AFTER FULL FRID. WHAT NEXT?

start playing rubiks cube feb 1. 1:03.pm(1month lbl 3 months f2l from now)(3X3X3)hmm... ask ko lng no.. kasi i think 2 or 3 days full frid. na ako.. and la na akong idea kung ano gagawin kong next step after this...
what gagawin ko?
1. practice para ma improve ung mga kinabisadong algs?
2. fractice finger tricks?
3.DI PA KUMOT FULL FRID NA UN NA KATAPUSAN? KASI MAY MGA ALGS PANG DAPAT I MEMORIZED.
4.MEMO NAMAN NG IBANG METHOD LIKE ROUX?PETRUS?
5.MAG PAPA CHEEZ BURGER NLNG? JOKE..


HELP... SANA MAG BIGAY TIPS SI JOME ^_^,) THNX FOR SOME PLL'S JOME HEHEH :p
edit : SUB 30 plng me.. all 21 pll na ako and 40+ oll.. hay.. kinakabahan ako baka isang araw stuck ako sa sub 25 pag naging...

full fridrich ka na? as in all OLL's and PLL's? cool. ano na average mo? post it here para makita ng mga mega cuber tulad nina ken at kuya jb, at baka makapagbigay ng tips. for now, i choose briefcase # 1. haha. yep, kahit sub 15 ka na, keep on practicing, para malaman mo kung hanggang saanang limits mo. ^^

kung full ka na ganto nlng gawin mo practice lng ng practice tpos

optimized mo ung iba algo kung ano ung masmbilis execute with your fingertricks kaw bahala kung pano mo optimize bsta hanap lng ng masmganda pang algo hehehee

40+ oll sabi mo.. bali po sir 57 po lht ang OLL.. so hindi mo pa po kumpleto lahat un.. a bale un nalang gawin mo kumpletuhin mo ung OLL's at mag praktis ng fast execution at fingertricks..

kelan ko kya matutunan yng 40+ oll sa ngaun kc 10 lang akin.. pero pb ko 32sec..

Ayusin mo algos mo. Tama si chaos. Optimize. 2 buwan lang ako nag-memo, pero hanggang ngayon di pa ako tapos mag-optimize.

For starters/incomplete memo cubers, one clarification:
Memorizing the system means na alam mo ang algos, plus their inverses and mirrors if there are any. Kung ganito ang ginawa niyo, congrats, tapos na ang memorization. HOWEVER, iba pa ang optimization dun. Optimization is the adjustment of every algorithm to fit your cubing style/approach. Hindi ito basta basta lang.

Kailangan mo pang ayusin ang PLLs mo, looking for tricks involving certain PLLs, moves with minimal rotations, finding good moves that will make transitions between moves faster, etc. You also need to determine if you want algos to be R-hand dominant as much as possible, or you'll take your chances with ambidextrous moves. Madami pa.

The term "full Fridrich" doesn't actually make sense, because Fridrich basically is limitless. For as long as there is that F2L move that you need to discover, or that cross approach you need to see, the system itself will not be fully learned.

So, ayun, optimization lang talaga. If ever marating mo na talaga yung tingin mo limit mo sa Fridrich (which is theoretically sub-13 or so), then that's the time to try new things (xcross, block, COLL, ZB, VH, MGLS, etc.). For now, just make sure that your Fridrich isn't only FULLY MEMORIZED but FULLY MASTERED as well. Malaki ang pinagkaiba nun.

Congratulations sa memo success. Good luck.

RanieLCuber wrote:40+ oll sabi mo.. bali po sir 57 po lht ang OLL.. so hindi mo pa po kumpleto lahat un.. a bale un nalang gawin mo kumpletuhin mo ung OLL's at mag praktis ng fast execution at fingertricks..

kelan ko kya matutunan yng 40+ oll sa ngaun kc 10 lang akin.. pero pb ko 32sec..

ung iba kasi mirror lang?

RanieLCuber wrote:40+ oll sabi mo.. bali po sir 57 po lht ang OLL.. so hindi mo pa po kumpleto lahat un.. a bale un nalang gawin mo kumpletuhin mo ung OLL's at mag praktis ng fast execution at fingertricks..

kelan ko kya matutunan yng 40+ oll sa ngaun kc 10 lang akin.. pero pb ko 32sec..

kuya ang sabi po ni Mr.shiva 2-3 days complete na Frid nea. PEACE!!!


