Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

math and cubing... bestfriends?!

+9
DevilMayCry
testing101
tungkel_08
Lloyd
Jome
phatj
Re1Mu2R3
marc_rendl
pajodaep
13 posters

Go down

math and cubing... bestfriends?! Empty math and cubing... bestfriends?!

Post by Guest Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:36 pm

ayon sa aking pag-aaral sa unibersidad ng aking kwarto...

i mean, tunay ba na kapag magaling magsolve ng cube, magaling sa math?
especially yung mga nagsosolve ng hindi nagpapaturo o nagreresearch...

wala lang, pansin ko lang...
hehe...

lahat kasi ng kakilala ko na nagrurubiks, may dunong(ang lalim) sa math e,,,

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

math and cubing... bestfriends?! Empty Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!

Post by pajodaep Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:31 pm

i think so. i think (just my opinion) that the same parts of the brain are being used for math and speedcubing. kasi, puro analysis (f2l slow solving) ang kailangan mo para mag-improve. kailangan mo din ng i-program sa utak mo ang mga algorithms as if bahagi na siya ng system mo. the same thing with math, may mga formula na sobrang basic na dapat sa iyo that you just have to use them upon your disposal when soving really difficult math problems. (unlike studying language and literature which uses a totally different part of the brain - puro reasoning naman ang gamit mo dito).
pajodaep
pajodaep
3x3x3
3x3x3

Male
Number of posts : 781
Age : 39
Registration date : 2007-07-16

Back to top Go down

math and cubing... bestfriends?! Empty Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!

Post by marc_rendl Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:00 pm

hindi magaling sa math ang marunong mag-cube since there are tutorials ngayon available sa internet, one has the option not to solve the cube in a mathematical manner..

but in rephrasing the question:

magaling ba sa math ang kayang mag-paliwanag kung paano nag-wowork ang rubik's cube using group theory (w/o any reference sa internet)?

my answer is, "he may be a mathematician tulad ni benjo".. haha
marc_rendl
marc_rendl
2x2x2
2x2x2

Male
Number of posts : 397
Age : 34
Registration date : 2007-10-24

Back to top Go down

math and cubing... bestfriends?! Empty Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!

Post by Re1Mu2R3 Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:51 pm

Nope. Walang kinalaman ang Algs sa Log. That's what most people think.
Re1Mu2R3
Re1Mu2R3
2x2x2
2x2x2

Number of posts : 494
Age : 33
Registration date : 2008-04-08

Back to top Go down

math and cubing... bestfriends?! Empty Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!

Post by Guest Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:11 pm

marc_rendl wrote:hindi magaling sa math ang marunong mag-cube since there are tutorials ngayon available sa internet, one has the option not to solve the cube in a mathematical manner..

but in rephrasing the question:

magaling ba sa math ang kayang mag-paliwanag kung paano nag-wowork ang rubik's cube using group theory (w/o any reference sa internet)?

my answer is, "he may be a mathematician tulad ni benjo".. haha

kaya nga po sabi ko,

Hwoarang wrote:especially yung mga nagsosolve ng hindi nagpapaturo o nagreresearch...

wahehe..
PEACE! Very Happy

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

math and cubing... bestfriends?! Empty Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!

Post by phatj Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:22 pm

hmmmm...seguro, usually in our class those who speedcube are the ones having high grades in our math class.. that's my observation..
phatj
phatj
2x2x2
2x2x2

Male
Number of posts : 291
Age : 36
Location : V&G consolacion, cebu
Registration date : 2008-03-12

Back to top Go down

math and cubing... bestfriends?! Empty Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!

Post by Jome Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:07 am

Simple answer: no. No need to expound this. Kahit sinong magaling mag-memo, research, or what-have-you eh kayang maging magaling sa cube.

Although yung mga pinakamalulupit sa cubing world, mathematicians talaga, tulad nina Pochmann, Stern, Garron, and Bruchem.
Jome
Jome
2x2x2
2x2x2

Male
Number of posts : 398
Age : 36
Location : Malate, Manila
Registration date : 2007-11-25

http://scarredpetal.livejournal.com

Back to top Go down

math and cubing... bestfriends?! Empty Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!

Post by Lloyd Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:38 am

dipende sa tau kung saan sya seryoso ahahaha
Lloyd
Lloyd
2x2x2
2x2x2

Male
Number of posts : 378
Age : 33
Location : Lagro, Fairview
Registration date : 2008-03-18

Back to top Go down

math and cubing... bestfriends?! Empty Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!

