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Post by lanz343 Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:58 pm

I was just curious about how people normally memorize the algorithms.

Do you memorize the notations?
Or do you memorize the movements? (ex. you do the algorithm over and over until you can do it without a guide.)
Or maybe do you do both?
Or (most likely not) do you not memorize any at all?
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Post by jolo_mat2008 Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:25 pm

most people here memorize the movements..muscle memory..masyadong mahirap imemorize ang notations..plus..mabagal ang pagrecall then pagexecute..
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Post by ni09ne Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:37 am

but for me @jolo i memorize the notation first..while memorizing the movements..
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Post by ert_anjo Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:00 am

ako sabay ung memorization ng notation at movments,.

mas comfortable ung utak ko dun.,

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Post by TheJoker Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:12 am

movement ang da best... before memorizing the moves... plan it on your fingertricks... find a move that it is comfortable... kahit mabagal lang sya sa simula...

then it will evolve to a fast finger tricks... no need to memorize the algos... just that you can read notations correctly is enough...

then practice it overtime... two days... mabilis bilis na sya... tapos magugulat ka bigla... mapapansin mo na parang maiksi lang pala yun algs pero pag binasa mo ang haba-haba...

muscles memory is the way... okay...

hehehehehehe... Very Happy:D:D:D:D
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Post by 3stan08 Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:19 pm

Good day po.
I agree with Sir Allan, "muscle memory" is the best.
Prefer ko din sya because kapag nasanay ka sa movement ng algo, mas mabilis ang execution mo..that is "move without thinking".
I notice lang kasi, nung first time ko mag-memo ng PLL, (Fridrich algs), notation muna tapos movement. I thought okei n sya but ng magpalit ako ulit ng PLL algs, I did the same but this time, I read the notation then sabay movement, then nung makita ko na yung galaw ng cube, I made it a point na ma-familiarize ng fingers ko yung movement.
("move without thinking") - What I notice is, pag nakita ko na yung pattern, kusa ng ini-execute ng fingers ko, dati kasi iniisip ko pa tapos dun pa lang gagalaw fingers ko...parang nangyayari skin now is hindi n mksabay yung mind ko sa galaw ng daliri ko, ayaw ko n nga din tingnan kasi pansin ko din, kapag tinitingnan ko, nabagal pa yung execution...I don't know..experience ko lang po.

So, yun lang po. Just shared lang yung "MY" memo method.

Keep on cubing.
GOD BLESS.


ps:
pero hindi ako mabilis ha, like the masters...
...papunta pa lng..he he he. Think positive!
Kaka-break ko p lng ng sub-50 barrier.
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Post by xion06 Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:37 pm

Tama ung dalawa nating mga sir n sina sir Allan at sir Tristan muscle memory po da best kc kung ako lng pag nagtanong k ng algo d ko sya ma i recite kc memorize ko sya sa mga kamay ko d ko sya ma execute kung sasabihin ko isaisang rotations
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Post by luigiyotoko Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:15 pm

muscle movements ...it is faster for me
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Post by Syalang Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:04 pm

movements preferably... haha.. gawin mong triggers ang mga algo den bilis na execution na!
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Post by Lloyd Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:20 pm

pag nakita ko automatic na kamay ko gagwa Very Happy
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Post by Lyrids Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:24 pm

TheJoker wrote:movement ang da best... before memorizing the moves... plan it on your fingertricks... find a move that it is comfortable... kahit mabagal lang sya sa simula...

then it will evolve to a fast finger tricks... no need to memorize the algos... just that you can read notations correctly is enough...

then practice it overtime... two days... mabilis bilis na sya... tapos magugulat ka bigla... mapapansin mo na parang maiksi lang pala yun algs pero pag binasa mo ang haba-haba...

muscles memory is the way... okay...

