longer or shorter algorithms?

what do you prefer longer but easier to execute alg or shorter but kinda hard to execute? during my memorization days of oll, i found out two oll algs from noort's page which has more or less 13 moves which is exactly two olls: sune + FRUR'U'F' and antisune + FRUR'U'F'

master ken told me this: longer + finger tricks = faster(lol)

wana know other cuber's opinion too. . ! !

hmm.. its good to have longer but easier fingerstricks...

for me..

marami nagsabi... it doesn't matter how hard the ALGS is... or how long it is...

it is your finger tricks... just like this...

Z Perm... * (x') R U' R' U D R' D U' R' U R D2' F (x)

he does it like just 1 seconds...

nalimutan ko yun sites... puro finger tricks yun... from R U to R U R' U' etc...

and i saw also in a video... he's still using the original FRIDRICH... hindi optimized or enhanced or alternatives... pero sub18...

pero siyempre... bibilis ka lalo kung optimized... easy kahit long algs... shorter the better... and FAST FINGER TRICKS...

well yun ang hinuha ko... kaya sub35 pa rin me for 3 weeks...

heheheheheheh... :D:D:D:D

after memorizing my OLLs nbreak ko n ung stable sub35 ko into unstable sub30s... meju ntuwa ako pewu marame p dn akong ka2ining NFA rice pra mging sub20..!

for me, use the shorther one, kasi po, medyo mabagal nga kaysa sa long but with nice fingertricks. PERO, pag namaster mo na, mas mabilis un kaysa sa longer lalo na pag namaster mo na ung fingertricks

shorter, kasi mas malupet pag katapos mo eh

longer but faster sa akin... try to break ur dexterity barriers LOL hehehe pramis ung 2-gen zperm ko dati 4.xx ngaun 2.1 nlng kaso ayaw prin mag sub2 heheh kea yan hehhee

Yeah. I have to agree with Jemay. Longer but easier to execute. Optimized algorithms tend to have awkward re-grips and move sequences. Such as sudden B's or D' that come out of nowhere. Very time consuming in my opinion. Comfort and convenience over number of moves. That's how I look at it. Yeah...

LoNgEr.. Un Lng...

longer ako pero mas gus2 ko short sa mga mahirap na cases like f-perm or e-perm isama ko na ang v-perm

Shorter. Pero kung R-hand dominant 2-gen (Nakaji Z-perm, for one), I'll go for that.

Pero to put it in a better comparison, I must say that most shorter algs, though having weird moves out of nowhere, are usually faster than other "easier" agorithms.

Example: Yung mirror OLL ng FURU'R'F, it's usually done F'L'U'LUF, but I do it, (y' R'U' y') (R'URU') B. Mukhang weird, pero sa unang OLL, since left hand, umaabot ako ng 2s. Sa second one, sub-1.5.

Second case, yung mismong FURU'R'F' na algo, I do it sometimes as y2 f(RUR'U')f' if it ends up in the opposite angle. It seems weird, but it eliminates that awkward delay between the first F and U move.

Maraming scenarios, and it always depends on the case. Well, at least for me.

i think depende din sa cuber yan. either way, may advantage at disadvantage.

It depends on your fingertricks which you are comfortable of.

tulad ng sabi ni kuya pajo, may advantages and disadvantages ang both. i would go for shorter algs for OH. longer but easier executing algs for the normal solve

What if a shorter algorithm will be invented and it can be executed much faster than the longer ones, who wouldn't prefer it diba? haha...

'Much faster' is relative. What if it involved B and D moves in abundance? That would suck, too. Pwedeng masmabilis at masmaikli, but what matters is how possible is it for a cuber to execute an algorithm, not however shorter or longer the algorithm is.

i prefer shorter algs too lessen the moves and to reduce its solving time so just memorize all the notations inorder to execute the algs correctly pero hindi mo tlgang masasabi na sa algs yan nasa bilis yan ng fingertricks ng isang cuber

longer at easier...kasi mapapadali mo gamit finger trikz...^^...
[sa nakikita lng..^^...]...