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Post by silvester Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:16 pm

We all know what the main problem about using DIY cube and it its of being a "POPSTAR" cube ibig sabihin laging nagpopop and i hope this thread helps DIY users.
At last i discover some modifation tecniques i mean pinag-experementohan ko yung DIY cube ko and it has a good outcome.hindi na nagpopop ung cube unlike before i just did the ff.

1. Tangalin lahat ng spring sa core
2. Pipiin ang spring by using plies
3. press it hard, xempre magdikitdikit ung wire ng sping
4. Kailangan magkakasali-salisi ung wire ng spring para pag-pinipipi ung spring mababawasan ung haba ng spring
5. Use a knife para tiktikin yung dikit-dikit na wire ng spring para magka-salisalisi yung wire
5. Tapos icompare ung napiping spring dun sa hindi pa napipiping spring para malaman kung nawasan ba yung pinipi na spring atleast 0.5cm dapat ung mabawas na haba ng spring
6. Kapag napipi na ung lahat ng spring ibalik sa screw with washer tapos patayuin ung screw na may washer para makita kung pantay-pantay ba ung haba ng spring
7. Then ibalik na ulit sa core.



NOTE: * Be careful while pressing the spring (baka tumalsik)
* Kalangan talagang magkasalisalisi ung wire ng spring pag pinepress para mabawasan ung haba(mararaman naman un ng kamay kung napipi talaga)
* Oklang pag napasobra yung pagkakapipi kc pwede pa namang banatin ulit
* I dont even try na magputol ng spring matalas yung dulo ng pinagputulan makasira pa ng washer at ng centerpiece
* Ask nalang kayo dun sa ibang cubers na successful na nakpagbawas ng spring like ZAndro(sasori), Edgar(kingpysor),Ian(sirian),Onisgam(leo Bryan)



I hope this thread helps alot on DIy users i notice pati na pag nabawasan na ung spring hindi lang na-avoid ung madalas na pagpopop ng cube, hindi pati madaling malaspag ung pyesa kasi nga nalessen naung force of friction ng cube lalo na ung corners kasi lumalakas ung kalog ng corners pag masyadong laspag na ung cube.
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Post by Syalang Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:26 pm

salamat sa tips!
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Post by banjorayos Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:00 pm

bakit gnun prang mdalas maglock???
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Post by kidramos Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:31 pm

silvester wrote:
* Ask nalang kayo dun sa ibang cubers na successful na nakpagbawas ng spring like ZAndro(sasori), Edgar(kingpysor),Ian(sirian),Onisgam(leo Bryan)
dba si kingpsyzor c mark angelo reyes? cnu c edgar?

about sa anti pop cube,, c theJoker and pinakaexpert jan, lahat ng cube niya astig
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Post by hiro_ballesteros66 Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:08 pm

parang mahirap yung gahawin niyo mas maganda kung nag papop yung piece cube kase matututo kau na mag practice ng mag practice may experience din kayo kung paano maiiwasan ang pagpop ng piece....experience is the best teacher

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Post by kingpsyzor Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:28 am

@hiro: hnd mo pa ba ntry minsan?... bka pag ntry mo sbihin m nlng "oo nga noh!!" heheh... pro its your own preference nmn eh, kung gus2 mo try mo muna ung DIY ng ibang cubers na nkagawa na ng ganto pra macompare mo... ^_^ tpos tsaka ka mag decide kung ngustuhan mo... =)

@silvester: waaahhh.... mark name ko bro hnd edgar.... hehehe...
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Post by Brian Nicole Uy Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:02 am

This is my opinion about that DIY:
Yes, I think the topic starter here was the person who introduced me his "Pressed Springs" DIY during the Rubik's Cube Open 2008. I tried it and the performance is good, the performance still performed like an "Unpressed Springs" DIY.
No matter how hard or fast I do triggers(R U R', U R', and many more) the cube never ever pops.
I also noticed one thing, you cannot twist the corners by your fingers on the "pressed springs" DIY.

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Post by doppelmachi Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:52 am

kingpsyzor wrote:@hiro: hnd mo pa ba ntry minsan?... bka pag ntry mo sbihin m nlng "oo nga noh!!" heheh... pro its your own preference nmn eh, kung gus2 mo try mo muna ung DIY ng ibang cubers na nkagawa na ng ganto pra macompare mo... ^_^ tpos tsaka ka mag decide kung ngustuhan mo... =)

@silvester: waaahhh.... mark name ko bro hnd edgar.... hehehe...