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hmm i choose no.1 also kasi ung tlga mahirap ang mag optimize ng mga algo kong saan ka pinka comfortable sa lhat... at kpag nka kuha mona algo ng cube mo kung saan ka pinka "OK" dun na sasabay ang finger tricks mo kasabay ng pag familiar s amga new cases ng algo mo
teka teka kuya pano ung F2L mo??? intuitive???

buti kpa mtatapos na OLL mo.... ako 13 plng alam ko sa OLL cross cases lng halos... minsan 3look pa kpag may dot sa mid ...

goodluck po kuya

learn fingertricks, practice, practice, and practice.

If you can solve your cube without stopping or perfect exectution. You practice too much

1. 2. 4.

yun pipiliin koh.

ng study koh naun nung ibang methods kahit di p koh full fridrich.

hybrid aq nung 3 methods n nabanggit mo

tpos practice aq ng finger tricks

Do a lot of reconfiguring if you think you're not getting any better. Especially F2L and fingertricks.

Practice fingertricks and optimize your algs. Smooth execution especially in F2L. Ganun din ako, 57++ OLLs and 21++ PLLs na pero sub 25 pa rin. Medjo matagal parin ako sa Cross + F2L. Madalas sub 20 dun. Hirap parin sa cross-building.
Basta, try mo mag xcross. Yun din pinagaaralan ko ngayon eh. ^^ Good luck nalang saten. ^_^

optimize pre... sub2 s OLL tapos sub2.5-sub3 PLL pero kung gus2 mo mamaw sub1.5 s OLL tapos sub2-2.5 s pll hehehe gudlak

ako nga indi pa memo lahat.... natatamad ako heheh

sub 10 syem pre hahahaha... BLD at Speed OH wakokokokok

tama lahat cnabi nla!



wat can i say pa?

first of all, i don't think you've fully memorized fridrich. i haven't either. i only have like, i dunno, 10-12 more algs too. And as Jome said, fully memorized fridrich is different from fully mastered fridrich.

i think memorizing tons of algs in 3-4 days would be a headache. i haven't memorized all my algos yet but i have optimized every single one of them. so i learn 1 or 2 (usually mirrors) then try to use them in my solves, or just repeating the alg over again. I also find new ways to execute them.

but to get your times down, you need 1) practice 2) finger tricks 3)optimization of your algs 4) and most of all recognition.

and when you practice, try slow solving/turning. it helps you in your recognition. you can check out my slow turning vid in Cubing Videos.

yah... you should master Fridrich then race kau ni Nakajima

hmm.. cheeseburger meal na lang muna samin.. hahaha..

woah..all algs memorized in 3 days? that's amazing..hirap nga ako magmemo ng 2 algs per day at sobrang tamad ko magmemo..hahaha..

Jome wrote:Ayusin mo algos mo. Tama si chaos. Optimize. 2 buwan lang ako nag-memo, pero hanggang ngayon di pa ako tapos mag-optimize.

For starters/incomplete memo cubers, one clarification:
Memorizing the system means na alam mo ang algos, plus their inverses and mirrors if there are any. Kung ganito ang ginawa niyo, congrats, tapos na ang memorization. HOWEVER, iba pa ang optimization dun. Optimization is the adjustment of every algorithm to fit your cubing style/approach. Hindi ito basta basta lang.

Kailangan mo pang ayusin ang PLLs mo, looking for tricks involving certain PLLs, moves with minimal rotations, finding good moves that will make transitions between moves faster, etc. You also need to determine if you want algos to be R-hand dominant as much as possible, or you'll take your chances with ambidextrous moves. Madami pa.

The term "full Fridrich" doesn't actually make sense, because Fridrich basically is limitless. For as long as there is that F2L move that you need to discover, or that cross approach you need to see, the system itself will not be fully learned.

So, ayun, optimization lang talaga. If ever marating mo na talaga yung tingin mo limit mo sa Fridrich (which is theoretically sub-13 or so), then that's the time to try new things (xcross, block, COLL, ZB, VH, MGLS, etc.). For now, just make sure that your Fridrich isn't only FULLY MEMORIZED but FULLY MASTERED as well. Malaki ang pinagkaiba nun.

Congratulations sa memo success. Good luck.

very well said. this is exactly what i want cubers to understand.

try ZBF2L and COLL next

^_^