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Post by wawell24 Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:09 pm

patulong nmn po sa method nyo..(fridrich)
anu b dpat ko gwin?pnu pla dpat ko ggwin?
anu dpat unahin?

tska my nrinig po ako bout dun sa pg buo ng cross sa umpisa na 8 moves lng khit nsan un white??totoo po ba yun?bka my pde mgturo jan..=)

mamat po! Smile
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Post by thugster_9904 Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:40 am

Ako kasi, intuitive F2L muna tapos kabisado ng OLL's na me cross.. Saka na muna ung mga inverted L and Horizontal l (Hope you know what I'm talking about po.) Tapos PLL Q ung mga madadali muna.. Nakakatulong naman kasi kahit ung madadali eh.. case 2 case basis kasi..


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Post by wawell24 Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:27 pm

so kelngan pla tlga tyaga sa pag kakabisado at practis..wajah..ngeon kc LBL method pdin ako,and sbi ng mga ng aadvice skin d2,sanayain ko daw muna dun,pg mgnda na recognixon ko sa LBL,tska ako move paonti onti sa frid method,..


problema ko tlga ung CROSS sa umpisa,it takes me 8-15 secs. bgo ko mabuo un..wajahhhh...
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Post by Lemuelzki Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:48 pm

tama nman ung gngwa mo ehh,,,,ahm improve your recognition and finger trick sa LBL method pra pagpasok mo sa Fridrich ndi kah nah gaaonong mhirapan,,,basta kbisaduhin mo lng lhat ng Algo,,,and praktis Lagi pre,,,Very Happy
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Post by wawell24 Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:09 pm

problema kc sa LBL my mga cases na d kaya ng moves ng LBL so dpat ulit ulitin,mas mkksave sana ko ng tym sa frid KASO..(omg)gnun din,mgbal pdin ako at sira pa printer ko at d mprint ang kopya..ahahaha..tama ka sir...dpat nga pbilis muna ko sa LBL,sbi skin ni ate nyin,kaya daw sub40 sa LBL..Wat da POK..dhil dun na pagtanto tanto ko n siguro kaya ko din un sa ilalim ng mtinding pagsasanay..almost 3 weeks n ko ng cucube,normal lng ba na yung bilis ko (bagal pla dpat) eh d lumalagpas ng 2mins?sa ngeun kc pnkmbilis ko 1:03 (chamba pa..), pro usualy,1:20-1:4x..

normal po b yun?o abnoi?pra lam ko po kung uso ba improvement skin..mamat po!(n_n)
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Post by thugster_9904 Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:32 pm

@TPAMS,

Sorry to ask this pero what is LBL? Noob question.. Shootix.. Ahehe..

Hirap din me sa cross at F2L recog sa Fridrich!!WAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!
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Post by ynajatrice Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:50 pm

eto ang naging history ng methods ko

una sa lahat, hindi ako dumaan ng LBL

i learned on how to solve the cube in 7 steps

cross, first layer, second layer, OLLE, OLLC, PLLC at PLLE

*where O=orientation, P=permutation, LL=last layer, E=edges, C=corners

OLLE has 3 cases
OLLC has 7 cases
PLLC has 2 cases
PLLE has 4 cases

sub120 ako nung inaral ko yang method na yan

pero nung inaral ko na yung bawat case sa bawat step

naging sub40, with modified F2L (mejo intuitive na hnd :p, at matindi ang recognition practice ko)

ang method pala na yan ay tinawag na 4-look LL

kasi, 4 steps ang last layer

then inaral ko ang F2L, yung algs mismo

and nagdrop ang times ko from sub-35 to sub-30 ngaun

but still, i use 4-look LL (method is called F2L + 4-look LL)

about recognition?

mahirap iexplain eh

lalo pa't color neutral ako (sorry naman)

cguro ganito na lang masasabi ko sa recognition

"learn not to care what your hand is doing and care about the next thing to do"

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*edited-parang Bb. Pilipinas lang ah :p


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Post by wawell24 Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:59 pm

*where O=orientation, P=permutation, LL=last layer, E=edges, C=corners

OLLE has 3 cases
OLLC has 7 cases
PLLC has 2 cases
PLLE has 4 cases


-san ko po pde mkita yun?


nhihirapan po kc ako mg memo ng OLL at PLL,xe dko alm kung pnu sila hahatiin..(ung kung anu muna uunahin..xe andmi nila 57 ata sa OLL at 21 sa PLL..)
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Post by ynajatrice Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:49 pm

www.learn2cube.com

yung cases nandun

yung algs, pili ka lang sa mga sites na kung saan may fridrich algs

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Post by wawell24 Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:42 pm

salamat po sir!n_n laking tulong nyo..(^-^)
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Post by thugster_9904 Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:07 pm

Whew!! Nice Help po Sir!!


