Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
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Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
could you share some of you're techniques in memorizing the CFOP system..
for the CF for me its purely intuitive... but before it gets intuitive you need to practice the cross and get it at a good time.
Memorize the first moves of the F2L and the rest would be intuitive. Put it to heart and start solving using the F2L cases...
for the OP system.. memorize the algorithms based on your finger tricks..
like right-hand-slide-down right-thumb etcetera.. look for repeating patterns on the algorithm like up down up down.. convert the algorithm into your own understanding... execute the algorithm with the cube by solving and returning it.. learn where the figures should face before executing the algorithm by naming them. (ex.. tank with light in front). Turn the cube into a position where you could likely do it faster.. (ex.. for me i hate down turns, thats why i turn the cube on the side or up).. group each OLL cases together... those that look the same..
practice executing the algorithms without looking.. since it is the last layer you need to focus on the positions you need to switch not on the algorithms that you need to do.. by this you will get faster times..
practice your eyes and have a sense of logic, practice cubing in front of people (either you know them or not)...
now share some your routines on practicing and memorizing the CFOP system.. for the benefit of other cubers..
for the CF for me its purely intuitive... but before it gets intuitive you need to practice the cross and get it at a good time.
Memorize the first moves of the F2L and the rest would be intuitive. Put it to heart and start solving using the F2L cases...
for the OP system.. memorize the algorithms based on your finger tricks..
like right-hand-slide-down right-thumb etcetera.. look for repeating patterns on the algorithm like up down up down.. convert the algorithm into your own understanding... execute the algorithm with the cube by solving and returning it.. learn where the figures should face before executing the algorithm by naming them. (ex.. tank with light in front). Turn the cube into a position where you could likely do it faster.. (ex.. for me i hate down turns, thats why i turn the cube on the side or up).. group each OLL cases together... those that look the same..
practice executing the algorithms without looking.. since it is the last layer you need to focus on the positions you need to switch not on the algorithms that you need to do.. by this you will get faster times..
practice your eyes and have a sense of logic, practice cubing in front of people (either you know them or not)...
now share some your routines on practicing and memorizing the CFOP system.. for the benefit of other cubers..
geocine- 2x2x2
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Re: Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
share naman kayo kung paano nyo ginagwa
geocine- 2x2x2
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Re: Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
nung inaral ko yung Fridrich/CFOP, nagsimula ako sa f2l yung pag-insert ng edge-corner at the same time. purely intuition muna ang ginamit ko, tapos yung mahihirap na cases, dun lang ako nagmemorize ng algs. after f2l, nagstart na ako magmemorize ng PLL. mas kaunti kasi ang cases compared sa OLL kaya PLL ang inuna ako. i used jessica fridrich's 13 cases (with reflections and inversions). pero i don't suggest that you use that site kasi pangit yung finger tricks nun. then, after memorizing all PLL, i started studying the OLL using burton and vandenbergh's sites. tapos, last kong inaral yung cross kasi yung yung pinaka nakakalito. mas nadalian akong aralin yung cross nung super familiar na ako sa color scheme ng cube ko.
with regard to the memo technique, i didn't use any particular technique. i just memorized the movements, then, inulit-ulit ko lang gawin ng mga 30-50 times ang isang algo hanggang hindi ko na iniisip yung movements and my fingers can just move on their own.
with regard to the memo technique, i didn't use any particular technique. i just memorized the movements, then, inulit-ulit ko lang gawin ng mga 30-50 times ang isang algo hanggang hindi ko na iniisip yung movements and my fingers can just move on their own.
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pajodaep- 3x3x3
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Re: Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
ako nman ngaun p lng ako nag mememorize ng F2L...magkakasabay pati OLL at PLL...sa cross-making mejo less than 4 senconds na ung cross ko...at down-cross na siya...(unlike dati nsa taas ung white cross ko)...keep practicing lng you'll learn the finger tricks when you keep on repeating the algs...
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greatauror28- 3x3x3
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Re: Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
ang hirap magsaulo.....
jrmh- 2x2x2
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Re: Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
1. F2L
2. PLL
3. OLL
4. finger tricks
ganyan ung steps ng memorization na ginawa ko, kaya ngalang dapat pla sabay kong inaral ung finger tricks, tuloy iniba ko pa ung mga algs nung mga mahihirap sa finger tricks...
2. PLL
3. OLL
4. finger tricks
ganyan ung steps ng memorization na ginawa ko, kaya ngalang dapat pla sabay kong inaral ung finger tricks, tuloy iniba ko pa ung mga algs nung mga mahihirap sa finger tricks...
Re: Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
Cross and F2L ko purely intuitive....
OLL minemorize ko muna yung 7 corner orientations... minememorize ko ngayun yung 21 PLLs... balak ko pagkatapos ng 21 PLLs matagal bago ko imemorize bago yung ibang OLLs para makapraktis ng todo heheheh
OLL minemorize ko muna yung 7 corner orientations... minememorize ko ngayun yung 21 PLLs... balak ko pagkatapos ng 21 PLLs matagal bago ko imemorize bago yung ibang OLLs para makapraktis ng todo heheheh
magicsquares- 2x2x2
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Re: Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
nagprint ako ng mga algos san ba dito yung intuitive f2l? haha churi churi po nagsisimula pa lang ako e hehe salamat!