Post by pajodaep Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:42 pm

Jome wrote:Although yung mga pinakamalulupit sa cubing world, mathematicians talaga, tulad nina Pochmann, Stern, Garron, and Bruchem.

idagdag ko dito si macky. sumasali siya sa mga math olympiads.
pajodaep
pajodaep
3x3x3
3x3x3

Male
Number of posts : 781
Age : 39
Registration date : 2007-07-16

Back to top Go down

math and cubing... bestfriends?! Empty Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!

Post by marc_rendl Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:16 pm

Hwoarang wrote:
marc_rendl wrote:hindi magaling sa math ang marunong mag-cube since there are tutorials ngayon available sa internet, one has the option not to solve the cube in a mathematical manner..

but in rephrasing the question:

magaling ba sa math ang kayang mag-paliwanag kung paano nag-wowork ang rubik's cube using group theory (w/o any reference sa internet)?

my answer is, "he may be a mathematician tulad ni benjo".. haha

kaya nga po sabi ko,

Hwoarang wrote:especially yung mga nagsosolve ng hindi nagpapaturo o nagreresearch...

wahehe..
PEACE! Very Happy

hindi kita kinonkontra.. pero kinokorek lang kita sa grammar...

"especially..." does not mean your limiting the question sa "mga nagsosolve ng hindi nagpapaturo o nagreresearch..."

so ibig sabihin, hindi mo parin tinanggal sa saklaw ng tanong yung mga nagresearch.. haha.. sana sinabi mo "excluding people who used other sources to solve the cube"..

ok? hehe
marc_rendl
marc_rendl
2x2x2
2x2x2

Male
Number of posts : 397
Age : 34
Registration date : 2007-10-24

Back to top Go down

math and cubing... bestfriends?! Empty Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!

Post by tungkel_08 Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:44 am

you can not say na mathematician agad eh.

memorizing alg's is not being good in math

pero may mga taong ganun talga

tulad nung sinabi ni kuya jome

cla pochmann, bruchem are really good in mathematics

aq i'm not good in math

marunong lang.xe kung magaling aq sa math

eh d sana sisiw lang saken engineering sa BSU

i'm not good in that but i can say na may ibabatbat aq

kung PHYSICS lang ang paguusapan

tingin q nga ndi sa math magagaling ang cubers eh

tingin q sa PHYSICS

tingin q lang

may pagkakatulad xe eh.

mahirap iexplain

so think on why did i say na may pagkakatulad.
tungkel_08
tungkel_08
2x2x2
2x2x2

Male
Number of posts : 470
Age : 34
Location : marilao bulacan
Registration date : 2008-01-07

Back to top Go down

math and cubing... bestfriends?! Empty Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!

Post by Guest Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:43 pm

marc_rendl wrote:
hindi kita kinonkontra.. pero kinokorek lang kita sa grammar...

"especially..." does not mean your limiting the question sa "mga nagsosolve ng hindi nagpapaturo o nagreresearch..."

so ibig sabihin, hindi mo parin tinanggal sa saklaw ng tanong yung mga nagresearch.. haha.. sana sinabi mo "excluding people who used other sources to solve the cube"..

ok? hehe

sino ba maysabing
ineexclude ko ang nagpapaturo?

kasi PWEDENG MAGPATURO ANG MAGALING SA MATH...

haha..
PEACE!!
nagets ko naman sinasabi mo..
yups.. maybe tama ka nga

thanks po sa pagkokorek if mali ako... Very Happy


Last edited by Hwoarang on Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:11 pm; edited 1 time in total

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

math and cubing... bestfriends?! Empty Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!

Post by testing101 Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:07 pm

ewan ko lang.. hmm.. depende kung pano mo isosolve ang isang cube..

kung mgaling ka talga sa math (logic part and reasoning) makakgawa ka ng algo mo..

on the other hand kung malakas ka mag memorize kaya kya mo rin isolve ang cube kahit walang logic or reasoning (oo meron kahit konti) .. kasi may mga cubers na base lang sa algo, di nila tinitingnan kung papaano gumagalw ang mga cubies.. hehehe..

