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Post by bucephy Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:53 am

how to blindsolve 2x2.......cnu may alam ng site n nagtuturo kung panu magblindsolve ng 2x2......
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Post by magicsquares Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:07 pm

Turuan nalang kita dito hahaha pero kung gusto mo eto o:
http://www.ws.binghamton.edu/fridrich/Richard/BlindfoldRevenge.pdf

Kailangan mo nga lang ng adobe reader thing...

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Post by van21691 Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:10 pm

hirap nga eh
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Post by hyfly Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:53 pm

sobrang hirap tlga....



nkdilat p nga lng aq...



hirap n eh...



blindfold p kya...
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Post by krisakiko Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:56 am

hahah...try k nga muna 2x2x2....parang maas mdali ata
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Post by openbox Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:07 am

parang ganun din yun eh... hehe Smile
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Post by bucephy Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:55 am

magicsquares nkita ko n ung file,sana makatulong to....sigeh
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Post by zhious Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:56 pm

any other tutorial for blindsolving 2x2x2?
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Post by pajodaep Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:04 am

ako, i solve the 2x2 blindfolded using the method in solving the corners of the 3x3 blindfolded.
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Post by magicsquares Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:15 pm

Ok eto.. Medyo mabagal lang nga tong method na to...

Ang kailangan niyo lang imemorize para sa method na idedescribe ko ay ang T-Perm at ang "commutator" na pang orient.

How to start:
Mamili kayo ng corner na gusto niyo ay nasa DBL position. Kailangan ito kasi walang centers ang 2x2x2 so wala tayong reference. Halimawa ako white-blue-violet ang nasa BLD ko kasi yellow on top tapos red in front ang gusto ko.

Orientation:
Ang gusto mong mangyari... Nasa UBR yung ioorient mo.. Orientation is always in pairs or by threes.

Just for the sake of explanation I will use these:
1 = Corner needs to be flipped clockwise
2 = Corner needs to be flipped counter-clockwise

Para malaman niyo kung ano yung "1" check niyo dito: http://cubefreak.net/blindfoldcubing_guide.html#CO yun yung clockwise orientation tapos yung counter clockwise orientation yung 2.

Yung mga dark colors dyan sa examples from cubefreak either U or D face colors yan... It doesn't matter kung ang corner na dapat sa U layer ay nasa D layer ok lang yan... Kasi ipepermute pa naman eh...

To orient a corner with the orientation "1"(needs to be flipped clockwise) we will use

Code:
R D R' D' R D R' D'

Para sa orientation 2 naman

Code:
D R D' R' D R D' R'

Try niyo gawin sa cube niyo yung isa lang sa mga yan kahit ano... Diba UBR lang ang magagalaw sa U layer? Tapos para maayos yung ibang layers or pieces syempre gagawin mo yung reverse nun... Which means doing D R D' R' pero bago mo gawin yun imove mo muna yung U face para ang nasa UBR naman ay yung may orientation "2". So laging ilalagay mo muna yung 2 corners or 3 corners na ioorient mo sa U layer using set-up moves syempre wag niyo kalilimutan yung setup moves niyo...

Example naman ng 3 corners na ioorient ay kung pare-pareho halimbawa tatlong 1.

Note: You can use cube rotations as set-up moves.


Permutation:

Ok sa labels muna tayo...
1 = UFL
2 = UFR
3 = UBR
4 = UBL
5 = DFL
6 = DFR
7 = DBR
8 = DBL -> remember ito yung reference point tama na position niyan at orientation...


So pacounter clockwise siya starting from the front left..


T-Perm:
Code:
R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F'

Ok... Ang T-perm ay pinagpapalit ang corners number 2 at 3... Ang gagawin natin ay ganito... Corner # 3 ang special corner natin..

