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Post by cubecubecube Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:38 pm

hanap ka ng robinsons dept. store sa loob may toys r us toybox. may cube dun. o kaya sa mismong toys r us sa rob galle/metroeast/pioneer, etc. yung white naman ng cube, diy yun. nabibili yun online sa rubiks.com/cube4you.com.

gaano ka na katagal nagbblindfold? pang NR na yang times mo eh. enge tips! fastest ko 2 mins. pano mo prinaktis yung memo mo? natry mo na ba M2/R2 method?

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Post by isaganiesteron Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:19 am

im making a BLD 2-cycle tutorial soon.. watch out for that
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Post by Brian Nicole Uy Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:59 am

I'm also making a 2cycle method tutorial, but it is in text. I will email it to Lester and he will post it in the "Speedcubing Solutions". It is 3/4 finish. So please wait, I'm just kind of busy.Smile

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Post by SlowestCuber Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:20 am

mape 3 cycle gmit mu? d ko pa kasi tinatry mag bld eh

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Post by Jricle Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:06 am

how can i start? it's hard to analyze!
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Post by pancho86 Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:12 pm

mape wrote:memorization techiques ko iba! abakada imbes na numbers.

A - 1
Ba - 2
Ka - 3
Da - 4
Ga - 5
La - 6
Ma - 7
Na - 8
Pa - 9
Ra - 10
Sa - 11
Ta - 12

Sa edges permutation ko ito ginagamit.kaya nakakabuo ako ng words or sentences among this. di ko sinama ang e i o u dahil tayong mga pilipino karamihan sa salita natin ay may "A".

For example: 1, 11, 3, 2, 6 (ASa) (Ka) (bala)

Bahala na kayo kung paano ito gawing words or Sentence

Sa EO, CO, CP mga lines ang gamit ko to memorize it.dapat memorize mo na ang cube in 30 to 40 seconds.dapat kabisado mo na ang mga centers of your cube para unang tingin palang alam mo kung ano ang i-memorize mo.Sa akin blue (front) and white (top)
practice and more practice.Kumain ng gulay para lumakas ang memory or take a Memory Plus.And don't forget smile.
And Always Pray to God.


average blindfold: 1:30:57 (sa bahay lang)
sayang at di ako nakasali noon lalo na sa diliman I have no contact or information na meron na palang competition sa rubik.at kung meron man, di rin ako nakakapunta.Marami akong Schedules.
Ngayon ko lang natagpuan ang inyong website.Thanks!
Please suggests or comments Very Happy

nice memo technique... effective nga e2... kung magaling u magsaulo ng words, prang story method..
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Post by mape Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:10 pm

3 cycle gamit ko o kaya 5 cycle depende sa situation
nababanas ako sa 2 cycle

ang bagal kasi

kay makisumi yung algo ko
o kaya sa naimbento kong mga algos, meron yung sabay na ang EO at EP

Please suggests or comments:
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Post by omar Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:18 am

Pede po mag tanong kung advisable pa i-continue ung memo method ko, gamit ko kasi stickers ung memo. (edges palang kaya ko i solve). Kinuha dun sa isang 2cycle guide.
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Post by pajodaep Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:23 pm

share ko lang din memo technique ko for the edges (by the way, i use simultaneous edge orientation and permutation by pochmann). i'm using an extended PAO (person, action, object) system. dinagdagan ko ng PLACE as another dimension. so PPAO na - place, person, action, object. sub-2 pa rin ako sa memorization. anyways, i just got another sub-4min solve yesterday while practicing...

A Attic Angel Acting Axe
B Beach Bull Boxing Bicycle
C Church Clown Crying Camera
D Dessert Dog Dancing Doll
E ER (hospital) Elephant Eating Egg
F Ferris Wheel Fireman Flying Flute
G Green house Gloria arroyo Gymnastic Gun
H Helicopter Harry potter Hopping Hoola hoop
I Ice skating rink Iceman Imprisoned Ipod
J jungle Jesus Christ Jogging Jar
K Kitchen Kangaroo Karate Knife
L Light house Lizard Laughing Lamp
M Museum Monkey Mountain climbing Medal
N North pole Nurse Napping Net
O Oval (track oval) Octopus Orgy Oven
P Park Peterpan Push/pulling Pencil
Q Quidditch stadium Queen Quivering Quicksand
R Restaurant Robocop Raining Rubik’s cube
S Ship (ferry ship) Superman Singing Sunglasses
T Toilet Tiger Tumbling Telephone
U Underwater Unicorn Urinating Umbrella
V Volcano Vampire Vomiting Violin
W Wallmart (mall) Wolverine (xmen) Walking Whip

some of the words were off kasi personalized toh. to anyone who will be using the PAO system, try to come up with your own words para personalized at madaling matandaan.

as with the corner orientation, and corner permutation, purely visual ako for single BLD. pero, for multi-BLD, i use the Roman Room na.

for the Roman Room, i incorporate the PAO for the edges, while i use the mnemonics below for the corners. kung baga, for every item in the room, i store a PPAO and a set of the mnemonics below:

1-pencil
2-chopsticks
3-clover leaf
4-table
5-star
6-yoyo
7-axe
8-hour glass

(i just memorize the positions of the items relative to each other.)
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Post by Zeinest815 Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:19 pm

why not have a scramble and sample memo run-thru? hehe. ganito kasi ginagawa ng mga tao sa speedsolving.com. Very Happy
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Post by pajodaep Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:56 am

oh wow, i tried visual memorization for the first time today. i got it successfully on my third attempt: 4:13.02 on my first successful solve!

