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Post by pajodaep Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:07 pm

Is it possible to achieve a sub-20 average with a lubricated and sanded toysRus rubik's cube??

It's just that i haven't held nor played with a diy yet so i can't know if my sanded cube is smooth enough to be comparable to a diy and if it is possible for me to achieve a sub-20 average with that cube.

Are there any sub-20 cubers here who are not using the diy???
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Post by MetaboringJohnCañares Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:25 pm

Tell Yu Nakajima, Toby Mao, they don't use DIY's yet they're sub20. I only achieved sub22 with my non-DIY cube without lubrication. So its a high probability that you can get a sub20 with that.
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Post by pajodaep Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:03 pm

hehe... this afternoon during the U.P. cubers meet, i was able to play with a diy for the first time (thanks to neil). and i think i was faster by only 2 to 3 seconds on the average using the diy...

hehe, neil was really fast. he kept beating me on the speed challenge... hehe...
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Post by van21691 Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:08 pm

sub 15 can also be acheive if you try
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Post by Zeinest815 Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:18 pm

hehe. ulitin natin ang up cube meet pajo. hehehe. asteeeg. let's get noticed and inspire others. (hindi kaya lalo silang maintimidate)
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Post by punzki Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:16 am

Having a good, loose, smooth cube will definitely help your times, whether it's a DIY or just a regular well-lubricated cube. My time improved by 5 seconds on average simply by using a well-lubed cube.

You can only go as fast as your hands go, and as fast as your cube will allow. So even if you have a fast cube, you must be able to maximize it by going faster before the cube's full potential will be realized. Parang nag-drive ka ng sports car during rush hour in Metro Manila, sobrang useless dahil sa traffic; you'll only truly get your money's worth when you're driving while everyone else is asleep. Very Happy
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Post by benjodcubist Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:39 pm

It is very possible. There is a very simple way to determine the lower limit of solving time given the ff:

1. The cuber (of course)
2. The cube (any condition)

This is called a 'pre-solve'. If u really wana investigate deeply about your time and how to improve it (unlike me lolz) I suggest u give some attention to it.

Here's how it works. Generate a given scramble and solve the same scramble over and over again using your method until u get the optimal or near-optimal steps. That way u have near-perfect look-ahead and therefore near-zero delays. There u see your limit for any given cube.

THEORETICALLY YOURS,
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Post by n6i1c9o Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:45 pm

sounds interesting.... ang alam ko ganun ang ginagawa ng mga ibang cubers kaya mabibilis sila... masubukan nga... Very Happy
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Post by punzki Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:18 am

I like your idea, Benjo. I should give that a try to get my "theoretical" fast time. Thanks for the tip!
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Post by jerjero Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:02 am

remember toby mao and shotaro makisumi is not used to DIY cubes way back b4 i don't know now.. yet they achieved times of 12s 13s so it is really possible
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Post by jerjero Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:06 am

tip lng din gumawa kau ng memorized scramble nyo tpos gawin nyo ng gawin that way u can test your speed.... and know if u r really improving
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Post by jerjero Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:09 am

shorter algorithms + fast fingers + fast recognition..gets u to sub 20
shorter algos= www.cubestation.co.uk or www.solvethecube.co.uk or www.cubefraeak.net

fast fingers=practice 200%
fast recognition=300% practice..

tpos........................
dedication= sub 20 average
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Post by pajodaep Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:17 am

i never bothered to look at www.cubestation.co.uk until now. gee thanks. ngayon ko lang kasi nalaman na there are techniques na pwede aralin to get faster at the cross. i thought na puro intuition lang talaga yun, and experience lang ang kailangan to master the cross.

for that, aaralin ko yun. mabagal pa kasi ako sa cross.
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Post by hopelessvain Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:33 pm

i average 4 seconds in making the cross.
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Post by pajodaep Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:42 pm

ako rin mga 4 to 5 seconds sa cross.
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