@kingpsyzor natawa ko dun sa edgar.. hehehe

effective nga yan i've tried it dati pa hehe..
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Post by raemon Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:38 am

pls help me understand un pagpipi,
pano b un, as in mflaten xa? db bblik dn xa s dti nun?
pano un mgsasalisalisi? ano un?

tnx! Very Happy
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Post by DevilMayCry Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:21 am

tried this and it works
instead of using pliers use vise grip
or yabetubo yung may adjustment

mas madali iipitin mo lang tapos iwanan mo after 2 mins
balikan mo tapos na compressed na siya
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Post by sirian23 Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:10 pm

@banjorayos
baka masyadong maluwag.. sikipan mo pa para hinde mag lock

@silvester
hehe.. salamat sa anti-pop solution mo astig!
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Post by Re1Mu2R3 Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:12 pm

haha! "POPSTAR" I like that!

I've always been wondering kung gaganda ba ang ikot kung spring ng ballpens ang gamitin. Anyone willing to try?
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Post by silvester Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:27 pm

@raemon
kailangan talga un para di bumalik sa dati ung spring.


@kingpsyzor
xenxa na pre nawala sa icp ko real name m eh.


@banjo
higpitan mo ung screw ung di napipingot ung corner.


@ian
ur welcum


@doppelmachi
hehe...once ko palang kc namit si mark kaya nalimutan ko ung name nya.
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Post by raemon Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:50 pm

silvester wrote:@raemon
kailangan talga un para di bumalik sa dati ung spring.


@kingpsyzor
xenxa na pre nawala sa icp ko real name m eh.


@banjo
higpitan mo ung screw ung di napipingot ung corner.


@ian
ur welcum


@doppelmachi
hehe...once ko palang kc namit si mark kaya nalimutan ko ung name nya.

ndeform lng xa! gnun b tlg? di n pntay un pgkaspiral nya, kya un di ko muna tinuloy, bka kc mcra q ng 2luyan.lol!
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Post by silvester Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:00 pm

ok lang na madeform un basta pumapasok pa sa screw ung spring wala kang dapat ikabahala.
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Post by S a s o r i Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:50 pm

ginawa ko yan sa white DIY ko... smooth at ndi nagpopop...

kaso iba na ang trip kong tension ngaun...

popper haha...

at andun pa pangalan ko...

Sandro kaya un Razz
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Post by erickjaja13 Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:59 pm

ill try din sa red DIY ko...
astig siya ang smooth talaga at di pop
ang probema lang umalsik yung spring at nawala yung isa naman na diform. buti nalang my extra spring ako. hehehe..
try nyo ganda talaga...
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Post by jaypee_25 Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:35 pm

Tama si silvester.. Na-try ko na yang gawin kaya ngayon di na nagpa-pop ang DIY ko..

Pero napansin ko lang, bakit nagla-lock ng konti?.
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Post by silvester Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:27 pm

i think its either maluwag pa ung screw mo or napasobra ung bawas mo ng spring na halos wala ng friction its really happen.
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Post by erickjaja13 Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:43 pm

jaypee_25 wrote:Tama si silvester.. Na-try ko na yang gawin kaya ngayon di na nagpa-pop ang DIY ko..

Pero napansin ko lang, bakit nagla-lock ng konti?.

ganyan yung akin nung una nag lolock.
ginawa ko binanat ko ng kunti yung spring. napa sobra ata sa pipi sa spring..
yun yung para sa akin
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Post by Tharis Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:22 am

Hi! Could you please translate the tips (to English) so that I can understand?

Thank You Very Much
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Post by dinki1968 Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:43 pm

Tharis wrote:Hi! Could you please translate the tips (to English) so that I can understand?

Thank You Very Much

1. Remove springs from the core
2. Squeeze spring using pliers
3. Press it hard, of course wires will be squeezed
4. The wires should overlap one another
5. Use a knife to make the squeezed wire overlap one another
6. Then compare squeezed spring to a spring that you haven't squeeze yet, to know if the spring reduces length, it should reduce 0.5cm.
7. And if all springs are squeezed, you're all done. Weeeee ^_^
8. Then assemble it. ^_^

Awww. Nosebleed. haha
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Post by vacule28 Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:33 pm

kakagawa ko lang ngayon yang pagpipe ng spring...

grabe laki ng improvement.....

salamat ahh....
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Post by SkibuRebuc Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:46 am

i tried compressing the springs with a visegrip for several hours
but the springs went back to their former state. i tried several
times but to no avail.
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Post by TheJoker Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:55 pm

hey as i mentioned sa mga other thread that i reply about this...

loose spring means good in cutting corner and almost no lockups... lockups produce by the users... but unfortunately it is not that smooth...

by pressing screw or reducing the screw... pero i suggest pressing the screw... you loosen the tension... then smoothness of the cube... but... be aware... you will also encounter lockups... and cutting corners will reduce significantly...

but it is the cubers preferences... so iba iba talaga tayo...

pero yan ang magiging kapalit ng smooth na cube... lockups and cutting corners...

okay po... hehehehehehhe... Very Happy:D:D:D

you will gained a good to very good smoothness... depends syempre sa pagkaka press ng spring...
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