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Post by Guest Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:46 pm

ano ba benefits ng slow solving?
ndi ko kasi ma-gets...
nag i-i-slow solve ako, pero mukha namang walang nagbabago

paki explain na din...
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Post by jOms Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:54 pm

ahmm. pag kasi nag slow solve, mas madali mong makikita ung next step na gagawin mo.

maganda to sa f2l. pag nag slow solve ka, diredirecho kasi makakahanap ka kaagad ng bagong pair.

hindi ung mabilis ka nga, titigil ka naman para lang mag hanap ng pair. kung slow solve, habang ginagawa mo ung algorithm for that pair, makikita mo na ung next pair na gagawin mo.

and i think it should not be slow solve but slow moves?
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Post by Guest Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:07 pm

ahh.. better recognition kapag sa slow solving/moving?
e yung recognition na natutunan mo sa slow solve, madadala mo ba kapag binilisan mo na ang solving?

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Post by i.luv.cube Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:22 pm

@Hwoarang

yup, dahana dahan, pabilis ng pabilis...

parang ganito yan... pag nilagay mo ang palaka sa kumukulong tubig, tatalon yun... pero pag nilagay mo sa malamig, then dahan dahan mong itaas yung temperature hanggang kumulo, magstay siya dun hanggang ma dedz..

parang metronome.. may moves per minute na rate...

eventaully, pag na master mo na, mabilis mo ng magagawa yung mga yun...
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Post by jOms Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:31 pm

@ i.luv.cube. nice example.


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Yun na nga. tulad ng nang yari sakin. ung napaka samang f2l ko dati. nag iimprove dahil sa slow moving ko for just 2 days. ano pa kaya kung patuloy ko pa? kaso busy na eh. and btw.. wag daw muna mag time kapag di pa gaanong mabilis, nakakapalito daw un..
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Post by kroz Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:50 pm

tama sila, better recognition for the next pair, nakikita mo kasi pinupuntahan nung ibang pieces while dahan dahan mong ineexecute yung pair na iinsert mo, dapat lng nasa tamang tempo ka, minsan kasi naeexcite ayun nabibilisan hanggang sa nawala na sa mata mo yung sinusundan mo, may disadvantage nga lng, kung minsan pati oll at pll nasslow solve ko, hahaha

speaking of metronome, may ginawa ako ibat ibang tempo, vinideohan ko, pakita ko n lng sayo pag nagcubemeet tayo ulet... nkakaaliw, hehehe, ung signature na ginawa ko bro... nasend ko na syo... kaw na bahala
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Post by ni09ne Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:23 pm

d lang po sa f2l maganda ang slowsolve pati na sa OLL at PLL..kac alam mo n agad gagawin mo pagnkta mo n xa..slowsolve is recommended "daw" sa mga inconsistent sub20..un ang sabi nila..
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Post by Syalang Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:40 pm

recognition... super effectivE!
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Post by trane2122 Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:51 pm

Recogniton, lesser moves, less cube rotation, and it can make your F2L consistent.
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Post by Guest Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:30 pm

matry ko nga yung slow solve// baka makas sub 30 na din ako.. saktong 30sec ave ko e.. hehe... 33 kapag tinopak..

ginagawa ko yun dati, ndi ko naman makita improvements nun sakin... (siguro ndi ko lang napapansin)

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Post by trane2122 Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:36 pm

nah, di mo naman talaga agad makikita ang improvement nun agad agad ee. try mo mag slow solve hanggang ma reach yung avg mo sa normal solve. tulad ngayon, 30 avg mo diba? strating now mag slow solve ka na hanggang mag avg ka ng 30 sa slow solve basta sa F2L lang ha. wag ka mag slow sa Last layer lalo na kung 2 Look Oll or Pll ka. ok? done.
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Post by jOms Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:40 pm

@Hwoarang ako tol, hindi naman mabilis talaga, pero based on my experience, may mali sayo. OLL, 20 PLL 12?

bat ganon? dapat dude memorize all PLLs or kahit hindi na ung G perms. mas important un.. mas magandang i 2 look ang OLL. sana di ka magalit, opinion ko lang.
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Post by ni09ne Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:37 pm

my point si jOms...tapusin mo muna kaya pll mo?it will be very helpful..
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Post by RanieLCuber Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:22 pm

yes PLL first before OLL's
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Post by Guest Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:30 pm

wahehe.. yes mga tol.. kakatamad magsaulo..
ndi kasi ako nagssaulo hanggat ndi ko namamaster ang isang perm...

pero sige, hehe,, naisip ko din yun na makakatulong nga magsaulo.. pero problema ko kasi e f2l e...

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Post by jOms Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:48 pm

Ah. F2L namn just takes practice daw.

minsan nga ang ginagawa ko, Pag tapos na 2nd layer, scramble ko na ulit. xD

sa pll naman, 2 at a time lang ako, malito pag sobrang dami agad.
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Post by fukuro Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:03 am

effective dn b slow solve s intuitive f2l?
dami kcng f2l cases e
inconsistent dn time ko minsan lng mkasub50
cross p lng problemado n ko. hehe!
pero s last layer ko ok nman.

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Post by AnotherCuber Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:24 am

halos lahat naman dito intuitive ang F2L, mas maganda kasi kapag slow solve, nakikita\nat-trace mo kung saan napupunta yung mga cubies na nasa paligid and yung next target pair mo...
parang sa slow sloving... you get a good overall view ng mga cubies as you insert each pair on their respective slots....

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Post by omarismyname Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:42 am

kroz wrote:tama sila, better recognition for the next pair, nakikita mo kasi pinupuntahan nung ibang pieces while dahan dahan mong ineexecute yung pair na iinsert mo, dapat lng nasa tamang tempo ka, minsan kasi naeexcite ayun nabibilisan hanggang sa nawala na sa mata mo yung sinusundan mo, may disadvantage nga lng, kung minsan pati oll at pll nasslow solve ko, hahaha

speaking of metronome, may ginawa ako ibat ibang tempo, vinideohan ko, pakita ko n lng sayo pag nagcubemeet tayo ulet... nkakaaliw, hehehe, ung signature na ginawa ko bro... nasend ko na syo... kaw na bahala

yan din ngyayari sakin minsan, LL na slow solve parin, nawawala sa isip ko. you have to always remember na pag nasa last corner-edge pair kana fast na. and 1 benefit i got from slow solve is i learned to slot from other angles
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Post by rikku69otaku Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:53 am

ngayun ko lang nakita benefits nun ah!
question lang....
is slow solving also recommended with
neutral colored cross solvers??
kasi ako hindi ako one-colored eh.. Question
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Post by omarismyname Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:39 am

oo naman
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Post by luk Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:23 am

ok lng namn ung numbers ng na memo mong OLL.. juz memo all the PLL.. dahil mahirap kapag 2 look ang PLL..hmnn...

gamit talaga ang slow solving para sa look ahead at para sa pag calma pero fast na solve.. hinde ka parang tensionado mag solve na nabagal na 2loy time mo..hehe.. 8 really happens lalo na madaming tao na naka tingin..^_^.
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Post by marc_rendl Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:13 am

slow solving is better appreciated when you are in sub-23.. or you have memorized almost all algorithms.. this enhances your hand-eye coordination in f2l making it more smooth (doesn't have pauses in between f2l)
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Post by ViNZsters Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:30 pm

makikta mo kung ano ang next na step at maka plan ka kung ano ang susunod na algorithms na gagawin mo
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Post by luigiyotoko Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:45 pm

i think you identify colors more
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