totally no mnemonics involved. purely visual. i just tapped my fingers on the pieces. i tapped the corners and edges, and memorized the sequence of my finger movements. I think it worked well for me coz my brain's used to this kind of memo since it's also the same memo i use when i memorize the fingering of my piano pieces and i've been using this memo for for the piano for years now. i think i'm going to switch from PAO to visual (except for the multiBLD). still using the piece by piece though so i'm still slow during execution.

i just realized that the visual memo is not at all that difficult. At first i was afraid to try it because i know i don't have the special memo skill so i went by the PAO system. But it actually works, although it takes time getting used to. And, i think the visual memo (if mastered) is the fastest memo technique. Some visual memo'ers I know (for single BLD) are Jonathan Papa, Erik Akkersdijk, Pedro Santos, Leyan Lo, tim habermaas, Mike Hughey. Of course for multi-BLD, the visual memo won't work especially for more than 3 cubes...


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Post by Brian Nicole Uy Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:58 pm

@Pajodeap

Haha, I also play piano and I like visual memorization more than any other memorization. I also do what you do, the tapping of fingers, positions, finger movements and et cetera.

Anyway, I have finished my blindfold tutorial already. Anyone who wants it, can Instant Message me anytime through Yahoo! Messenger or Microsoft Network Messenger. I am happy to offer you the tutorial.

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Post by sirian23 Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:02 pm

waahhh!! anu ba ung 2, 3, 4 5, 6... blahvlahblah cycle???
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Post by marc_rendl Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:47 am

guys, im currently studying M2/R2.. but before that i studied pochmann's 1st method as Joel explained it very clearly. im having a hard time when it comes to the UB, UF, DB, and DF egdes (the edges that rotate along with the m2 move), im confused with the rotating center piece, can someone post how is this done? i don't understand pochmann's explanation (or im just too lazy to percieve them clearly)
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Post by Jome Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:44 pm

Haha. You're just too lazy to percieve them, pare, pero alam ko naisip mo na... Bale, para bang imbes na i-shoot mo dun sa dating buffer zone, isho-shoot mo na dun sa UB. Diba sa simula sa DF? Ayun, relative change ng buffers depende kung nasaan na yung isho-shoot mo next.

Basta, nakakabaliw explain sa words. Pero papalit-palit lang siya. Yung sample solves di rin nakakatulong, pero yun yung napansin ko dun sa video niya eh.
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Post by pepesmith Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:51 pm

nakakalito tlga ung M2 method n un para s akin. nakakalito kasi kapag nagprapraktis k w/ ur eyes open kc ako nadidistrurb ako dun s misplaced center pieces parang roux method ang influence ne2ng M2 pero im trying to study it! mabilis daw kasi execution eh
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Post by cubecubecube Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:01 pm

diba ganito,
UF: U2 M' U2 M'
DB: M U2 M U2
kapag yung centers e switched, yung algo na gagamitin mo para sa mga edges sa M2 e yung opposite niya. ex. pag ung target mo UF tapos switched yung centers, yung algo para sa DB gagamitin mo. walang problema pag UB target mo, M2 pa rin yung algo. hehe


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Post by Zeinest815 Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:57 pm

tama si cubecubecube. diba bumabalik ung centers every 2 M2? kunwari ung una mong M2, non-M slice edge ung naapektuhan. after that magsswitch ung DF at UB and UF and DB. (try doing M2 on a solved cube). wlang problema pag UB o DF next target mo kasi nga M2 lang ung 'alg' dun. pero pag UF o DB na, iba na iyon. hope this helps. cheers
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Post by jerjero Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:12 am

if someone can use M2 method the full method please teach me please...
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Post by marc_rendl Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:01 pm

i understood na how to solve the m-slice edges, but im stuck when it comes to parity.. haha.. mas gusto ko ung site ni erik "adikadik".. haha.. hindi ko pa alam kung paano ihahandle ang parity.. ambilis ko na magmemo sa corners..visual memo lang pero magiisip ako ng mental ink sa stickers.. drawing lines or objects that connects evry sticker.. i still like the old pochmann for corners kasi mas marami nga naman bad cases dun sa R2 for corners.. baka magswitch ako sa 3cycle corners later pag namaster ko na ang buong BLD.. hehe
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Post by meaty21 Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:12 am

hey, i use the old poch, with j perm for coner and t perm for edge. sinusubukan kong pag aralan ung 3 cycle for edges. and hindi ko sya magets LALO na ung EO. pano ko malalaman kung oriented na sya? yan ang tanong ko sa sarili ko. ung EP kasi mejo alam ko na eh. di ko rin magets ung sa youtube. hay. kahit sinong marunong mag 3 cycle for corners help naman! thanks. ^^
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Post by bonoan1027 Tue May 13, 2008 6:58 pm

I use M2 for edges and 3 cycle for corners:P
does anyone know what TuRbo is?
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Post by bonoan1027 Wed May 14, 2008 3:43 pm

I think i'll go pure 3 cycle na lang... i think the M2 is the reason of my DNF's
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Post by pepesmith Wed May 14, 2008 5:02 pm

bago n uli method ko hehehhe 2cycle corners 3cycle edges... mas madali parity kesa pure 3cycle(para s akin) maaalis din ung E-perm kasi ayaw n ayaw ko un pag 3cycle corners hehehe
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Post by AuburnIM Fri May 16, 2008 1:25 pm

bonoan1027, TuRBo is Erik Akkersdijk's BLD method. 3 cycle with less setup moves, but more algorithms to learn. http://erikku.er.funpic.org/rubik/
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