anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
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anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
nais ko pong malaman kung anu ang mas effective sa paggawa ng cross at sa pagpapabilis dn sa pagcucube.
ako po kasi ay neutral sa paggawa ng cross. kung ano po ung nkkta kong mas madali gawing cross aun ung ginagamit kong color.
makakatulong po ba sa pagimprove kung mag waone color ako sa paggawa ng cross?
kelangan ko po ang iniong tulong.
ako po kasi ay neutral sa paggawa ng cross. kung ano po ung nkkta kong mas madali gawing cross aun ung ginagamit kong color.
makakatulong po ba sa pagimprove kung mag waone color ako sa paggawa ng cross?
kelangan ko po ang iniong tulong.
neljoshua- 2x2x2
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Re: anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
i think 1 color... so u can concentrate on your f2l... di mo kac ma recognize ang f2l ng mabilis kung marami kang kulay na titignan... unless if 1 lang, den u can immediately say that "uy! i need this piece to complete my pair"... efficient recognition i say
Syalang- 4x4x4
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Re: anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
color neutral din ako
check mo yan madami kang makikitang sagot hehehe
https://pinoyspeedcubers.forumotion.com/speedcubing-f7/color-neutral-t1793.htm?highlight=color+neutral
check mo yan madami kang makikitang sagot hehehe
https://pinoyspeedcubers.forumotion.com/speedcubing-f7/color-neutral-t1793.htm?highlight=color+neutral
oretniprac- 3x3x3
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Re: anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
may tanong ako, kc ako gmgwa ng cross sa yellow or white, neutral n b yun?
mikee177- 2x2x2
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Re: anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
ah ganun po b. salamat
pero sub-20 na po ako na gamit ang neutral.
pero bnabalak ko pong mag-one color.
cnubukan ko na po kasi dati pero mejo nahirapan ako kaya bumalik ako sa pagiging neutral. ehehhe
pero sub-20 na po ako na gamit ang neutral.
pero bnabalak ko pong mag-one color.
cnubukan ko na po kasi dati pero mejo nahirapan ako kaya bumalik ako sa pagiging neutral. ehehhe
neljoshua- 2x2x2
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Re: anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
i think
one color...
ganun kc ako eh...
dun ako sanay...
kung sanay ka na din dun
sa pagiging color neutral mo
edi un nlng...
bka kc manibago ka
pg ng one color ka eh...
suggestion lng po...
ikaw...
you decide...
...♥
Re: anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
hmmm.....
pagnag aaverage timing kc ako, minsan cnubukan kong magone color pero pag may nakita akong marami nang buo natutukso akong mag neutral. heheh
kau? ganun dn b kau? hehe
pagnag aaverage timing kc ako, minsan cnubukan kong magone color pero pag may nakita akong marami nang buo natutukso akong mag neutral. heheh
kau? ganun dn b kau? hehe
neljoshua- 2x2x2
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Re: anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
i do one color my classmate does neutral..we have the same averages
Re: anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
aw kelan ka pa ba sub 20? mukang naunahan mo pa ako magsub20
na color neutral a
na color neutral a
jusay_mitch29- 4x4x4
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Re: anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
color neutral....
para sanay ka din kahit sa ibang cube na walang nakasanayang kulay...
dati e 1 color din ako...
kaso nung nagpalit ako ng cube... hirap na hirap ako...
ndi naman nakakabagal kapag sanay ka sa neutral e..
para sanay ka din kahit sa ibang cube na walang nakasanayang kulay...
dati e 1 color din ako...
kaso nung nagpalit ako ng cube... hirap na hirap ako...
ndi naman nakakabagal kapag sanay ka sa neutral e..
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Re: anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
kung pagbabasihan ay kung ano ang mas may mararating in terms of speed, siyempre one color
i.luv.cube- 4x4x4
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Re: anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
i.luv.cube wrote:kung pagbabasihan ay kung ano ang mas may mararating in terms of speed, siyempre one color
e di ba mas kita mo ang mas kaunting moves kapag neutral?
mas mabilis yun
hehe.. opinyon ko lang po..
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Re: anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
Depende lang lang kung san ka kumportable.
