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Post by jr Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:36 pm

help naman sa inyo
gawa kayo ng 2 syllables words na base sa
consonant na ito

B
K
D
G
L
M
N
P
R
S
T

ex.

"B" at "K"

BaKa T T
Bungkal F T
Bakod T F
Buko F F

T :correct orient
F :incorrect orient

itong memo method na 'to combination ng permute at orient
pra isang pasadahan nalang ang memo sa edges
yung vowels "a" yun ang T
yung "e i o u" yun ang F

for example: 123 yung cycle
2 incorrect orient
3 correct orient

ang memo words nito "BungKal"
thank you sa cooperation
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Post by S a s o r i Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:01 am

yay!! thanks haha problema ko to eh Razz

eh sa corners may maipapayo ka?? about C and A?? at numbers ang gamit ko sa Corners T_T
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Post by TheJoker Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:50 am

@sasori...

langya ka... ikaw pa nagturo sa akin ng J perm sa edge tapos ngayon ako may WCA records na...

ano nangyari sa yo... hehehehehhe... Very Happy:D:D:D:D

okay na yan corners mo... most of us ganun din ang gamit...

eto pinagaaralan ko... since same edge naman tayo... per stickers... ako White top, Red Front

Blue = B
Orange = O
Red = R
Green = G
White = W
Yellow = Y

then there are 4 of them every sides... 1234... so memo ko sa edge is this...

B1 R3 Y3... and so on... since 11 lang naman sila... madali na na...

alam ko na agad kung saan sila... alhtouhg hirap pa me... medyo di ko pa piangtutuunan maigi... kasi i'm planning on learning M2...

okay na ako sa CORNER... COCP + M2... okay na sa akin to... right now i'm averaging Sub5... maging sub4 lang okay na... hehehehehehe... Very Happy:D:D:D:D:D

3 cycle... hintayin ko na lang turuan ako ni JEROME... hehehehehe... Very Happy:D:D:D:D
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Post by bonoan1027 Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:10 pm

kuya jr, I don't use EO eh... Pano kung ganon?
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Post by kroz Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:36 pm

wow galing nito,
bale lalabas,
6 words lng na 2 syllables mememorize mo for both EO and EP,
hahaha, nice one...
thanks for this idea...
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Post by luxyz Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:58 pm

prang ganyan ung memo method ko ah.. hahaha!~

ganyan din sana gagawin ko jr, mgtatanong d2.. e buti gnwa mu na..

saken pag oriented ang pagmemo ko ang vowel nia A/E

pag ndi oriented ung edge, O/U..

ndi ko pa ntatapos ung words ko sa ganyan.. kasi kahit tigiisang word lng per pair.. almost 500words mgagawa mu eh.. kaya puro A/E muna ko..

nxt tym ko tatapusin ko na pag d na ko busy..

@bonoan.. pag nkumpleto mo yan no nid na sa EO..

@sasori.. sa corner ang ginamit ko ng competition, 2 alg lng, ung cw and ccw alg.. hanapin mo ung pair na A at C.. for example.. ung corner # 1, 3 ay C at ung 2,4 ay A,, 2 CW alg gagamitin ko.. unang CW maoorient ung 1 and 4.. den mg U2 ako tas CW alg ulet kc ung 3 mpupunta sa 1, e dba nga ung 3 ay C kya CW ggmitin ko.. maoorient ung 2 and 3.. aun.. tapos U2 ulet..
mghanap ka nlng ng praan pra mdali mo malaman kung CW pair or CCW pair ung corner.. pag nkita mo sa gilid ung white or yellow sa 1 at 4, CW pair na agad un.. tas pag nsa gilid din ng 5 and 8 CW din un, pati ndin ang 2 and 3, 6 and 7.. clockwise alg mga gagamitin sa mga un.. basta mgkatabi ung white or yellow CW un.. pero pag opposite sila, CCW alg na gagamitin mo..un eh pg mgkasamang sa baba or mgkasama sa taas..

pero pag taas at baba pinagpair mo na corner, 1and 5, kpag nsa gilid ung White or yellow, CCW un.. L' ung setup tas ccw alg na aun orient na.. pag nsa harap or nsa likod ung white or yellow, cw alg nmn..
bsta ung mga un..
ipair pair mu lng, kpag o tpos mron din case na 3A at 3C.. un pnagsasama sama ko un..

lagi ko sila dinadala sa 1 at 2 at dun ko ioorient..

yan ung gamit ko dati.. mdali lng xa mperfect pro ngaun papaltan ko na yan mghahanap na ko mas mabilis..^^ kasi npansin ko anlaki ng oras ko sa execution..

