Training tips for cubers with stuck averages (credit: pjk)

Guys ask ko lang kung ok itong mga f2l na to http://learn2cube.com/cfop/f2l/index.php..

yan po kasi ang gamit ko....

supercuber wrote:Guys ask ko lang kung ok itong mga f2l na to http://learn2cube.com/cfop/f2l/index.php..

yan po kasi ang gamit ko....

hmm... nakita ko na din yan. okay din magsimula jan. pero, sobrang kulang talaga pa din yan eh. ang complete list talaga ay cubeloop. pero, may mga di kasi nagagamit sa cubeloop. yung kay nakajima, halos lahat efficient gamitin. nga pala, meron yatang more or less 5 algs dun sa algorithm bank niya na may error (baka typo), di ko maexecute eh. hanapin nyo na lang.

edit: ignore my previous comment. since di ka pa pala sub-30, you can start with that website. okay na okay din yan especially the f2l. pero i suggest kunin mo ang OLL and PLL from jason baum's website:
http://jmbaum.110mb.com/f2l.htm

you can start learning nakaji's advanced f2l pag sub-20 ka na. di pa advisable yun eh. ;=)

supercuber wrote:sir .. i have 21pll and 8oll... 70% memorized algos of f2l... can i make it to sub 30? ahmmm... should i use the 2x2x3 block of petrus(para skip na ung 2 f2l).. or should i use the cross.... im still practicing.... my current average is 34.xx sec.... may fastest is 23.xx....

definitely. i memoed 7 olls and 17 plls..my f2l is intuitive with a few algs and few intuitive empty slot shortcuts (i think)..i'm sub25.. kayang kaya mo yan..improve lang ng f2l. xcross? nd muna cguro..like kuya jome said..stick to basics lang muna tayong noobs..

nice!!
ok na ok to!!
panget naman tips sa 30-40sec...
mgsaulo ng algo?
haha...
yoko nun!

pero no choice..
i guess kelangan ko na talagang magsaulo...

thanks ng madami!

Hwoarang wrote:nice!!
ok na ok to!!
panget naman tips sa 30-40sec...
mgsaulo ng algo?
haha...
yoko nun!

pero no choice..
i guess kelangan ko na talagang magsaulo...

thanks ng madami!

hay... wala pong shortcut. kailangan talaga magmemo ng alg. actually, pag namemo mo na yung buong fridrich (41 f2l, 57 OLl, 21PLL), di ka pa tapos. kung gusto mo bumilis, kailangan mo pa magmemo ng advanced f2l (100+), OLL from at least 2 angles (57x2), at PLL recognition by block. tapos, kailangan mong matuto pumili ng algs on case to case basis.

pajodaep wrote:

Hwoarang wrote:nice!!
ok na ok to!!
panget naman tips sa 30-40sec...
mgsaulo ng algo?
haha...
yoko nun!

pero no choice..
i guess kelangan ko na talagang magsaulo...

thanks ng madami!

hay... wala pong shortcut. kailangan talaga magmemo ng alg. actually, pag namemo mo na yung buong fridrich (41 f2l, 57 OLl, 21PLL), di ka pa tapos. kung gusto mo bumilis, kailangan mo pa magmemo ng advanced f2l (100+), OLL from at least 2 angles (57x2), at PLL recognition by block. tapos, kailangan mong matuto pumili ng algs on case to case basis.

woah!!
ganun kadaming algo ba ang f2l?!
parang yoko na.. haha.. LOL
joke lang..

sabi nga ng tagalized na naruto, walang madaling paraan.. nyahahaha...

pero, makakasub-20 ka na with full fridrich alone, kailangan mo lang aralin yung pag-execute from all angles ng f2l, at mabilis na cross. yung mga nireply ko sa taas, pangsub-13 na yun eh gaya nina stefan huber. di ko pa din alam gawin yun.

uhhm..can anybody make something like this for OH and BLD? i really need the tips..and i'm sure madami ring makikinabang..

daming tips ah..

ms mbilis b ang algo f2l s intuitive?
prang ms mraming move ung ibang f2l algo e
intuitive kc f2l ko e.

@fukuro..ung ibang algo n f2l eh nagagawa mo n din in intuitive..pero my mga algo n sobrang ikli lang..lalo n ung advanz..karamihan sa advanz f2l eh 5-8 algo lang..

yung f2l algs naman ay di "minememorize" its more like understanding then application. f2l uses very little intuition unlike block methods. when you say "intuitive f2l" its more like applying your own alg to a specific corner-edge pair situation whenever you see it. theres nothing intuitive with that

Sir pajodaep

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
Sorry for the caps...just want to emphasize my gratitude to your topic.

I would say this is the Ultimate Guide.

When I read this a few weeks ago, I followed the suggestions/tips base on my average and I was amazed at the results, from my sub60 it drop into sub45 (fastest ave)!!!Well fluctuating pa sya into sub55 but I seldom reaches 60sec...gosh!And also from my prev PB of 42.xxsec into 39.xx!

Thank you very much again sir.
GOD BLESS.



(I will not be surprised bka next competition, halos lahat puro sub10 na average. he he he)

thanks once again..nag refer nanaman ako dito..nd ko na kasi alam gagawin ko..haha.. eniwey..i had such a hard time finding this thread..nagtanong tanong pa ko (special thanks to oretniprac for giving me a link)..could this be stickied?