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Post by mansilla on Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:41 pm

hello po... may tatanung lang po ako..
COLL lang po kxe alam ko eh tpos sub 30 time... Sad
possible po ba na mag sub 20 gamit lang COLL??
TY po sa reply..
penge na rin po ng advice para po bumilis... Very Happy

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Re: COLL

Post by Syalang on Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:09 pm

i think mahirap... its not that easy kc if yan lang nalalaman mo...

tip #1... memo all algs... its really important to reach sub 20! i swear!

tip3 - nth power... Practice!

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Re: COLL

Post by mansilla on Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:15 pm

ibig sabihin kaylangan po tlaga memorize all pll??

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Re: COLL

Post by bonoan1027 on Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:22 pm

If you want sub 20.. and tamad to memo the rest of the OLLs.... get sub 11 F2L. 9 second LL is enough time na

F2L is 2/3 of the cube... which means that it is the most important step. Work on this more. LL is easy to get down to sub 5 seconds... So unahan mo na ang F2L mo

You can also do what is called the "VH system" or "ZBF2L" or simply... Edge Control... Wherein when you slot the last F2L pair, all the LL edges are oriented and you can do a COLL alg.
It's pretty intuitive, if you ask me.

But don't make balewala LL... it is also important. Memorize and optimize your algs! Don't be lazy.. 1 alg a day, perhaps.

This can be shown by jolo_mat2008
-Okay F2L (12 sec)
-Uses Edge Control
-Is gradually memorizing all PLLs and some OLLs
-Sub 21 (and ongoing )

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Re: COLL

Post by mansilla on Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:28 pm

is it possible to get sub 20 in using COLL??

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Re: COLL

Post by jusay_mitch29 on Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:36 am

mansilla wrote:is it possible to get sub 20 in using COLL??

as long as nobody said that it is impossible and including the fact that he/she has memorized COLL... it is possible...

same with what they said to me before... "pare imposibleng mag-sub20 kas sa color nuetral na yahn tignan mo si thrawst tagal tagal na nagcucube, color nuetral, ndi pa din sub 20. mag 1 color ka na lahn"... this is what i said "so what ndi ako si thrawst at balang araw ipapalunok ko sainyo yan kalokohan nio"... this is my philosophy "never compare anyone to anyone because no matter how alike they may be they will never be the same for they are 2 different persons who have 2 different views in life"...

guess what... I am sub 20... i proved them wrong... i got this from a book and i love to quote it "whatever your mind desires, you CAN achieve. It may take time. but we got time on our side for we do what we desire"

sana may napulot ka sa lahat ng mambo jambo na pinag tatatatype ko... totoo lahat yahn kaso nakalimutan ko kung ano ung book na un... Razz

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Re: COLL

Post by jestoni143 on Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:12 pm

i do coll, the fact that i am a full petrus user (except on the true petrus LL)... i do coll all the time, sub 20 na po 11 pll only..., again, i agree with bonoan, do f2l in wickedly fast 9 seconds. i do mine at 13 sec pa kasi, fast recognition and executionof oll pll lang need mo...

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Re: COLL

Post by xyborgcubinots on Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:30 pm

posible....nakita ko full solve mo 17.xx pb mo coll un!!! lupet...control edges nga lang...

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Re: COLL

Post by Syalang on Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:32 pm

@jestoni

petrus? haha.. ilan ba nag petrus d2 sa PCA? may vid ka solves mo?

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Re: COLL

Post by jOms on Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:12 pm

ako dude.. COLL.. pero.. may alam akong 5 olls na hindi corner. un common.. sub 25 ako. pero may ibibilis pa.. kasi di ko pa memorize lahat ng pll.. ung mga g perms..

pwede naman siguro.. pero un nga, mahirap.. ang kailangan lang jan kung COLL ka.. make sure na ung ginagamit mo na algorithms eh ung most efficient at easy to execute talaga.. un din cross mo..

gamit ko, pag bar, F R U R' U F'
pag naman parang letter L, Fw R U R' U Fw'

para sakin, yan ang pinaka efficient..
ewan ko lang senyo.. nga pala.. 3 months na ko nag cucube

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Re: COLL

Post by mansilla on Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:39 pm

haha
salamat po sa mga ng comment d2...
after i post this topic, nag sub 25 nko Very Happy
salamat po sa inio Very Happy

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Re: COLL

Post by DevilMayCry on Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:52 pm

f2l of mine is 16 secs

pag ako ay nagbelow 13 secs ang f2l, laging may pop

COLL
I don't know that pero sub 20 na ako
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Re: COLL

Post by jOms on Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:21 pm

Guys.. i don't wanna make a new thread pero...
post nalang ako dito
is there such a thing na intuitive zb-f2l?

ung may partial edge control.. may tutorials ba nun?

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Re: COLL

Post by ert_anjo on Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:35 pm

guys speaking of edge control or cross agad pgkatapos ng f2l,

try this link,

http://cubefreak.net/speedcubing_misc.html

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Re: COLL

Post by jestoni143 on Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:43 pm

Syalang wrote:@jestoni

petrus? haha.. ilan ba nag petrus d2 sa PCA? may vid ka solves mo?

hindi ko alam kung ilan kaming petrus user dito sa palawan.. pero si omi ata petrus user, kasi nga sya ang madalas magreply sa thread ko. anyway, sige gawa ako ng vid ko, wala pa kasi akong pambili ng webcam para sa pc ko at wala akong net sa bahay... up ko lang pag nakagawa ako...

nga pala, bakit ka pala natawa nung tinanung kung petrus? Question

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Re: COLL

Post by xyborgcubinots on Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:43 pm

zb intuitive??? pede natry ko minsan sa solve ko....parang mgls nga eh... wala na ako OLL...kapag ganun ung lumalabas na case sa akin sub15 me...single solve Very Happy

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Re: COLL

Post by Rikimaru the Assassin on Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:13 pm

I made sub 18 averages with just the two basic cross-making OLL's (The basics every cube solver knows) and 7 COLL's. With hard work just completing PLL's and all the COLL's may lead you to as much as sub 16. The only advantage of course, is that you may have lesser time for the LL with more memorized OLL's.

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