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Post by ynajatrice Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:10 pm

no problemo!

ok na step din yan from 4-look to 3-look then 2-look LL

pwd daw yung 1-look

ang daming algs mga daw, 1000+?!?

hehehe

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Post by wawell24 Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:38 pm

sir anu b ibg sbhin ng "4-look"."3-look"..mga gnun?titingnan ko n po ngeon ung website..mamat ng mdmi!
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Post by thugster_9904 Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:40 pm

Any one who can answer this question? I want to know this also eh!!
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Post by trane2122 Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:30 pm

@wawell


dude ako ung average ko sa LBL 55 seconds. fake na cube pa gamit ko. haha. sabay tyo aral ng fridrich. ^^
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Post by wawell24 Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:49 pm

cge2 po...n_n..pro practice muna ko pbilis sa LBL method..hhihi..mamat!
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Post by thugster_9904 Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:14 am

Gudluck po!!!Aheheh!!

HAPPY CUBING!!
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Post by kmcruz09 Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:57 am

LBL kaya less than 40 s. LBL ko umaabot hanggang sub25 eh. Pero ngayon study na ko Fridrich, madami ng oras, bakasyon na eh. Very Happy 7 months of LBL ako, average ko sub 35. Kaya ok lng yan. Very Happy
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Post by bulleteliz Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:22 pm

ynajatrice wrote:eto ang naging history ng methods ko

una sa lahat, hindi ako dumaan ng LBL

i learned on how to solve the cube in 7 steps

cross, first layer, second layer, OLLE, OLLC, PLLC at PLLE

*where O=orientation, P=permutation, LL=last layer, E=edges, C=corners

OLLE has 3 cases
OLLC has 7 cases
PLLC has 2 cases
PLLE has 4 cases

sub120 ako nung inaral ko yang method na yan

pero nung inaral ko na yung bawat case sa bawat step

naging sub40, with modified F2L (mejo intuitive na hnd :p, at matindi ang recognition practice ko)

ang method pala na yan ay tinawag na 4-look LL

kasi, 4 steps ang last layer

then inaral ko ang F2L, yung algs mismo

and nagdrop ang times ko from sub-35 to sub-30 ngaun

but still, i use 4-look LL (method is called F2L + 4-look LL)

about recognition?

mahirap iexplain eh

lalo pa't color neutral ako (sorry naman)

cguro ganito na lang masasabi ko sa recognition

"learn not to care what your hand is doing and care about the next thing to do"

Smile

*edited-parang Bb. Pilipinas lang ah :p


Ah!!! Pnu poh b Ung 4-look LL??!!!!!!!!San poh Pwde matutunaN Ung Gnun??!
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Post by S a s o r i Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:32 pm

thugster_9904 wrote:@TPAMS,

Sorry to ask this pero what is LBL? Noob question.. Shootix.. Ahehe..

Hirap din me sa cross at F2L recog sa Fridrich!!WAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

Layer By Layer Method... most basic po
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Post by wawell24 Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:44 pm

kmcruz09 wrote:LBL kaya less than 40 s. LBL ko umaabot hanggang sub25 eh. Pero ngayon study na ko Fridrich, madami ng oras, bakasyon na eh. Very Happy 7 months of LBL ako, average ko sub 35. Kaya ok lng yan. Very Happy

-waw.. affraid tlga kuya?sna ako din..wahh..ung lbl mo po ba my f2l na?o lbl lng tlga?lupet nmn umaabot ng gnun k bilis??

-wala p nmn po akong 2 months ngcucube,sna mgwa ko din yan..n_n
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Post by trane2122 Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:01 pm

@wawell


dude panu ung procedure mu sa last layer?
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Post by kmcruz09 Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:09 pm

Full LBL. Very Happy Tapos sa 4 look LL. bali 2 look OLL, 2 look PLL. Minsan pag ok yung case, tig-1 look lang. Hehe, so kung marunong ka magLBL, for sure may 2 algo ka nang alam sa F2L. Haha, yung correctly inserted corner tapos magiinsert ng edge, 2 yun. haha. Very Happy
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Post by wawell24 Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:22 pm

@trane2122
-lbl lng tlga..dko alm mga twg twag eh..wakokokko..n_n

@kmcruz09
-hrap nmn..wahaha..problema ko mgkabisado..wahahaha..sana bumlis n ko,ng bebelow min. n nmn ako..waaa.kya ko to..
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Post by xiphuscube Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:26 pm

Kaya yan wawell. Konting algs lng muna kabisaduhin mo tapos try to "imprint" it to your fingers ^_^V
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