Re: Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
ang ginagamit ko po na F2L is from cubeloop.com...may mga revisions lng ako na ginawa kc ung iba mali...chka ung iba mas ok kpg sa right or left nakaharap...it all depends kung saan ka mas madaling makakapag finger tricks...
greatauror28- 3x3x3
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Re: Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
it is better to memorize PLL algorithms first then OLL.
cross making is purely intuitive. sanayan lang yun para maging mabilis bumuo ng cross. you should practice finger tricks everyday.
for f2l, it is way better to know and understand the flow than memorizing it.
cross making is purely intuitive. sanayan lang yun para maging mabilis bumuo ng cross. you should practice finger tricks everyday.
for f2l, it is way better to know and understand the flow than memorizing it.
hopelessvain- 2x2x2
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Re: Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
Thanks Hopelessvain, you are right about the F2L...
And finger tricks will come out naturally as you do more cubing..
And finger tricks will come out naturally as you do more cubing..
Brian Nicole Uy- 2x2x2
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Re: Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
ang hirap nung f2l...hindi ko magawa...
advice naman dyan...
advice naman dyan...
jrmh- 2x2x2
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Re: Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
i don't know how i can help you. pero alam ko, problema mo yung paghahanap ng edge and corner pair. try mo mgsearch sa youtube pra nde k gaano mahirapan.
hopelessvain- 2x2x2
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Re: Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
tama ka hirap ako sa edge-corner...
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Re: Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
gusto din sna kita tulungan.. pero mahirap naman sa words.. hehe..
geocine- 2x2x2
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Re: Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
ano website meron nagtuturo edge-corner orientation?
jrmh- 2x2x2
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Re: Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
punta k sa youtube...
khpon my nkita q weh...
kso ndi q p rin ngwa eh...
mejo nhirapan aq xe limited lng oras q...
ngrerent lng xe aq weh...
nauubis n nga budget q weh...
kakaresearch...
pero ok lng...
worthy nmn...
at least after 3 wiks of researching...
nakakabuo n q....
01:42 ung best tym q...
ang bagal p db...
taz ang tigas p ng cube q...
d bale ...
aral lng at praktis...
mggwa rin ntin ung nggwa ng iba.
khpon my nkita q weh...
kso ndi q p rin ngwa eh...
mejo nhirapan aq xe limited lng oras q...
ngrerent lng xe aq weh...
nauubis n nga budget q weh...
kakaresearch...
pero ok lng...
worthy nmn...
at least after 3 wiks of researching...
nakakabuo n q....
01:42 ung best tym q...
ang bagal p db...
taz ang tigas p ng cube q...
d bale ...
aral lng at praktis...
mggwa rin ntin ung nggwa ng iba.
hyfly- 2x2x2
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Re: Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
pareho pla tau, nagrerent lang din ako eh... tapos research ako ng reasearch ng sets of algorithms, sariling sikap kasi ako walang nagturo sakin magcube...
Re: Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
ahaha... pare-parehas pla tau... nalalagas nga pera ko minsan eh.. pero atleast n22nan ko n ung F2L.. ung plng inaaral ko pra tlgang ma-master.. kso pangit cube ko.. d pa ako nkkbli ng orig..
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Re: Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
@pancho
hay.. pero kahit ganun.. bilis mo na. ehehe.. gaano ka na katagal na speedcuber..
@jrmh
search mo tutorial ni bademaphisto
hay.. pero kahit ganun.. bilis mo na. ehehe.. gaano ka na katagal na speedcuber..
@jrmh
search mo tutorial ni bademaphisto
geocine- 2x2x2
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Re: Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
ako i memorized 37 OLLs in 1 month all PLL in 1 week and F2l cases all in 4 days.. just good pratice and dedication makes it more easier..
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Re: Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
grabe ka jerjero.. prng di ka na kumakain nyan ah.... wahaha
geocine- 2x2x2
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Re: Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
jerjero wrote:ako i memorized 37 OLLs in 1 month all PLL in 1 week and F2l cases all in 4 days.. just good pratice and dedication makes it more easier..
waaah hehe. ako nga mga dalawang case lang ng f2l pagaralan ko kelangan ko na mna tumigil dahil makakalimutan ko na yng mga susunod hehe. galing talaga galing!
Re: Memorizing the CFOP (Fridrich Method)...
cmdsaved wrote:jerjero wrote:ako i memorized 37 OLLs in 1 month all PLL in 1 week and F2l cases all in 4 days.. just good pratice and dedication makes it more easier..
waaah hehe. ako nga mga dalawang case lang ng f2l pagaralan ko kelangan ko na mna tumigil dahil makakalimutan ko na yng mga susunod hehe. galing talaga galing!
ako nga intuitive lang ang f2l (yes, i really devised algorithms on my own and nakakagulat yung iba kong nagawa, yun na pala ung optimal solution... i am also currently inventing new algos for corners/pairs in the wrong slots) ko although hindi ko pa nakakbisa lahat ng OLL... currently mastering pll coz it's more important than OLL.. pero ngayong pasukan na..1-3 algos nalang muna kakabisaduhin ko kada linggo kasi mahirap subjects...
...[Nat Sci 1 (Physics/Chem yun), Physics 72(2nd part physics), Math 64(Calculus part 2 for Math Majors), at Math 109(How to write valid Mathematical Proofs)]...
...ko ngayong sem taz may bagsak pa ako last sem.. ayun... acads mode muna
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