In solving, ang gagawin ay magsisimula tayo sa corner # 3. So "cycle" ang tawag dito.. Halimbawa (1 7 6 4). Nagsimula sa 1 kasi kunwari sa cycle na yan ang nasa corner #3 ay dapat mapunta sa pwesto ng corner#1 Ang gagawin dyan lalagay mo yung corner 1 sa corner 2 tapos T-perm undo set-up moves tapos dadalhin corner 7 sa corner 2 tapos T-perm undo set-up moves tapos... you get the point...

Ok... Starting a new cycle.. Kunwari nasa corner 4 yung dapat mapunta sa corner 3 so after the cycle (1 7 6 4) kunwari meron pa yan kasunod na (5 2 5) ang gagawin mo ilalagay mo yung 5 sa position 2 tapos t perm tapos balik tapos t-perm tapos lalagay uli number 5 sa position 2 tapos t-perm...

Sana naintindihan niyo hahaha

Lagyan ko ng example solve if needed.


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Post by bucephy Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:50 am

yon!!!!!pag aaralan ko na ito
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Post by magicsquares Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:45 pm

I'll add an example solve...

EDIT:

Here it is.

Scramble: R' B2 R2 B L' U L' F2 U B' L2 F' R B2 D B D2 R F2 U L U2 B2 U' F'

I usually scramble with White on top and green in front. If you scrambled correctly with my orientation (white on top and green in front) your U face should have the following colors from upper left-upper right-lower left-lower right: Yellow - Blue - Red - Green.

So I look for my DBL corner which is white blue violet (white orange blue for rubik's brand 2x2x2's). I see that it right in front of me so I need to put it in DBL. I rotate the cube using y so that it is in the DBL position.

Memorization:
Let's look at the top layer first starting from position 1(UFL) and going to position 4(UBL) which means I go in a counter-clockwise direction. This is how we do memorize orientation for beginner's. We assign the number of the orientation to the piece so in our case it will be 1201 for the top layer.

0 means that the piece is correctly oriented. Let's turn the cube with z2. And starting from the corner in UFR (which was corner DFL before we did z2) we go to the current UFL then UBL then UBR (this is always correctly oriented!!). In our case the orientation is 0110.

So our orientation is 1201 0110. You can undo the z2 now.

Now for permutation.

We look at corner 3 and look where it belongs. The one in 4 belongs in 6 and the one in 6 belongs to 3. So our current cycle is finished and it is (4 6). We do not remember 3!! So let's look at a position which doesn't have it's correct corner. I usually look for the lowest numbered position like position 1. Ok so 1 belongs in 7 then 7 belongs in 2 and 2 in 1. So our 2nd cycle is (1 7 2 1). Note: You have to remember other corners which you started the cycle with and you should end with it too, unlike 3 which you don't memorize because it will automatically be solved after the cycle that solves it.

Execution:
Since it's quite hard to remember cube rotations, let's just bring the corners we need to orient to the U layer. Now, our orientation is 1201 0110.

First we do U', then do (D R D' R') twice then do U' again then do (R D R' D') twice. Then we do U2 to bring back the corners. Then we do R2 to bring the 2 corners from the D layer. Then do (R D R' D') twice then do U' then (R D R' D') twice then U2 then (R D R' D') twice again. Then U' then R2 to bring the corners back to the D layer.

Orientation is finished.

For permutation our cycle is (4 6) (1 7 2 1)

Set-up Moves:
1 F2 D' F2 inverse: F2 D F2
2 NONE!!
3 NONE!!
4 L2 F2 L2 inverse: L2 F2 L2
5 F2 inverse: F2
6 D F2 inverse: F2 D'
7 D2 F2 inverse: F2 D2

Do number 4's set-up moves, T-perm, undo set-up moves.
Do number 6's set-up moves, T-perm, undo set-up moves.
Do number 1's set-up moves, T-perm, undo set-up moves.
Do number 7's set-up moves, T-perm, undo set-up moves.
Do number 2's set-up moves, T-perm, undo set-up moves.
Do number 1's set-up moves, T-perm, undo set-up moves.

That's all!

