help po sa cross making
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help po sa cross making
ang bagal ko talga sa cross.. nagpapause pa ako...
paano po ba ung mabilis na paggawa ng cross?? tska ano po ung Extended Cross?
paano po ba ung mabilis na paggawa ng cross?? tska ano po ung Extended Cross?
n6i1c9o- 2x2x2
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Re: help po sa cross making
according to mat, "an extended cross is when you make the cross and one f2l slot all at once. its doing a 2x2x2 block plus 3 cross edges at the same time."
di ko pa kaya ang extended cross. only experienced cubers like mat and jb i think can do the extended cross. it requires a hell lot of preinspection and recognition ability.
for starters like me, i think it's okay to prepare at most 3 blocks lang muna for the cross. ako, on the average, hanggang 3 blocks lang talaga ang limit ko sa paggawa ng cross without thinking anymore. (when lucky, i get to insert all 4) then, while inserting the 3 blocks for the cross, look for the 4th block for the cross. then plan for the first edge-corner pair. good recognition really helps if we want to achieve sub-20. and i'm working hard on it right now. ;p
di ko pa kaya ang extended cross. only experienced cubers like mat and jb i think can do the extended cross. it requires a hell lot of preinspection and recognition ability.
for starters like me, i think it's okay to prepare at most 3 blocks lang muna for the cross. ako, on the average, hanggang 3 blocks lang talaga ang limit ko sa paggawa ng cross without thinking anymore. (when lucky, i get to insert all 4) then, while inserting the 3 blocks for the cross, look for the 4th block for the cross. then plan for the first edge-corner pair. good recognition really helps if we want to achieve sub-20. and i'm working hard on it right now. ;p
pajodaep- 3x3x3
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Re: help po sa cross making
you got a point. i need to improve my cross making and F2L too.... ang slow ko pa... 15 to 20 secs ko nabubuo F2L.... gotta work hard for it.
btw, thanks for the info about extended cross. parang ang hirap gawin nun ah.. hahaha "Cross na may isang F2L slot all at once".
pero parang ang sarap aralin kasi pag nalaman mo na ung sikreto nung move na un, ang bilis mo ng matatapos ung cube.. hehe
btw, thanks for the info about extended cross. parang ang hirap gawin nun ah.. hahaha "Cross na may isang F2L slot all at once".
pero parang ang sarap aralin kasi pag nalaman mo na ung sikreto nung move na un, ang bilis mo ng matatapos ung cube.. hehe
n6i1c9o- 2x2x2
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Re: help po sa cross making
hehe!!!
onisgam0324- 3x3x3
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Re: help po sa cross making
ako ang bagal ko din sa cross..
thyng- 2x2x2
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ako nga rin, yan ang pinag aaralan ko ngaun ung cross ko, bgal kc eh hehe!!!
onisgam0324- 3x3x3
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Re: help po sa cross making
sir onis pano ka mgarrange ng cross nasa ibabaw or ilalim? ano ba best hehe..
thyng- 2x2x2
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Re: help po sa cross making
you should be familiar w/ your color scheme.
you should limit your moves up to 8 moves max for the cross.
its always possible to do the cross in 8 moves or less.
solving the cross from the side or bottom would be the best.
you should limit your moves up to 8 moves max for the cross.
its always possible to do the cross in 8 moves or less.
solving the cross from the side or bottom would be the best.
craxmile- 2x2x2
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Re: help po sa cross making
i do bottom.. just break the top cross habit it takes a very long time to shift and see f2l pairs when turning ur cube upside down..
jerjero- 2x2x2
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Re: help po sa cross making
my cross averages about 2 to 3 seconds... yep craxmile made an excellent point there color scheme familiarity gets u to fast cross making...
jerjero- 2x2x2
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Re: help po sa cross making
I see, ok I'll try doin it at the bottom..
thyng- 2x2x2
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Re: help po sa cross making
mas maganda ba kung sa bottom ka bubuo ng cross? kc ako sa left side eh...
n6i1c9o- 2x2x2
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Re: help po sa cross making
pareho lang yan. same lang ang time ko sa pagsolve ng cube na nasa bottom at nasa left ang cross at f2l. medyo tatagilid lang ang ulo mo pag sa left and cross kasi karamihan sa mga pieces na hinahanap mo ay nasa right.
pajodaep- 3x3x3
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Re: help po sa cross making
pareho lang yan. same lang ang time ko sa pagsolve ng cube na nasa bottom at nasa left ang cross at f2l. medyo tatagilid lang ang ulo mo pag sa left ang cross kasi karamihan sa mga pieces na hinahanap mo ay nasa right.
pajodaep- 3x3x3
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Re: help po sa cross making
my advice is to study how the cross pieces move around so you can find the fastest way to execute the cross. and i also suggest when practicing, you should try doing your cross without looking at the cube or eyes closed (helps your speed and memorization and execution of cross)
AND "making the cross is an art form"
haha.
AND "making the cross is an art form"
haha.
Re: help po sa cross making
thanks for the advice
n6i1c9o- 2x2x2
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Re: help po sa cross making
i need to practice...and practice....and practice hehe!!!!
onisgam0324- 3x3x3
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Re: help po sa cross making
onisgam0324 wrote:i need to practice...and practice....and practice hehe!!!!
practice makes perfect!!
n6i1c9o- 2x2x2
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Re: help po sa cross making
oh yep. practice lang talaga ang kailangan. normal din na ma-stuck tayo sa ilang averages for a while pero eventually malalampasan din natin yun through practice.
pajodaep- 3x3x3
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Re: help po sa cross making
i'm stucked at sub24. though my cross takes me for 6 secs last month. but it is now down to 4 secs. experience is your best teacher. sanayan lng yn. tama yung mgpractice na nakapikit while making a cross. mg-iimprove tlg after doing that. practice lng tlg ang katapat nyan lahat.
my next step is making my f2ls fast. bumabagal xe ako dahil sa mahirap na recognition.
my next step is making my f2ls fast. bumabagal xe ako dahil sa mahirap na recognition.
hopelessvain- 2x2x2
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Re: help po sa cross making
need to improve my cross making n F2Ls too.. stuck parin ako at sub30... practice practice practice! try n try again..
n6i1c9o- 2x2x2
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Re: help po sa cross making
yup. that's the attitude!
hopelessvain- 2x2x2
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