sisiw lang saken engineering sa BSU
i'm not good in that but i can say na may ibabatbat aq
kung PHYSICS lang ang paguusapan
tingin q nga ndi sa math magagaling ang cubers eh
tingin q sa PHYSICS
tingin q lang
may pagkakatulad xe eh.
mahirap iexplain
so think on why did i say na may pagkakatulad.
memorizing alg's is not being good in math
pero may mga taong ganun talga
tulad nung sinabi ni kuya jome
cla pochmann, bruchem are really good in mathematics
aq i'm not good in math
marunong lang.xe kung magaling aq sa math
eh d sana sisiw lang saken engineering sa BSU
i'm not good in that but i can say na may ibabatbat aq
kung PHYSICS lang ang paguusapan
tingin q nga ndi sa math magagaling ang cubers eh
tingin q sa PHYSICS
tingin q lang
may pagkakatulad xe eh.
mahirap iexplain
so think on why did i say na may pagkakatulad.
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marc_rendl wrote:
hindi kita kinonkontra.. pero kinokorek lang kita sa grammar...
"especially..." does not mean your limiting the question sa "mga nagsosolve ng hindi nagpapaturo o nagreresearch..."
so ibig sabihin, hindi mo parin tinanggal sa saklaw ng tanong yung mga nagresearch.. haha.. sana sinabi mo "excluding people who used other sources to solve the cube"..
ok? hehe
sino ba maysabing
ineexclude ko ang nagpapaturo?
kasi PWEDENG MAGPATURO ANG MAGALING SA MATH...
haha..
PEACE!!
nagets ko naman sinasabi mo..
yups.. maybe tama ka nga
thanks po sa pagkokorek if mali ako...
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Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!
ewan ko lang.. hmm.. depende kung pano mo isosolve ang isang cube..
kung mgaling ka talga sa math (logic part and reasoning) makakgawa ka ng algo mo..
on the other hand kung malakas ka mag memorize kaya kya mo rin isolve ang cube kahit walang logic or reasoning (oo meron kahit konti) .. kasi may mga cubers na base lang sa algo, di nila tinitingnan kung papaano gumagalw ang mga cubies.. hehehe..
@tungkel
cubing = physics ? hahahaha.. pwde the change of cubies position over the change of time.. hahaha..
sakin math at physics ang mag best friend.. math proves physics.. hehehe.. example newton's thermodynamics can be prove prove by using linear algbra concept..
hehehe.. peace..
kung mgaling ka talga sa math (logic part and reasoning) makakgawa ka ng algo mo..
on the other hand kung malakas ka mag memorize kaya kya mo rin isolve ang cube kahit walang logic or reasoning (oo meron kahit konti) .. kasi may mga cubers na base lang sa algo, di nila tinitingnan kung papaano gumagalw ang mga cubies.. hehehe..
@tungkel
cubing = physics ? hahahaha.. pwde the change of cubies position over the change of time.. hahaha..
sakin math at physics ang mag best friend.. math proves physics.. hehehe.. example newton's thermodynamics can be prove prove by using linear algbra concept..
hehehe.. peace..
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Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!
Ah di ako pwede
79 average ko sa math last year
partida na walang 2nd and 3rd grading period
79 average ko sa math last year
partida na walang 2nd and 3rd grading period
Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!
testing101 wrote:ewan ko lang.. hmm.. depende kung pano mo isosolve ang isang cube..
kung mgaling ka talga sa math (logic part and reasoning) makakgawa ka ng algo mo..
on the other hand kung malakas ka mag memorize kaya kya mo rin isolve ang cube kahit walang logic or reasoning (oo meron kahit konti) .. kasi may mga cubers na base lang sa algo, di nila tinitingnan kung papaano gumagalw ang mga cubies.. hehehe..
@tungkel
cubing = physics ? hahahaha.. pwde the change of cubies position over the change of time.. hahaha..
sakin math at physics ang mag best friend.. math proves physics.. hehehe.. example newton's thermodynamics can be prove prove by using linear algbra concept..
hehehe.. peace..
tama ka dun physics and math
physics use mathematics for every problem you encouter
they are the ones that really are related to each other
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Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!
erno rubik built the cube to teach geometry i think..so that's math..pero tingin ko walang koneksyon ang bilis ng pagcucube sa ability ng isang tao sa math..i'm pretty good at math..pero mabagal ako magsolve..tamad magmemorize at kung anoanopa..
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if you want a deeper understanding of the cube, definitely you need to be inclined to math.. just look at the inventor of the methods(fridrich, petrus,roux,pochmann, garron, hardwick etc) and their background... surely one cannot come up with elegant solutions to the cube if not for a deep knowledge of higher mathematics or the sciences...
and how do you define "magaling mag-solve"...is it speed, fewest moves or creating your own method...
and how do you define "magaling mag-solve"...is it speed, fewest moves or creating your own method...
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Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!
I love Mathematics...I always do...But I don't really like to cube all of the time because I have more important things to think about than the cube... So I say the cube and Mathematics are not that related...But if they are related...Maybe just a little...
And of course... If you want to invent a new method of your own...then apply Mathematics! ^_^
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Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!
wala ytang connction yung speedcubng at math....hehehe...base on my exprnce...bubu aq pgdating sa math ehhhh...i mean sa lahat ng subjks...tpos,mas mabils pa aq kysa mga frends ko na top sa skol nmin....hehehe
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