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Post by n6i1c9o Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:23 pm



share ko lang...
2x2 BLD..memo time ko cguro 1min.. haha bagal ko pero asteg 1st try ko yan.. gamit gamit ang corner orientation ng 3x3 kanina lang umaga toh sa school namin... ang kulit ng kaklase ko eh.. ginugulo ako.. pakinggan niyo mga pinagsasabi niya... hahahaha
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Post by haZZknightZ Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:15 pm

Waaaa kuya Nico parang alam ko yung shirt na suot mo ah yan ba yung sa harap "Eh ano naman ngayon kung Engineering ka?" then sa likod "Mapua ka ba?" yun nga ba yun? ... astig naman. Idol na rin kita. hehe, Paturo po ah.
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Post by zhious Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:30 am

thanks for the tip.. subukan ko intindihin..

bro Nico, mapuan din ako.. meron din ako ganyang tshirt.. hehe.. idol..
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Post by isaganiesteron Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:48 pm

"puta!" at the end !hahaha! i really want to try 2x2 blindfold since before pa, i just dont have one..
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Post by pajodaep Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:45 pm

haZZknightZ wrote:Waaaa kuya Nico parang alam ko yung shirt na suot mo ah yan ba yung sa harap "Eh ano naman ngayon kung Engineering ka?" then sa likod "Mapua ka ba?" yun nga ba yun? ... astig naman. Idol na rin kita. hehe, Paturo po ah.

hahaha. meron ding angas shirt ang college of engineering ng UP Eng'g. Ganito: "So what kung uno* ka, Eng'g ka ba?"

*uno - flat 1.0 grade in UP.
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Post by n6i1c9o Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:58 pm

zhious wrote:thanks for the tip.. subukan ko intindihin..

bro Nico, mapuan din ako.. meron din ako ganyang tshirt.. hehe.. idol..

susuot ko toh sa UP DILIMAN OPEN!
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Post by n6i1c9o Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:58 pm

pajodaep wrote:
haZZknightZ wrote:Waaaa kuya Nico parang alam ko yung shirt na suot mo ah yan ba yung sa harap "Eh ano naman ngayon kung Engineering ka?" then sa likod "Mapua ka ba?" yun nga ba yun? ... astig naman. Idol na rin kita. hehe, Paturo po ah.

hahaha. meron ding angas shirt ang college of engineering ng UP Eng'g. Ganito: "So what kung uno* ka, Eng'g ka ba?"

*uno - flat 1.0 grade in UP.

angas tlaga na mga taga PEYUPS!
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Post by zhious Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:20 am

@magicsquares,

thanks sa sample mo.. nakukuha ko na siya..
question lang about sa set-up moves ng corner #6, tama ba ung nsa sample?

i guess it should be D' F2.. then F2 D when bringing it back.. correct me if im wrong..

isa pa,

can you give me a technique when orienting corners.. which one should be oriented first..

@nico,
idol, eto rin ba ang gamit mong steps like sa sample ni magicsquares?


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Post by jettyboy1 Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:00 am

isaganiesteron wrote:"puta!" at the end !hahaha! i really want to try 2x2 blindfold since before pa, i just dont have one..

dude, use your 4x4 and solve it as if it's a 2x2
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Post by zhious Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:29 am

yipee.. nakakasolve nako ng 2x2x2 BLD.. pagkatapos ng masusing pagintindi sa sample ni magicsquares.. hehe.. pero super tagal q mag memo..

thanks ulet..


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Post by van21691 Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:02 am

make a video Smile
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Post by rico Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:50 am

gusto ko din itry ung BLD 2x2, kaso hinde ko pa magawa.. nalilimutan ko kasi ung kulay.. hehe..

pano po ba makabisa un? kasi alam ko ung position, kaso hinde ko maitama ung kulay.. salamat..^^

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Post by MaZtR HaXoR Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:42 pm

ako i just started one hand by 2x2x2 nung isang araw lang. saya nga e... natuto lang ako ng one hand sa sarili ko:D:D:D
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