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PLL Solution for Newbie
sa mga konti lng ang kabisadong PLL at nag sisimula plng
try nio mag combine ng PLL na alam nio
ang unang una U at A Perm
tpos J,H,Z okay na po un
for example
G Perm=U perm + A Perm
ganto po kc gngwa ko ee,medyo gumanda time ko ^_^
(wala po ako nakitang gantong tread kung meron man pa del nlng po
THANKS. . .
suggestion lng po)
try nio mag combine ng PLL na alam nio
ang unang una U at A Perm
tpos J,H,Z okay na po un
for example
G Perm=U perm + A Perm
ganto po kc gngwa ko ee,medyo gumanda time ko ^_^
(wala po ako nakitang gantong tread kung meron man pa del nlng po
THANKS. . .
suggestion lng po)
banjorayos- 2x2x2
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Re: PLL Solution for Newbie
Ang tawag jan eh. 2 look.
kaso ung iba. mas basic ang 2 look.
talagang 3 na pll lang ang kailangan.
modified A perm ( ung 2 cornes lang ang sswitch)
tapos 2 algorithms na pamalit ng edges.
kaso ung iba. mas basic ang 2 look.
talagang 3 na pll lang ang kailangan.
modified A perm ( ung 2 cornes lang ang sswitch)
tapos 2 algorithms na pamalit ng edges.
Re: PLL Solution for Newbie
jOms wrote:
modified A perm ( ung 2 cornes lang ang sswitch)
is that possible? 2 corners lang? ang alam ko nd..kelangan mong kalasin cube mo para magawa mo un..baka naman may kasabay na 2 edge switch yan..parang tperm or j perm or rperm..y perm etc..
jolo_mat2008- 3x3x3
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Re: PLL Solution for Newbie
tama c jolo.. pano ang A perm kung 2 corners lang ang dapat e switch sa G perm?
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jOms wrote:
modified A perm ( ung 2 cornes lang ang sswitch)
i doubt this would be possible...
kindly check the site of Jessica fridrich to know the names of each perm..
Last edited by thirdrecords on Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:20 pm; edited 1 time in total
Re: PLL Solution for Newbie
modified a perm.. ganto po kasi..
hindi pa naka permute ang mga edges.. try nyo...
example.. ung sa pwesto ng A perm hanapin nyo ung pair dun na corners.. tapos ilagay nyo sa right side ng cube.. try to make 2 correct corners dapat naka permute na un.. bale pag ginawa nyo ung A perm. dag dagan nyo na U sa dulo. tapos mag cocorrect na lahat ng corners.. wala ka pang pakiilam sa edges kasi nga diba 2 look? pagkatapos nun sa ka mo gagawin ang Edge permutation.
ang hirap i explain. xD
http://learn2cube.com
tingnan nyo tong site ni alan chang. diba nauuna ung CPLL bago sa EPLL..
ganyan ang ibig ko sabihn. Parang ganyan. pero hindi yan exactly ang tinutukoy ko.
hindi pa naka permute ang mga edges.. try nyo...
example.. ung sa pwesto ng A perm hanapin nyo ung pair dun na corners.. tapos ilagay nyo sa right side ng cube.. try to make 2 correct corners dapat naka permute na un.. bale pag ginawa nyo ung A perm. dag dagan nyo na U sa dulo. tapos mag cocorrect na lahat ng corners.. wala ka pang pakiilam sa edges kasi nga diba 2 look? pagkatapos nun sa ka mo gagawin ang Edge permutation.
ang hirap i explain. xD
http://learn2cube.com
tingnan nyo tong site ni alan chang. diba nauuna ung CPLL bago sa EPLL..
ganyan ang ibig ko sabihn. Parang ganyan. pero hindi yan exactly ang tinutukoy ko.
Re: PLL Solution for Newbie
A perm cycles 3 corners and its overall effect is it switches 2 adjacent corners so tama kayong lahat!!!
at yung sinasabi ni joms na modified A perm ay "switches & twists/orients 2 adjacent corners" tama ba?
at yung sinasabi ni joms na modified A perm ay "switches & twists/orients 2 adjacent corners" tama ba?
omarismyname- 2x2x2
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Re: PLL Solution for Newbie
ahh gets ko na..akala ko kasi 2 corners lang talaga ang magagalaw and nothing else..haha..
jolo_mat2008- 3x3x3
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Re: PLL Solution for Newbie
hahahaha, kung may masusuggest kayong perms na pinag combined para sa indi memo na perm
plz post kayo ^_^
malaking tulong din po un ^^
plz post kayo ^_^
malaking tulong din po un ^^
banjorayos- 2x2x2
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Re: PLL Solution for Newbie
mas maganda parin na dumeretso nalng sa solve agad na perm o ung 1 look... parang ma aalter lng ung mga memo mo...
bwahahahah... sori sori.. kontra bida...haha...^_^.
bwahahahah... sori sori.. kontra bida...haha...^_^.
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Re: PLL Solution for Newbie
hindi xa actual combination pero, napapansin ko..
common tong mga combination na to sa mga perm.
R U R' U'
R U' R' U
edi parang instant 4 na moves agad ang alam mo pag alam mo na yan.
common tong mga combination na to sa mga perm.
R U R' U'
R U' R' U
edi parang instant 4 na moves agad ang alam mo pag alam mo na yan.
Re: PLL Solution for Newbie
kabisaduhin nyo nlang lahat ng perm..
hahaha..
joke lang..
hahaha..
joke lang..