Nero_IV- 2x2x2
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Re: anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
jusay_mitch29 wrote:aw kelan ka pa ba sub 20? mukang naunahan mo pa ako magsub20
na color neutral a
last week ng june. pnaghandaan ko tlaga ung rcpo eh. hehehe
pero dahil sa sobrang kaba at sa sobrang nginig ng mga kamay ko mejo lumagpas ako ng 20. pero fastest ko nung compettion 16.
neljoshua- 2x2x2
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Re: anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
here is one conception about which color...
color neutral or not... kung sub30 ka... it is not much of any difference... mabagal ka lang maginspect kasi mamimili ka pa kung anong color ang sisimulan mo ng madali... and with 15 seconds time pressure... yun rates mo ng mali ang napili mong color is high... unlike sa one color... fixed rates na sya...
believe me... i saw jusay sa RCPO2k8... he can't use all the potential of color neutral... pressured eh... lakas pa ng kaba... and one at PCU... color neutral yun isang studyante... sub35... pero when i time him correctly... he can't find any good color to start... 70% tuloy na napipili nyan color for the cross is time consuming to solve... ayun baloon to sub40...
pero kung sub20 ka na... mas lamang ang mga color neutral... kasi kung sub20 ka na... ibig sabihin you are a very experience fast cuber... and you master the color neutral...
dito medyo talo na ang one color... at lalo pang lalamang ang color neutral if he master X-CROSS... kasi super dali na sa color neutral yun...
kasi sa sub20... gusto mong pumunta sa sub15... you need every seconds you can spare... maliit na ang mundo sa sub20...
BUT... kung nasimulan mo ng COLOR NEUTRAL ka... praktis lang ng praktis... pero kung one color ka lang at gusto mong magaral ng color neutral... hindi po advisable... mahihirapan ka lang tapos a mere seconds lang malamang matitipid mo sa overall time... pero nasa sa inyo po yan...
sana nakatulong... hehehehehehhe... :D:D:D
color neutral or not... kung sub30 ka... it is not much of any difference... mabagal ka lang maginspect kasi mamimili ka pa kung anong color ang sisimulan mo ng madali... and with 15 seconds time pressure... yun rates mo ng mali ang napili mong color is high... unlike sa one color... fixed rates na sya...
believe me... i saw jusay sa RCPO2k8... he can't use all the potential of color neutral... pressured eh... lakas pa ng kaba... and one at PCU... color neutral yun isang studyante... sub35... pero when i time him correctly... he can't find any good color to start... 70% tuloy na napipili nyan color for the cross is time consuming to solve... ayun baloon to sub40...
pero kung sub20 ka na... mas lamang ang mga color neutral... kasi kung sub20 ka na... ibig sabihin you are a very experience fast cuber... and you master the color neutral...
dito medyo talo na ang one color... at lalo pang lalamang ang color neutral if he master X-CROSS... kasi super dali na sa color neutral yun...
kasi sa sub20... gusto mong pumunta sa sub15... you need every seconds you can spare... maliit na ang mundo sa sub20...
BUT... kung nasimulan mo ng COLOR NEUTRAL ka... praktis lang ng praktis... pero kung one color ka lang at gusto mong magaral ng color neutral... hindi po advisable... mahihirapan ka lang tapos a mere seconds lang malamang matitipid mo sa overall time... pero nasa sa inyo po yan...
sana nakatulong... hehehehehehhe... :D:D:D
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Re: anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
tama yan, ganyan din ung kapatid ko... madalas lumalagpas sya 15 sec inspection kc hnd sya mkapagdecide kung saan sya mag start..
pro astig kc pag neutral, kht saan pde ka... ^_^
lalo na pag sinabi ng ibang tao na, "cge nga sa ibang color ka mag start" potek wasak tau dun!! hahahah... dun din lamang ung neutral!! heheh
pro astig kc pag neutral, kht saan pde ka... ^_^
lalo na pag sinabi ng ibang tao na, "cge nga sa ibang color ka mag start" potek wasak tau dun!! hahahah... dun din lamang ung neutral!! heheh
kingpsyzor- 3x3x3
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Re: anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
noob lang ako pero sa tingin ko parehas may advantage:
1 color-faster recognition/look
neutral-better cube state/takes good advantage on "inspection" before timer starts (saka astig tignan... i use 1 color though >.<)
1 color-faster recognition/look
neutral-better cube state/takes good advantage on "inspection" before timer starts (saka astig tignan... i use 1 color though >.<)
omarismyname- 2x2x2
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Re: anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
Ngayon ko lang nagets yang one color or neutral. Ako kasi neutral. Pinipili ko yung madaling mabuong cross kaya mabagal ako sa F2L. Pero siguro mag one color ako ngayon base on what TheJoker(ang galing mo sa Darl Knight! Why so serious? hehehe) and the others. Salamat sa info ah.
wowie- 2x2x2
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Re: anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
hahaha napncn mo pala kua allan. pero sa totoo lahn sa sobrang kaba at pressure natataranta ako. pero kung ano ung unang kulay na sumipot sa harap ko un na ung cross ko ^__^
jusay_mitch29- 4x4x4
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Re: anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
makikita nyo naman sa mga fast cuber sa buong mundo... bihira silang magcolor neutral... and some didn't even bother to use it or even learn it...
kasi nga only the cross or the first step will suffice... eh paano na yun f2l, OLL, PLL...
the rest you need to practice F2L, OLL and PLL on other color... which is time consuming already... eh sa one color ang hirap ng masterin at praktisin... dadagdagan mo pa ng lima pang color...
ask HARRIS CHAN, JASON BAUM... nakausap ko na sila dito last march about color neutral...
alam nyo sagot sa akin ni HARRIS CHAN... "the time you are wasting to learn color neutral and put it on your F2L look ahead by practicing... you will gain alot more than learning color neutral..."
JASON BAUM... "i will practice my OLL PLL... i want to reduce it to sub4 seconds average on LL part... than have to learn color neutral... i will only gain a mere seconds for the cross which i can do it on my one color..."
well that is not the exact word for word... pero ganun ang pagkakasabi nila sa kin along time ago...
only a waste of time... mag praktis ka na lang daw sa iba... like F2L look ahead... magiimprove ka pa...
pero sa mga color neutral na talaga... praktis na lang daw ng praktis... then X-CROSS is a must daw... kasi mas madali X-CROSS sa color neutral...
at pagdating sa X-CROSS with color neutral... si JUSAY MITCH... magaling dyan...
okay... hehehehhehe... :D:D:D
kasi nga only the cross or the first step will suffice... eh paano na yun f2l, OLL, PLL...
the rest you need to practice F2L, OLL and PLL on other color... which is time consuming already... eh sa one color ang hirap ng masterin at praktisin... dadagdagan mo pa ng lima pang color...
ask HARRIS CHAN, JASON BAUM... nakausap ko na sila dito last march about color neutral...
alam nyo sagot sa akin ni HARRIS CHAN... "the time you are wasting to learn color neutral and put it on your F2L look ahead by practicing... you will gain alot more than learning color neutral..."
JASON BAUM... "i will practice my OLL PLL... i want to reduce it to sub4 seconds average on LL part... than have to learn color neutral... i will only gain a mere seconds for the cross which i can do it on my one color..."
well that is not the exact word for word... pero ganun ang pagkakasabi nila sa kin along time ago...
only a waste of time... mag praktis ka na lang daw sa iba... like F2L look ahead... magiimprove ka pa...
pero sa mga color neutral na talaga... praktis na lang daw ng praktis... then X-CROSS is a must daw... kasi mas madali X-CROSS sa color neutral...
at pagdating sa X-CROSS with color neutral... si JUSAY MITCH... magaling dyan...
okay... hehehehhehe... :D:D:D
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Re: anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
JOKER! salamat sa information!
nakatulong lahat sila...
pero anu ung X-cross??
nakatulong lahat sila...
pero anu ung X-cross??
neljoshua- 2x2x2
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Re: anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
depende kung saan ka komportable, pero i think its olor neutral ang mas maganda ka2lad pag magbubuo ka ng cross kung mahirap ang pagsolve ng cross sa puti pede ka lumipat sa ibang colors na mas madali , pero siempre mas maganda kung talagang master mo ung neutral , neutral po gamit ko sa 2x2 fridrick method sub 6 sec. , wahehhe.
marccube- 2x2x2
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Re: anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
sympre,,mas advantage ung neutral...pre,,mahirap to....hehhe
Re: anu ang mas advantage? neutral o one color?
waw flattered me. na-special mention ako. my only goal lahn naman is to reach a sub 15 ave on color neutral para ako ung 1st(i think so...) then stop na ako
jusay_mitch29- 4x4x4
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