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Post by jestoni143 Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:59 pm

Guys, i have been practicing petrus method for 6 months.... ahm, for that past few months nasanay ako sa edge/edge pair... okay lang bang alternative yun sa corner/edge pair sa 2x2 building? Last week ko lang nalaman na dapat pala talaga e corner/edge pair ang petrus, nahiarapan kasi ako sa corner/edge pair kaya inisip ko na edge/edge pair na lang... doing 2x2 in edge/edge pair would take me aroung 4 secs... sa corner/edge naman e 6-8 secs... okay lang ba talaga to? Question
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Post by Jricle Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:16 pm

bro, here in pca, only few using the petrus method, we can't easily help u cuz everyone is now using the fridrich method..
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Post by jestoni143 Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:20 am

ahh ganun ba? sayang naman... Ahm, sinu-sino ba ang mga few na yun? may nakapagsabi sa akin si 'petrusboi' raw, kaya lang di ko s'ya ma pm di ko kasi alam username nya eh.. thanks narin, wait nalang ako muna ng ibang replies....
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Post by nyin Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:32 am

i used the petrus method before. pero hindi ko maintindihan pano yung sinabi mong edge/edge. can you explain further?

tpos feeling ko mas mabilis ka lang dun kasi dun ka sanay. pag nasanay ka sa corner edge pairing, bibilis din yun;/
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Post by jonfrix Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:38 am

MABAIT SI ATE NIN ^^.... well tama si Jricle.... konti lng talga nag gaganun d2 sa pca well meron marunong pero i think d nila ginagamit un pag nag sosolve sila sa compi or what so ever.... well why don`t you do fridrich method... mas tatalas isip mo at mas mabilis puputok ^^,, just kidding...
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Post by jestoni143 Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:49 am

ganito:

color neutal kasi ako. so ganito, sa normal petrus kasi first maghahanap ka ng corner/edge or gagawa ka ng corner/edge pair then i-insert iyon sa either sa 2-color pair ng corner piece mo depende sa mas madaling route... tapos insert mo ung 2 remaining edges to complete 2x2.

sa akin naman, i-insert ko muna ung 2 edges in place, then i-insert ko ung remaining edge and the corner piece...

ganung ung 2x2 building ko... inconvinient ba gamitin to? di lang talaga ako nasanay sa normal petrus hehe.. thanks nyin...


@frix, nope i bet to disagree... kaya nga konti lang gumagamit ng petrus kasi mas mahirap yun.. ahm ang fridrich kasi pure algo, ang petrus 75% intuitive 25% algo.... and besides mas nakakaputok ng utak ang fixing bad edges ng petrus sa simula...

salamat narin... mwah.. eheheh
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Post by jonfrix Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:00 am

ahh i see .. pero for me and as i know konti lng talga nag petrus.... pero dba mas mabilis pa din ang fridhrich?? right? well same lng nmn ang nagagawa nang dalawa eh na sosolve nila ang cube wahahahaha.. ^__^ well mas useful ang fridrich kasi dba nagagamit sa 2x2 un and minsan sa 5x5 or 4x4.. ^^
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Post by jestoni143 Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:14 am

hehehe, loko ka talaga frix as the name suggests... hehhe.. yup, nagagamit ko nga ung algo sa 2x2 na dpat pure intuitive... tulad nalang ng pag mag iinsert ako ng corner sa 2x2 ko pag luck pair ang edge/edge ko... ganun.. pati sa step 3-b ng petrus nagagamit ko rin... salamat...
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Post by kmcruz09 Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:10 pm

Marunong ako mag-Petrus pero di ko ginagamit, hehe, though yung pinakamabilis sa skul namin Petrus gamit, sub 32, kaya ko na talunin yun kung LBL ako, hehe, pero Fridrich na ko ngayon eh.
Anyway, yung fixing bad edges, intuitive ako dun eh. Tapos yung step 4-b naman parang Fridrich F2L lng, hehe.
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Post by 4GO57O Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:28 am

basta pag petrus gawa ka muna ng 2x2x1 block tapos insert nalang last edge...tapos 2x2x3 yung edge tapos conrner + edge pair...tapos inutitive yung pagfix ng bad edges...yunng F2L basta di mo galawin yung 2x2x3 block para tapos na ang OLLE tapos OLLC PLL na kaya sure 3 look para sa mga taong memorize lahat ng PLL...

note: PLL yung sinabi ko
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Post by jestoni143 Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:58 pm

@4GO57O

yup, but nasanay nga ako sa edge/edge pair.. sana nga mabago ko na to asap kaya lang ang hirap na pala baguhin, parang bumagal recognition ko pag nagco-corner/edge pair ako... anyways, sub40 pa rin ako sa petrus kasi nga wala parin akong pang speedcube.. ung dating tag 27.50 pesos parin gamit ko... super lube at modefication lang...plus finger tricks...

bad edges, may "all in one motion" ang 4-bad edges, pair fixing pag 2-bad edges. pag six, combination ng dalawa.. so parang di intuitive un..

pinag aalala ko lang parang beginners method ginagawa ko ^_^... two adjacent edges then inserting corner edge pair.. hehehe baligtad....

@ kmcruz09

talaga LBL sub 32? wao ah.. sabagay sub 25 ang limit ng LBL...
hehehe. ganun? sana lang nga may dumating ditong DIY cube o kahit TRU cube man lang para ma break ko na barrier ko.. T_T 6 months na akong stuck...
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Post by migs Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:09 pm

Mas maganda pag edge/corner Razz pag kasi edge/edge mahihirapan ka dun s mga "fixing the bad edges". Edge/Edge din gamit ko dati kaya nag skip ako lagi dun sa step 4 ata un Very Happy Fridrich na gamit ko ngaun hehehe Razz
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Post by kmcruz09 Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:05 pm

Pwede ring COLL nlang sa last layer since oriented na ung LL Edges.
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Post by 4GO57O Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:26 pm

@jestoni143

...well noon ganyan gamit ko pero..hindi siya parang block building...block building siya pero Sad
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Post by jr_orata Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:38 pm

fridrich na lang po gamitin niyo, pwedeng maslice into two ung time niyo sa petrus pag CFOP ginamit nyo.
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