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Re: PLL Solution for Newbie
charles_13 wrote:kabisaduhin nyo nlang lahat ng perm..
hahaha..
joke lang..
kung gusto mo mag joke or mag share ng joke, meron pong thread para dun... hindi po dito...
kalat ba sa txt yang joke mo? nakakatawa eh sobra... joke lang...
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modmodan................
silvester- 2x2x2
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hahaha,mahirap po kc magmemo kc may work tpos pumapasok pa ako sa school kea kung may alam keong combined perms for a certain perm post nio po,hehehe
salamat po. .
salamat po. .
banjorayos- 2x2x2
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Re: PLL Solution for Newbie
ung gmit ko ung npost n dito dti pa..
bale N perm tsaka G perm nlng kc di ko alam...
for G perm, place the 2 orriented corners s tmang kalagyan, then do any of the 2 J perms to switch the other 2 corners... after nyan edge perms nlng lalabas...
for N perm, perform E perm to switch the 2 corners den prang edge perms nlng lalabas..
aun.. sna mktulong xa.. its up to you kng anu gagamitin mo...
by the way...help nman s G perm!... huhu d ko mrecognize kng alin dun eh,, kaya 2-look pll p rin ako dyan..pti s N perm
bale N perm tsaka G perm nlng kc di ko alam...
for G perm, place the 2 orriented corners s tmang kalagyan, then do any of the 2 J perms to switch the other 2 corners... after nyan edge perms nlng lalabas...
for N perm, perform E perm to switch the 2 corners den prang edge perms nlng lalabas..
aun.. sna mktulong xa.. its up to you kng anu gagamitin mo...
by the way...help nman s G perm!... huhu d ko mrecognize kng alin dun eh,, kaya 2-look pll p rin ako dyan..pti s N perm
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Re: PLL Solution for Newbie
what I do for sa isang g perm, ay a perm ba yun, basta yung PLL for corners, then nagiging J or ( A or U, I don't know eh) ayun... depende nalang kung anung klaseng g perm.. 2 lang kasi memo kong g perm, as in yung solido, yung 2 ndi stable, hirap recognition..
OT:
kawawa naman kung di niyo papansinin oh, pansinin niyo naman, lol
OT:
kawawa naman kung di niyo papansinin oh, pansinin niyo naman, lol
i.luv.cube- 4x4x4
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Re: PLL Solution for Newbie
okay aa,
N = E + U or A???
G=J + A or U??
@justin
cno???hahahahaha
N = E + U or A???
G=J + A or U??
@justin
cno???hahahahaha
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Re: PLL Solution for Newbie
nice banjorayos, yan ang gusto gawin, i list lahat ng perms na lalabas kapag ginawa yung isang perm.
OT: wag na, di worthy pansinin, uahaha lol
OT: wag na, di worthy pansinin, uahaha lol
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Re: PLL Solution for Newbie
anong perms pede ma-combine para magawa yung Y perm???
N = left-handed J + left-handed J ???
N = left-handed J + left-handed J ???
Re: PLL Solution for Newbie
Y perm???
uhmmm akin po A perm + J perm
Pano po ung V perm????? baka may alam keong combined pa share aman po ^_^ salamat!!!
@justin ano nga un???
wahahahaha,kawawa aman un, T_T
uhmmm akin po A perm + J perm
Pano po ung V perm????? baka may alam keong combined pa share aman po ^_^ salamat!!!
@justin ano nga un???
wahahahaha,kawawa aman un, T_T
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Re: PLL Solution for Newbie
madali lang ang Y perm, kasi.. dun sa alg na gamit ko.. ung F ang simula..
OLL lang ung dulo dun..
ung isang T oll.
Y Perm Algorithm
(F R U') (R' U' R U) (R' F')
(R U R' U') (R' F R F') <--------< this isa an OLL algorithm
OLL lang ung dulo dun..
ung isang T oll.
Y Perm Algorithm
(F R U') (R' U' R U) (R' F')
(R U R' U') (R' F R F') <--------< this isa an OLL algorithm
Re: PLL Solution for Newbie
di ba lahat naman magagawa by switching 3 corners
then switching 3 edges? (or vice versa)
(hindi ko alam ang name ng perm na yun)
sa 2 algos na yun, buhay ka na.. hehe...
kaso may possibility na 3-4 look pll..
2look sa pagtama ng corner at 2look sa edges
para ndi na mag 2look sa edges, kelangang sauluhin yung algo for swithing 4 side (2algos yun)
at para ndi na mag 2look sa corners, sauluhin yung algo for switching 4 corners (1 algo lang)
summarize ko:
1-4 look:
perm for switching 3 corners then switching 3 sides (2algos)
1-2 look:
yung perm na nasa taas plus perm for switching 4corners and switching 4 edges(2+3algos)
bale sa five algos, kaya nyo na ang 2look pll!!!
(feeling expert ako oh!!)
(resulta ng tamad magmemorize)
then switching 3 edges? (or vice versa)
(hindi ko alam ang name ng perm na yun)
sa 2 algos na yun, buhay ka na.. hehe...
kaso may possibility na 3-4 look pll..
2look sa pagtama ng corner at 2look sa edges
para ndi na mag 2look sa edges, kelangang sauluhin yung algo for swithing 4 side (2algos yun)
at para ndi na mag 2look sa corners, sauluhin yung algo for switching 4 corners (1 algo lang)
summarize ko:
1-4 look:
perm for switching 3 corners then switching 3 sides (2algos)
1-2 look:
yung perm na nasa taas plus perm for switching 4corners and switching 4 edges(2+3algos)
bale sa five algos, kaya nyo na ang 2look pll!!!
(feeling expert ako oh!!)
(resulta ng tamad magmemorize)
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