hehehehehehe... Very Happy:D:D:D:D


Yeah right kuya allan! boto din ako sayo.. hahah..I memorize the movements coz its the best.. lalo na pag naka software pa yung pineplay.. ang gngwa ko dun is 5moves muna tpos rewind tpos 5moves ulit hanggang mabuo ko yung isang algo then formulate ka na ng fingertricks para dun sa algo na yun na comfortable ka aus un.. aheheh... Very Happy:D
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Post by strawberryshake Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:26 pm


minsan parehas notations and movements
pg madali lng un notations...Smile
pero kung mahirap ung notations...
movements nlng...
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Post by joseph10 Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:19 pm

Most of cubers minmemo sya ng hindi diretsahan kagad kasi hinde mo kaya mag-memo ng 100++ algorithms in 1 day. I recomend na mag memo ka ng mga 5-10 algortihms per day and practice mo ung notations and movements nya.
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Post by S a s o r i Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:21 pm

It's better both... kasi kung dedepende lng sa muscle memory... there is a high chance na magkaroon ka ng one hand amnesia pag lumabas ung case na minemo mo...
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Post by emaypunk Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:05 am

I memorize the movements!!
hehe...
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Post by shamdrin99 Sun Jul 27, 2008 5:20 pm

natral..kelngan memo. mu pwa masolve mu ang cube.
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Post by omarismyname Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:00 pm

memorizing the movements allows you to easily perform its mirror ^_^
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Post by charles_13 Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:39 pm

movements ako.. nalilito kasi ako sa mga notation..hahahaha!
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Post by Erika Gomez Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:57 pm

MOVEMENTS!!! ..

ako mismo, movements -------> muscle memory

advantage nya rin is mas madali mong mamememo at mamamaster yung algo.
kasi parang nagdodoble-doble ka ng memorization
pag notation+movement. unlike if movement lang, masasanay ka lang with your muscle memory.

pero jan ako nahirapan. kasi i started memorizing algos ng PLL at OLL WITHOUT FINGERTRICKS.
so, nasanay ako na. "hands" ang nagcocoordinate sa muscle memorization..
my muscles, my fingers (or hands? =p) ,,,
e used na in doing the algo that way --> w/o fingertricks.

So ngayon, pag tinatry ko magfingertricks sa isang algo,
na "a-amnesia" ako.
That's because, i started w/o fingertricks and memo'd+mastered the movements w/o fingertricks.


Yun naman ang advantage ng namemo mo yung notations.
Kasi, kung sa case ko sana, if namemo ko by notations, edi sana pag nagtry ako magfingertricks, e tatabla.

In my case, pag nagtry na ako magfingertricks sa mga algs, it's like repeating my memorization + masterization of the supposed to be matatapos na na Fridrich escapades. Bale, parang uulit ako mula sa simula lalo na sa OLL at PLL na by movements ko minemo.

Isa pang advantage ng notations is sa OH.
maraming nahihirapan at na-aamnesia sa OH (sa oll at pll) ,,
kasi by movements nila minemo yung mga algs which is ---> using both hands (3x3 speedsolve). muscle memory and coordination of both hands.
Unlike if kabisado mo pati notations, madali nalang mag-OH.




pero ang mas preffered parin talaga is movements nalang.
pero movements+notations would be best.
kasi mas maraming advantages at paggagamitan yun.
pero kung ayaw mo pahirapan sarili mo, movements.
masasanay ka lang. ü
Lalo na kung may fingertricks ka na nung nagmememo ka ng OLLs at PLLs, pag nasanay yung muscle memory at fingers coordination mo, di ka mauuwi sa handtricks. Sad
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Post by carlocalma Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:25 pm

I memorize the notations and the movements.

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Post by Kris Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:02 pm

Memorize mo both yan din kasi ang ginagawa ko

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Post by oretniprac Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:25 pm

movements and some notations. para di ma "One Hand Amnesia". kapag nag OH ako tapos di ko maalala yung execution, iisipin ko yung notation para ma-execute ko ng tama. hehe
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Post by javi2dmax Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:21 pm

i do it paulit ulit and the movement ....for some i didnt memorize the algo...so sa lbl na oh (hahah) nakakalimutan ko sa lasl layer corner part...so ngayon sa pag memo ko ng fridrich...memrize ko na din algo
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Post by wizcube Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:38 pm

movement and notation
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