sa execution nga pla pra madali imemo.. ganto nmn gngwa ko.. dba 1 ung una ko titignan.. kunwari pupunta xa sa 2, edi 2 na titignan ko.. kung ung nkapwesto sa 2 ay 7, edi 7 ung imememo ko tas tatandaan ko ung location nun.. or itatap ko ung pwestong 2 tas sasabihin ko 7.. den tignan ko ung 7 ang nkapwesto ay 3.. tignan ko ung 3 ang nkapwesto 5 edi itatap ko ung pwestong 3 sasabihin ko 5.. tignan ko ung 5.. nkapwesto 6.. tignan ko 6, nkapwesto 4.. tatandaan ko na nkapwesto ung 4 sa 6.. kya un..
3 #s lng imemo ko 7, 5, and 4.. tapos tanda ko nadin kung san sila nkapwesto..

yan muna..
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Post by xyborgcubinots Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:17 pm

haha okei ah.. akin name ko haha...
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Post by ert_anjo Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:25 pm

waaaaa galing nito ahh.,

masubukan nga kung fit sa memo ko.,
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Post by marc_rendl Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:50 pm

if you are using m2 or 2-cycle (both by pochmann), you dont have to worry bout the orientation. i have adapted the syllable method for edges,. so here's how my memo works:

the consonant is represented by the 1st letter of the color:
r-red
b-blue
y-yelow
g-green
w-white
k-kahel (tagalog orange)

then add the a,e,i,o depending on the position, as if they are directional buttons in a game controller:
a-up
e-right
i-left
o-down

example: (RED IN FRONT, YELLOW ON TOP)
RA- means the FU sticker
RE- means the FR sticker
YO- means the UF sticker

EDIT:

BTW, been to 2cycle since monday lang.. matagal ko nang alam ang m2 at 2 cycle kaso mklimutan ko algos sa m2 kaya mastering memo muna thru 2cycle.. haha.. less than 20 mins ang solves ko.. tagal ko magmemo.. akala ko nga hindi ko magagawa.. may nagpilit lang sakin tapos di ko akalaing pwede pala ako magmemo ng visual lang.. pero naalala ko may nagpost din dati ng syllables method so gumawa ako ng sarili kong method.. ang maganda sa method na ito.. lahat ng may "e" at "i" sa magkabilang side sila lagi.. pag ginawa ko na ang m2, suitable na suitable ang memo..karamihan din ng "a" at "o" nasa M slice lang.. which lahat may algorithm na ginagawa.. very suitable.. try niyo!!!
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Post by jr Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:17 pm

wow okey din lalong ma iimprove to

marc_rendl
math major ka pala
parehas tayo

minsan nga naisip ko na gawing memo method ang
ang variables and FORMULAs
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Post by marc_rendl Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:53 pm

jr wrote:wow okey din lalong ma iimprove to

marc_rendl
math major ka pala
parehas tayo

minsan nga naisip ko na gawing memo method ang
ang variables and FORMULAs

math major saan? sa UPD? pakita ka.. hehe

UPDATE: it's been less than a week since i've been into bld cubing. and my syllalble-story memo method has helped me cut my time in at most 13mins from 20 mins (EDIT: previously using the visual method). and to think may exams ako last week which means hindi ko tlg naconsume lahat ng time ko sa bld. may slight na pagbabago akong ginawa sa pagmememo ng syllables.

tulad ng tip ni pochmann, 2 at a time sa edges in memorization para matandaan ang parity fix kung sakali, so i have adapted this into merging 2syllables at a time ang make stories out of it.. i've been merging the loci method with the syllables method.. kakatapos ko lang magbld and here's the story i made for the edges (visual parin ang corners). the solve was 8 mins(take note, bago palang ako sa bld nyan ah):

the pieces mentioned are in caps and every line is a pair of edges:

si BO-bong BE-ntong
BI-li RO-lex.
GA GO,
si GE-li de belen KA-ba?
Si RI-n RE-n(renren is my nickname), ninang (niya si) KO RA.
asan RE-galo ko? (walang kapartner kaya alam kong may parity fix)

the sentence making i made here was spontaneous and i don't want to assign words per sticker so that natural flow of memo will take place.. dagdag time ang mag-assign ng words per sticker eh. visual ang pinili ko sa corners since mas maikli naman sila.
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Post by kingpsyzor Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:18 pm

hahaha astig ung memo method nyo ha.... ^_^

@JR: paturo ha... ^_^
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