@tungkel
cubing = physics ? hahahaha.. pwde the change of cubies position over the change of time.. hahaha..

sakin math at physics ang mag best friend.. math proves physics.. hehehe.. example newton's thermodynamics can be prove prove by using linear algbra concept..

hehehe.. peace..
testing101
testing101
2x2x2
2x2x2

Male
Number of posts : 263
Age : 34
Location : manila
Registration date : 2008-01-31

Back to top Go down

math and cubing... bestfriends?! Empty Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!

Post by DevilMayCry Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:12 pm

Ah di ako pwede
79 average ko sa math last year
partida na walang 2nd and 3rd grading period
DevilMayCry
DevilMayCry
3x3x3
3x3x3

Male
Number of posts : 522
Age : 113
Location : seamans village blk 8 lot 2 C dasmarinas cavite
Registration date : 2008-03-14

http://profiles.friendster.com/cubeadik93

Back to top Go down

math and cubing... bestfriends?! Empty Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!

Post by tungkel_08 Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:32 pm

testing101 wrote:ewan ko lang.. hmm.. depende kung pano mo isosolve ang isang cube..

kung mgaling ka talga sa math (logic part and reasoning) makakgawa ka ng algo mo..

on the other hand kung malakas ka mag memorize kaya kya mo rin isolve ang cube kahit walang logic or reasoning (oo meron kahit konti) .. kasi may mga cubers na base lang sa algo, di nila tinitingnan kung papaano gumagalw ang mga cubies.. hehehe..

@tungkel
cubing = physics ? hahahaha.. pwde the change of cubies position over the change of time.. hahaha..

sakin math at physics ang mag best friend.. math proves physics.. hehehe.. example newton's thermodynamics can be prove prove by using linear algbra concept..

hehehe.. peace..


tama ka dun physics and math

physics use mathematics for every problem you encouter

they are the ones that really are related to each other
tungkel_08
tungkel_08
2x2x2
2x2x2

Male
Number of posts : 470
Age : 34
Location : marilao bulacan
Registration date : 2008-01-07

Back to top Go down

math and cubing... bestfriends?! Empty Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!

Post by jolo_mat2008 Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:25 pm

erno rubik built the cube to teach geometry i think..so that's math..pero tingin ko walang koneksyon ang bilis ng pagcucube sa ability ng isang tao sa math..i'm pretty good at math..pero mabagal ako magsolve..tamad magmemorize at kung anoanopa..
jolo_mat2008
jolo_mat2008
3x3x3
3x3x3

Male
Number of posts : 996
Age : 32
Location : QC (i live in sm north edsa..:P)
Registration date : 2008-03-18

Back to top Go down

math and cubing... bestfriends?! Empty Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!

Post by pangungusap Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:18 pm

if you want a deeper understanding of the cube, definitely you need to be inclined to math.. just look at the inventor of the methods(fridrich, petrus,roux,pochmann, garron, hardwick etc) and their background... surely one cannot come up with elegant solutions to the cube if not for a deep knowledge of higher mathematics or the sciences...

and how do you define "magaling mag-solve"...is it speed, fewest moves or creating your own method...
pangungusap
pangungusap
2x2x2
2x2x2

Number of posts : 115
Age : 40
Location : Bacoor, Cavite
Registration date : 2008-04-04

Back to top Go down

math and cubing... bestfriends?! Empty Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!

Post by stralbem Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:09 pm

I love Mathematics...I always do...But I don't really like to cube all of the time because I have more important things to think about than the cube... So I say the cube and Mathematics are not that related...But if they are related...Maybe just a little...
And of course... If you want to invent a new method of your own...then apply Mathematics! ^_^
~ILoveSchool!SchoolIsCool!~

stralbem
2x2x2
2x2x2

Female
Number of posts : 186
Age : 29
Location : ParaƱaque City! :D
Registration date : 2008-02-16

Back to top Go down

math and cubing... bestfriends?! Empty Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!

Post by emaypunk Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:55 pm

wala ytang connction yung speedcubng at math....hehehe...base on my exprnce...bubu aq pgdating sa math ehhhh...i mean sa lahat ng subjks...tpos,mas mabils pa aq kysa mga frends ko na top sa skol nmin....hehehe
emaypunk
emaypunk
2x2x2
2x2x2

Male
Number of posts : 377
Age : 35
Location : cebu
Registration date : 2008-05-02

http://emaypunk.multiply.com

Back to top Go down

math and cubing... bestfriends?! Empty Re: math and cubing... bestfriends?!

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum