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Post by omarismyname Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:46 am

neljoshua wrote:JOKER! salamat sa information!
nakatulong lahat sila...

pero anu ung X-cross??

extended cross- kasabay ng cross mo may laman na yung 1 slot...

nakapakali ng chance na makagawa ka ng xcross pag color neutral, kasi kahit anong color ng corner-edge pair na makita mo is an opportunity for an xcross
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Post by dong Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:43 pm

may tanong lng ako..sino nakakaalam kung si nakajima neutral color o hindi?
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Post by strawberryshake Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:21 pm


@dong
ang lam ko c nakaji
eh ndi color neutral
blue crosser yata xia eh
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Post by dong Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:35 pm

nakita ko na...yellow crosser si nakaji..top nya kasi white..hula rin lng
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Post by TheJoker Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:03 pm

nakajima is not a COLOR NEUTRAL... blue cross po sya... japan color scheme po sya... okay po...

as every top speed cuber... color neutral only take an advantage of the first step of fridrich... which is the CROSS... and X-CROSS is a must to learn if you are a color neutral... if you don't know X-CROSS... it is useless to be a color neutral... it is what they say...

okay po... thanks po marami... heheheheheheh...
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Post by neljoshua Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:27 pm

ah! un pla un!
panu b matututunan ng x-cross?
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Post by omarismyname Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:15 am

neljoshua wrote:ah! un pla un!
panu b matututunan ng x-cross?

http://www.speedcubing.com/chris/ec-strategy.html
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Post by neljoshua Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:34 am

ah salamat!
gnagawa ko na rin pla yan!
nde ko lng alam tawag.
salamat po ulit.

effective nga po talaga yan saming mga color neutral.
at isang advantage nga yan para samin.
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Post by S a s o r i Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:11 pm

sa 2x2x2 required ang color neutrality...

fast cross ang advantage ng color neutral.. sinasamantala sa inspection yon kung anong kulay ang mas madaling mag cross...
but it takes a lot of time mastering it xD.

dalawa lng kilala ko at nakakalaro kong color neutral...
si jusay at si oretniprac..
ang advantage nila.. kahit anong setup move mo sa scramble para mahirap ung cross... wala sa kanila yon Razz
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Post by omarismyname Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:32 pm

neljoshua wrote:ah salamat!
gnagawa ko na rin pla yan!
nde ko lng alam tawag.
salamat po ulit.

effective nga po talaga yan saming mga color neutral.
at isang advantage nga yan para samin.

siguro pag namaster mo yan maaaply mo 99% of the time tapos pagkagawa mo ng 2x2x2 makakapili ka pa among 3colors kung alin magiging bottom face para madali lang pag insert ng last 2 bottom edges...
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Post by MetaboringJohnCañares Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:16 pm

For me, its one color (although "sometimes" uses yellow as an alternative).
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Post by jolo_mat2008 Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:56 am

tingin ko mas advantage ang color neutral if and only if being color neutral doesn't affect the cuber's f2l recognition and pairing (wala naman masyado problema sa OLL and PLL..madali lang naman magrecognize ng case kahit sa ibang kulay)..kasi color neutrality + xcross? i think that's one of the most useful combos a cuber can have.Smile sadly..i don't have either.Sad
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Post by luk Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:58 pm

one color talaga para dun mag iimprove yung recognition..^_^.
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Post by strawberryshake Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:19 pm


o see..
tama hula ko...
n_n
japanese color scheme
nga c nakaji
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Post by dotdotdot Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:09 pm

aw...really?!!?...try ko color neutral dati pro mas nag improve ako nung nag 1 color akow..^^..
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Post by oretniprac Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:24 am

jolo_mat2008 wrote:tingin ko mas advantage ang color neutral if and only if being color neutral doesn't affect the cuber's f2l recognition and pairing (wala naman masyado problema sa OLL and PLL..madali lang naman magrecognize ng case kahit sa ibang kulay)..kasi color neutrality + xcross? i think that's one of the most useful combos a cuber can have.Smile sadly..i don't have either.Sad

uu astig yung pagiging color neutral (at isa ako don haha) tapos may xcross pa! pano pa kaya kung dalawa!

kaya ayown, next target ko xcross Twisted Evil
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Post by neljoshua Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:44 am

i agree with kuya jolo_mat2008
astig pla talaga kung color neutral.
pero nkdepende pa rin sa cuber ang pagiging astig ng color neutral.
mahalaga sa color neutral ang recognition sa F2L na madaling matutunan/mamaster sa one color. pero mas madalas ang paggamit ng xcross sa color neutral kesa sa one color na isang advantage sa F2L.

kaya kung color neutral ka at magaling ka na sa F2l recognition at mamamaster mo pa ang xcross pede ka ng....makasub-15! hehehe target ko yun!! sub-15!!
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Post by venom Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:23 pm

i think IF AND ONLY IF, 2 persons are EQUALLY adept in using both one color and neutral, the advantage would go to the color neutral. because he would have more options. especially if under time pressure. Very Happy


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Post by 13themogod Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:03 pm

pra sa kin ms maganda ang neutral color ka kc my instances na may x cross...
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Post by jolo_mat2008 Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:48 pm

@ 13themogod : may instances naman ang one color na magkakaron ng xcross..mas malaki lang ang chance ng neuts..

btw..old topic na to..over one month since the post b4 your post..
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Post by shiner Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:45 pm

ONE1` ^_^
hirap mg neutral.
naalala ko, nung nagsimula ko mg cube. neutral tlga ko ^_^ ehehe.
gnun nmn tlga un dbah ^_^
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Post by lorcan Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:27 am

stick to one color siguro. . mas magiging familiarized ka kasi

pero it depends pa rin siguro sa cuber kung ano gusto niya. .
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Post by jusay_mitch29 Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:24 pm

WTF! buhay pa pala tong topic na toh... bast pag color neutral ka maganda kung may alam kang advance method para sa cross para isang tingin lahn alam na kagad kung may cross o wala... pinaka maganda para sakin ung xcross laking tulong nito pramis... pag one color praktis lahn ng cross building solve ka na agad.. ^__^ patayin nio naman tong topic na toh ang tanda na nito e Razz
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Post by shiner Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:49 pm

wahaha!. bakit naman pa2tayin? ^^ wag na.,. hayaan nlang kung cno mag post.
di` natin alam. baka maka2long ito sa iba. ^_^ ok? eheh, *peace.

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Post by simplykate Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:18 pm

its neutral po...

mas madali,..=D
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